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concerned

Elgin, TX

#1 Jun 12, 2011
I'm very concerned about the welfare of both the detainees and the deputy jailers of the Madison County Detention Center. The cells are over crowded and the jailers are under-staffed. I can only repeat what others have told me, therefore, if no one is going to take a stand for their rights, then I will.
The new Jailer has done countless wrongs towards everyone; he promised people jobs and current employees better hours for their votes, demoted employees before he even saw their performance and is cutting hours to force people to quit, nepotism, favoritism, and discrimination.
The Jailer has formed an unsafe and unpleasant environment for both employees and detainees at the jail.
I am a concerned individual standing for the citizens of Madison County.
honestaboutit

Richmond, KY

#2 Jun 12, 2011
I really didnt know all that was going on. I can speak on some of the things i do know. I am so glad that the new jailer started making appointments for the friends and family members visiting the detainees. It beats standing outside in the cold weather or burning up in the hot weather. Not to mention the rainy days. That is a positive note. And then to cut down on the phone calls, he had the new computer system approved. Those are just a couple of things that i have seen.Now on the other hand, i have heard about the overcrowdness. Well to minimize that i heard that he had said for the inmates that have already been sentence they should be sent on down to make more room in the jail. That is just hearsay though. However, that have been sending them down.Did you know that racism persist in there also?
honestaboutit

Richmond, KY

#3 Jun 12, 2011
The inmates notice how the guards respond also. the cells get shut down quite a bit. As far as the employees go, i notice they are much friendlier than what they use to be. They would generally had an attitude. But if you feel that strong on it, I suggest u go to the monthly meetings that the city has every month. Take one step at a time until u see results.
Jeff

Berea, KY

#4 Jun 12, 2011
Hell I make a couple calls and see if the can put some up at the Holiday inn untill there release! would that make you happy?
christian justice

Mchenry, IL

#5 Jun 12, 2011
they should all be buttraped

even those that couldn't pay court ordered child support

sodomize them all

criminals!!!!!!!!!!
exconvict

Richmond, KY

#6 Jun 12, 2011
the whole court and jail system sucks big hairy balls
exconvict

Richmond, KY

#7 Jun 12, 2011
the jailers will let you sit and rot the jailers are just as crooked as the inmates
Ky Fried Blues

Berea, KY

#8 Jun 13, 2011
the monkeys are running amok in the zoo!! It's a circus, man.
Wondering

Richmond, KY

#12 Jun 14, 2011
Did they fire one of the third shift deputy jailers? I heard that they did his last name is Clark I think.
unfair to the families

Richmond, KY

#13 Jun 14, 2011
I have a relative that is currently in a penitentiary and I have a big problem with things being unfair. Everyday they do count and at the same time and the inmates are put under lockdown. I travel 2 hrs each way to go visit and it takes security forever to search vehicles and you are often waiting more than an hour to get checked in. After that you can get in to visit but they have lockdown at that time and you have to wait another hour(sometimes longer) before count is done and they let the inmates visit. Visiting hrs are from 9am to 1:30 pm but I only get a 2 hr visit because of they crap they do. They should change the count/lockdown time to another time on days they have visitation.
How can they get away with being so unfair.
ummm

Richmond, KY

#14 Jun 14, 2011
I find it freaking hilarious that you people actually think criminals have it bad in this country.

Our country's inmates in local, state, and federal custody ALL have it made in comparison to their overseas counterparts. If this were anywhere but America, you'd be thanking God your criminal loved ones were even ALIVE from day to day, much less that you have an opportunity to see them from time to time... even if visits are an inconvenience to some (well shucks).

Unfair? Seriously?

Other, less touchy-feely nations have figured out that a bullet is a helluva lot cheaper than providing criminals with room, board, free medical, cable TV, educational and retraining opportunities, and a whole staff to guard/cater to criminals and their visitors.

I myself can't decide which way is better. Our way makes voters feel better about themselves, while their way would sure as hell be a better deterrent. I mean, if you knew you would likely be KILLED for being a criminal, you *might* just consider NOT being a criminal. Here, you get pampered to the point that people cry if they aren't pampered *enough* for Christ's Sake!

Sometimes a change of perspective is all it takes to see things aren't as terrible as you think they are.

LoL... Only in America.
good grief

Richmond, KY

#15 Jun 14, 2011
ummm wrote:
I find it freaking hilarious that you people actually think criminals have it bad in this country.
Our country's inmates in local, state, and federal custody ALL have it made in comparison to their overseas counterparts. If this were anywhere but America, you'd be thanking God your criminal loved ones were even ALIVE from day to day, much less that you have an opportunity to see them from time to time... even if visits are an inconvenience to some (well shucks).
Unfair? Seriously?
Other, less touchy-feely nations have figured out that a bullet is a helluva lot cheaper than providing criminals with room, board, free medical, cable TV, educational and retraining opportunities, and a whole staff to guard/cater to criminals and their visitors.
I myself can't decide which way is better. Our way makes voters feel better about themselves, while their way would sure as hell be a better deterrent. I mean, if you knew you would likely be KILLED for being a criminal, you *might* just consider NOT being a criminal. Here, you get pampered to the point that people cry if they aren't pampered *enough* for Christ's Sake!
Sometimes a change of perspective is all it takes to see things aren't as terrible as you think they are.
LoL... Only in America.
Which overseas countries are you comparing to us? America has one of the highest, it not the highest, rate of incarceration in the civilized countries so actually many of the people who are incarcerated in the USA wouldn't even be locked up in other countries. I don't think too many Americans want to compare the USA to those countries who routinely shoot their "criminals".
Uncommon Sense

Richmond, KY

#16 Jun 14, 2011
good grief wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think too many Americans want to compare the USA to those countries who routinely shoot their "criminals".
I'd venture to say that is among a host of reasons why our nation is an ever-worsening state of socio-economic decay, on the verge of collapsing under its own weight, after a mere 235 years in existence.

The strongest, longest lasting empires on earth have always been those that dealt the most harshly - among many other things - with crime, despite misplaced moral inhibitions and an overabundance of public sympathy. That is also the exact opposite of the Modern American approach to criminal justice.

Specifically, I was referring to nations in Eastern Europe and Asia, past and present, where I've had occasion to serve in or around in the military. That they have a more effective approach to dealing with crime is admirable in its results. However, it is not the perceived cruelty of these regimes that prevents them from being our global betters; it is merely in a lack of resources and economic potential. Were such a determined nation ever afforded our level of resources and resultant global influence, then watch out.

It's not as unlikely as you might think; some believe the process is well underway at the economic level.(Don't believe me? Find ten manufactured items in your home, and take note of what country they were made in).

Looking beyond our borders, and perhaps at a bit of world history, would grant people the perspective that this nation as a whole so desperately requires to survive another century... but I don't expect much to change for the better at this point, regardless. People are so deluded and infused with their own sense of rightness and entitlement that they cannot conceive of a world that won't coddle them, even in America's current, cushy version of imprisonment.

Meanwhile, I was merely offering a means by which some might view the privileges afforded here in a kinder light. Forgive me if I expected too much.
Search

San Diego, CA

#17 Jun 14, 2011
I read from a Google search where many jailers that abuse prisoners have been caught out and off duty at a later date and been beaten for their on duty actions. Some have even been killed.

I guess they thought they could be assholes toward people and all would be ok after the person gets out. But some people seem to sit quitely in jail and then at some future date settle the score.

It seems to me that the offenders would be happier if they did not get into trouble in the first place, but then a ball bat life lesson can sometimes change peoples attitudes.
wondering

Mckee, KY

#18 Jun 15, 2011
Does chris jones from berea work there? Drive a brown malibu? Thanks
Bill

Richmond, KY

#19 Jun 15, 2011
good grief wrote:
<quoted text>
Which overseas countries are you comparing to us? America has one of the highest, it not the highest, rate of incarceration in the civilized countries so actually many of the people who are incarcerated in the USA wouldn't even be locked up in other countries. I don't think too many Americans want to compare the USA to those countries who routinely shoot their "criminals".
You illiterate moron.
He wasn't speaking of the rate of incarceration, He was speaking of the conditions of incarceration.
And yes, the U.S. has a high rate of incarceration for two reasons...
1. The rate of recidivism amongst parolees and probates, and
2. The fact that the U.S. doesn't execute quickly, or in the same numbers as other countries...
And yes, the American "War on Drugs" has caused some of this, but in accounts for more of the recidivism than initial incarcerations.
Learn your facts, please.
unfair to the families

Richmond, KY

#22 Jun 15, 2011
ummm wrote:
I find it freaking hilarious that you people actually think criminals have it bad in this country.
Our country's inmates in local, state, and federal custody ALL have it made in comparison to their overseas counterparts. If this were anywhere but America, you'd be thanking God your criminal loved ones were even ALIVE from day to day, much less that you have an opportunity to see them from time to time... even if visits are an inconvenience to some (well shucks).
Unfair? Seriously?
Other, less touchy-feely nations have figured out that a bullet is a helluva lot cheaper than providing criminals with room, board, free medical, cable TV, educational and retraining opportunities, and a whole staff to guard/cater to criminals and their visitors.
I myself can't decide which way is better. Our way makes voters feel better about themselves, while their way would sure as hell be a better deterrent. I mean, if you knew you would likely be KILLED for being a criminal, you *might* just consider NOT being a criminal. Here, you get pampered to the point that people cry if they aren't pampered *enough* for Christ's Sake!
Sometimes a change of perspective is all it takes to see things aren't as terrible as you think they are.
LoL... Only in America.
I understand where you are coming from but my family member is not a rapist or a murderer. I would totally agree with harsh punishment in the US for these types of crimes. I think that if we hung a child rapist or a murderer out front of the courthouse for all to see, crime rates would change and people would quit doing these things. As for thinking these prisoners are pampered..where do you get that? Have you ever been inside a prison..not a jail, a prison? If you consider getting stripped searched every time someone comes to see you, having all of your human decency taken away from you, having to sleep with one eye open, missing out your children lives, being told what to do every second of the day, having guards that aren't fit mistreating you because they have power trip issues, and being looked at as a failure is a pampering feeling to you, then I hope you end up there so you know what its like.
Do you think if your mother/father/sister/brother were in this situation you would be saying the same thing? just shoot em? We visit to give them hope and let them know that people still care about and love them. There is nothing like being in a place full of strangers and being all alone and nothing you can do about it. Helpless is the only way you can feel.
Where you get that prison is a fairytale here in America I will never know but I can assure you it is not just painful for the prisoner, but their families as well.
ummm

Richmond, KY

#23 Jun 15, 2011
gatorcat wrote:
<quoted text>I might be whining now but when its all done i will laugh all the way to the bank.
Sure, you sound like a real winner :-|

No, I'll not be having any adverse run in with law enforcement, because unlike you I obey the law, have respect for the majority of law enforcement - and they for me, being that I'm a veteran. Many cops are also veterans, or serve doubly as Reservists or in the National Guard. And all that I have known are the best kind of people.

Despite what podunk fantasies you were raised on (and despite the few bad apples that get the most press) most cops are in fact trying to protect the general public and our rights by catching and incarcerating those who would violate those rights and do harm to the community... and they do so while being under-paid and under-appreciated, particularly by barely-literate rogues who simply don't know any better.

But you go ahead and blame the law for you being a criminal/ ex-con/ sympathizer, or whatever you are. Whatever bank you're laughing on your way to, I'm sure the real punchline is the probably your account balance.
Big Bubba

Richmond, KY

#24 Jun 15, 2011
gatorcat wrote:
<quoted text>You are clueless and i do not care what the the crime or time is even death row inmates get a shower every 24 hours.That is more that you will get at the maddison raddiosn.Just wait you time will come up like when you speed and you get that good ole boy cops that finds something in your backseat.It does happen so get off your high horse and think before you spew crap on this forum.I bet you are a guard that wishes he was a cop and all you have is a yellow light to go on top your car.I might be whining now but when its all done i will laugh all the way to the bank.
nobody gives a sht about your lawyer or you laughing all way to the bank. I just want them to throw your ass back in here, so i can get at you again boy.
ummm

Richmond, KY

#25 Jun 15, 2011
unfair to the families wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand where you are coming from but my family member is not a rapist or a murderer. I would totally agree with harsh punishment in the US for these types of crimes. I think that if we hung a child rapist or a murderer out front of the courthouse for all to see, crime rates would change and people would quit doing these things. As for thinking these prisoners are pampered..where do you get that? Have you ever been inside a prison..not a jail, a prison? If you consider getting stripped searched every time someone comes to see you, having all of your human decency taken away from you, having to sleep with one eye open, missing out your children lives, being told what to do every second of the day, having guards that aren't fit mistreating you because they have power trip issues, and being looked at as a failure is a pampering feeling to you, then I hope you end up there so you know what its like.
Do you think if your mother/father/sister/brother were in this situation you would be saying the same thing? just shoot em? We visit to give them hope and let them know that people still care about and love them. There is nothing like being in a place full of strangers and being all alone and nothing you can do about it. Helpless is the only way you can feel.
Where you get that prison is a fairytale here in America I will never know but I can assure you it is not just painful for the prisoner, but their families as well.
I'm sure it is a very unpleasant experience. Then again, I do not think it is meant to be all that pleasant.

Nevertheless, I know for an absolute fact that "guests of the state" in a medium-security correctional facility are afforded 3 meals a day, free medical care, and (if they behave and aren't on lockdown) worship services, ample yard time, the availability of cable television programming, a commissary where electronics, treats, and tobacco can be had for reasonable prices, high school equivalency classes, vocational training, and the list goes on.

I know this because I worked as a correctional officer at such a facility (for extremely poor pay, I might add) and while of course there were some officers that weren't models of behavior and fair treatment, all were constrained under penalty of dismissal to see to it that the health, safety, legal rights, basic needs, and state-funded privileges of the inmates were tended to. During my tenure, every inmate in my dorm knew that they would be treated with the same respect they treated me. And I was not an exception to some rule of abuse; the abusers were the exception, and what few were reported were disciplined if not ultimately terminated. I left for better money and a less depressing atmosphere, but many like me are there as we speak, taking great care to walk a thin line whilst doing the thankless job of taking care of these criminals... Each and every one having made the choice that put them in these so-called "terrible" conditions.

Prior to my relatively brief experience in corrections, I served in the military, and during the course of that service, spent time in nations where the free, law-abiding citizens therein don't have even a fraction of the rights and amenities enjoyed by our worst criminals. Most people have only the slightest idea, if any, of how bad things really could be, and are, once one leaves the illusion of entitlement and shelter of the Western World behind.

And yes, I've had family incarcerated. They, like me, had choices to make, and they made the wrong ones. I started down a similar path, but elected to take the drastic measure of turning away from bad influences and dead-end pursuits, joining the military and earning the perspective I now have, as well as the self-respect, discipline, qualifications that eventually afforded me an opportunity to thrive. Each of them had the same or better options, and opted to be criminals. And each have gotten/ are getting what they deserve.

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