"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).
Join the discussion below, or Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com.
Since: Dec 11
#75978 Jan 19, 2013
#75979 Jan 19, 2013
If you don't want to watch the short movie version of this true story, just type in " The Battle of Athens Tenn 1946 - YouTube" and several selections will be available.
Again, this is a true story most of us have never heard of it. Perhaps not even born yet in 1946.
Now the second amendment should be a little clearer to everyone.
Well worth the time.
The Battle of Athens: Restoring the Rule of Law
Uploaded on Dec 27, 2011
..."The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.
Specific materials in this video are copyrighted and fall into 17 U.S.C.§ 106 and 17 U.S.C.§ 106A, The Fair Use of a Copyrighted Work.
"Those who dislike this video are freedom hating socialist and fascist zombies..."
Since: Dec 11
#75980 Jan 19, 2013
I have to start another argument here,
I love the link...but I am a 1911 kinda guy.
My first Colt was a .32 1903 it was light and a great concealed carry weapon now my WOC is a 1911 .45 ACP. Glock gives you 14 rounds...so? I can carry extra mags and change them in less than 2 seconds.
#75982 Jan 19, 2013
No argument, Ari. Point is...
"A well regulated militia."
Same as those in the clip about Athens, Tn. You gotta love those redneck WW2 vets.
Today we arrest children with squirt guns.
Since: Dec 11
#75990 Jan 20, 2013
...and a POTUS who has yet to prove he is LEGIT telling US we need to prove we are to own our guns?
Only in America, you just can't make this $#IT up!
Since: Dec 11
#75994 Jan 20, 2013
Time to charge batteries...
Good night, Sloopy!
#76004 Jan 20, 2013
I hope you didn't take me wrong! The only good communist is a dead one!
Hope I don't go to jail for this comment! These days in this country, who knows!
#76009 Jan 20, 2013
LMAO!! At 84 my mommy don't need Red Bull, cougars find their own feist. She is very feisty and still on the prowl.
#76010 Jan 20, 2013
wtf, looks like your posts were removed from the thread. I wonder why!
#76011 Jan 20, 2013
Amen !!!... ;0)
#76013 Jan 20, 2013
Seems what you and your ilk "think" has turned the corner and nobody gives a damn anymore. Your kind has lied and stole and cheated and covered up and used the Bush crutch and the race card to the point of no return. You libs got comfortable with your lies and tricks working to convince the sheep that you were doing all these things for them. Sort of like when Obama explained in his power-grab speech the other day that politicians should stop making decisions/laws based on the NRA lobbyist supporting them. He said the childrens safety should come first. Why didn't Obama include a power-grab on the violent movies and videos and games that our children are subjected to each and every day? Because Hollywood spent millions and millions of dollars on Obama's campaigns. They even made a little ad with some big stars telling their little monsters to support Obama's power-grab on guns from law abiding citizens. Every one of those big stars made millions last year from violent movies and every one of them belong to a union that made billions off of those violent movies. Not a peep from the president or Biden about that issue. Why not? Why, if you are such an authority on facts and claim Fox News lies, do you never question any of the many hypocrisies that surround your president and his ilk?
Newsflash...people are tired of your lies and accusations and your attempt to consistently throw inaccurate information out and then hide accurate facts about your ilk. Fox News has always outed you democrat thieves and that's why you and your prez are constantly trying to discredit them.
I read an article on yahoo that stated the NRA announced that 20,000 people had messaged them and told them they would be protesting the latest gun-grab restrictions from Obama's Executive Order power play. In the next sentence the article stated that hundreds of people from Ky to Pa had protested locally. The lame-stream media planted the seed in your head that only a few hundred people bothered to protest which is no big deal. Your kind bought that shit hook, line and sinker. Fox news showed videos of those protests and I hate to rain on your liars parade but there were more than just a few hundred people standing up for their rights. Did any of the media that Obama has carried in his back pocket for the last 4 years even attempt to report the truth? Nope. None of them. Why not? They also think of themselves as Hollywood stars that Obama owes much to for supporting his lies and spreading them.
We understand why you obsess about Fox News. It makes lying and planting your seeds of hypocrisy so much harder for you.
#76014 Jan 20, 2013
Yes be careful. Just as doctors are now required by Obamacare law to interrogate you to see if you own a gun so will the media outlets too. Obama and Soros own those outlets. Those outlets own your words that you put on here.
#76015 Jan 20, 2013
You are actually using a CNN poll as your "proof" of something? Now that is funny!
#76016 Jan 20, 2013
This post deserves to be bumped to the top so the democrats/progressives can read it again.
#76017 Jan 20, 2013
Even among those who called themselves “very liberal,” only 59 percent approve of the direction the nation is moving. At the opposite end of the scale, 90 percent of the “very conservative” said the nation is going down the wrong path.
Only 45 percent of Americans believe the nation’s best days still are ahead. Fifty-five percent said they are long gone.
“I cannot remember a time when America was this despondent. Our survey shows 55 percent of American adults believe America’s best days are now behind us, while just 45 percent said they think the brightest days are still ahead,” said Wenzel.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/obama-leading-nati...
#76018 Jan 20, 2013
Comment from above link ... ;0)
johnkohlenberg Seniorsquadldr • 7 hours ago −
Obama would not even make good fertilizer. Anything he has to do with definetely dies. Capitalism, Employment, Ungarded borders, Our credit rating, Our constitution, and any good laws. Do I need to say more.
#76019 Jan 20, 2013
Evidence and proof that the Obama's knew what their agenda would be long before they took advantage of the latest crisis...Michelle Obama lobbying Congress to put a provision in the first job stimulus bill that stated the government and lawyers and social workers and politicians can discuss patient/doctor info electronically (phone, fax, email, etc) Now we see the gungrab laws coming out to support that provision. Just ask New Yorkers. They were reamed recently by their democrat/socialist/progressive governor. Look out Chicago...you've got some fierce equally incompetent competition.
#76020 Jan 20, 2013
IS THIS MAN THE NEXT PRESIDENT?
Exclusive: Joseph Farah gets behind non-establishment GOP candidate for 2016
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/is-this-man-the-ne...
medic2003 JohnnyAngel Advocacy • 4 days ago −
Theres straight up Libertarian, and then there are Patriots. Rand Paul is a patriot. He is a conservative that believes in the Constitution, He is more of a Constitutionalist than Libertarian. His father is the same way.
Ill give you the drug issue for example, they neither one condone drug use but they dont think the Feds should control how it is legislated. They rightfully say it is a State matter. That isnt necessarily Libertarian that is just Constitutional.
Rand, like his father, would be an outstanding POTUS. I will support him with vigor.
#76022 Jan 20, 2013
Scooter Libby Took The Blame To Cover Bush, Cheney, Rove And The Leo Strauss Agenda: The Jig Is Up !
June 3, 1997 / http://tinyurl.com/6c3l
American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century.
We aim to change this. We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership.
Elliott Abrams- Gary Bauer- William J. Bennett -Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney -Eliot A. Cohen- Midge Decter- Paula Dobriansky -Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg -Francis Fukuyama -Frank Gaffney -Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan- Zalmay Khalilzad -I. Lewis Libby -Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle -Peter W. Rodman -Stephen P. Rosen -Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld -Vin Weber -George Weigel -Paul Wolfowitz
A Clean Break:
A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’ "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.
Bush reportedly wants to sodomize bin Laden
Speaking of George Bush, with whom Sharon developed a very close relationship, Uri Dan recalls that Sharon's delicacy made him reluctant to repeat what the president had told him when they discussed Osama bin Laden. Finally he relented. And here is what the leader of the Western world, valiant warrior in the battle of cultures, promised to do to bin Laden if he caught him: "I will screw him in the A$$!"
#76023 Jan 20, 2013
Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions of property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.,
The tone is familiar. Is it Clinton’s Anti-Terrorism Act of 1996?
Is it the Bush Patriot Act of 2001?
No. It is from Hitler’s 1933 speech calling for an Enabling Act for the protection of the People and the State after the catastrophic Reichstag fire that the Nazis had secretly lit.
Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
http://tinyurl.com/5tjkx May 19, 2003
Many neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz are disciples of a philosopher who believed that the elite should use deception, religious fervor and perpetual war to control the ignorant masses.
What would you do if you wanted to topple Saddam Hussein, but your intelligence agencies couldn't find the evidence to justify a war?
A follower of Leo Strauss may just hire the "right" kind of men to get the job done – people with the intellect, acuity, and, if necessary, the political commitment, polemical skills, and, above all, the imagination to find the evidence that career intelligence officers could not detect.
The "right" man for Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, suggests Seymour Hersh in his recent New Yorker article entitled 'Selective Intelligence,' was Abram Shulsky, director of the Office of Special Plans (OSP)– an agency created specifically to find the evidence of WMDs and/or links with Al Qaeda, piece it together, and clinch the case for the invasion of Iraq.
Like Wolfowitz, Shulsky is a student of an obscure German Jewish political philosopher named Leo Strauss who arrived in the United States in 1938. Strauss taught at several major universities, including Wolfowitz and Shulsky's alma mater, the University of Chicago, before his death in 1973.
Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neo-cons, and Iraq
Are the ideas of the conservative political philosopher Leo Strauss a shaping influence on the Bush administration’s world outlook? Danny Postel interviews Shadia Drury – a leading scholarly critic of Strauss – and asks her about the connection between Plato’s dialogues, secrets and lies, and the United States-led war in Iraq.
Danny Postel: The neo-conservative vision is commonly taken to be about spreading democracy and liberal values globally. And when Strauss is mentioned in the press, he is typically described as a great defender of liberal democracy against totalitarian tyranny. You’ve written, however, that Strauss had a “profound antipathy to both liberalism and democracy.”
Shadia Drury: The idea that Strauss was a great defender of liberal democracy is laughable. I suppose that Strauss’s disciples consider it a noble lie. Yet many in the media have been gullible enough to believe it.
How could an admirer of Plato and Nietzsche be a liberal democrat? The ancient philosophers whom Strauss most cherished believed that the unwashed masses were not fit for either truth or liberty, and that giving them these sublime treasures would be like throwing pearls before swine. In contrast to modern political thinkers, the ancients denied that there is any natural right to liberty. Human beings are born neither free nor equal. The natural human condition, they held, is not one of freedom, but of subordination – and in Strauss’s estimation they were right in thinking so.
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