planning/zoneing commission meeting

planning/zoneing commission meeting

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wow

Richmond, KY

#1 Jan 26, 2012
anyone know if the apt. complex on john lackey's property was brought before the commission tonight? if so, what happened?
Laura

Richmond, KY

#2 Jan 26, 2012
stopped by and talked to Laura tonight, and she says nothing will happen anytime soon, that no matter what the vote is, it will be tied up in court for a long time and after being a commissioner and then becoming Mayor, she will decide what to do about it.
RODEN

Richmond, KY

#3 Jan 26, 2012
The BIG BUTTED HAG will really love it when about 10-12 feet of her gas mart property gets taken to widen Barnes Mill Road to handle the extra traffic.
For Real

Richmond, KY

#4 Jan 26, 2012
Are you really this dense?
jj the jet plane

Richmond, KY

#5 Jan 26, 2012
Barnes Mill neighbor wrote:
When does this project go before Planning & Zoning?
As it presently stands, this project will come before the planning and zoning commission workshop on February 21, 2012 with a final hearing before P&Z on March 1, 2012.

I was told by an in the know city official that a gag order has been given to the Planning and Zoning commissioners. They are prohibited from talking about the project with anyone. Some say that this also extends to the the city commissioners.

That is pretty entertaining considering all of the City Fathers and city engineers have detailed knowledge of the project from the developer's point of view and many have been said to have approved it.
RODEN

Richmond, KY

#6 Jan 27, 2012
It does not pass the smell test.I detect a bunch of corruption here and there are 3 boxes, the soap box, the ballot box and finally the bullet box. These have kept this nation free for over 200 years yet a corrupt city gubmint wants to screw the citizens of Richmond again.
College Town

Richmond, KY

#7 Jan 27, 2012
We live in a college town folks and we all are crazy if we think the University is not gonna grow and there's not gonna be congestion and havock when traveling around the college.Of course I don't like it and I own a nice house on barnesmill off lancaster ave, but hell, I'll just travel in a different direction, not gonna lose any sleep here over this. Evety town with a college has this same problem.
interesting

Richmond, KY

#8 Jan 27, 2012
jj the jet plane wrote:
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As it presently stands, this project will come before the planning and zoning commission workshop on February 21, 2012 with a final hearing before P&Z on March 1, 2012.
I was told by an in the know city official that a gag order has been given to the Planning and Zoning commissioners. They are prohibited from talking about the project with anyone. Some say that this also extends to the the city commissioners.
That is pretty entertaining considering all of the City Fathers and city engineers have detailed knowledge of the project from the developer's point of view and many have been said to have approved it.
Who is the developer? That may explain some things.
It was voted down before

Russell, KY

#9 Jan 27, 2012
The problem with this is it has already gone before the planning and zoning and was voted down. We will see who is really backing the current administration if this is given a go ahead to be completed
Ask Roden

Richmond, KY

#10 Jan 27, 2012
The game changes, the rules are'nt the same when "Big Daddy Ed Worley" gets in the game. Ask Roden he's felt "Big Daddy Ed's" wrath before.
RODEN

Richmond, KY

#11 Jan 28, 2012
for "College Town" How much of your front yartd will be taken when Barnes Mill Road is widened to make it four lane due to all the new traffic? What will that do to your property value? Just asking.
College Town

Richmond, KY

#12 Jan 28, 2012
Well, with a nice updated roadway and sidewalks(which I don't have) might help my value, Ask me if I want this,NO, but I will be damn if I lose any sleep over it.
Think Again

Richmond, KY

#13 Jan 28, 2012
The college is not behind this. It is not a college project. However there is someone in the college who stands to have a financial gain if the project passes.

THINK - a complex this close to campus for hundreds of students is going to take money AWAY from the university because it will take students out of the dorms.

THINK - The university is not expecting a rise in enrollment as per the statement from President Whilock this week. This complex therefor will bring no NEW residents to Richmond. Current apartments owners and the college loose. Don't we have enough apartments sitting empty in Richmond already?

There are so many other issues with this. Traffic, safety, cost to the city for widening roads due to this increased traffic, loss of property values for Barnes Mill residents and so on. The ONLY people who would benefit from this project are the investors. It will not be a benefit to this community or to the University.
BarneyMiller

Richmond, KY

#14 Jan 28, 2012
[ "College Town" How much of your front yard will be taken when Barnes Mill Road is widened to make it four lane due to all the new traffic? What will that do to your property value? Just asking."

Here's my answer:
Front yards ought to be taken on Barnes Mill Road because there is no sidewalk on one side & the other side ends at Bob-0-Link. It is ridiculous planning that created the mess called Barnes Mill. Like it or not it is a connector road to the college & the city core. It should be improved like Tates Creek Road as a boulevard. Three lanes,(2 for traffic, 1 for turn) with nice sidewalks & landscaping all the way to the EKU By-Pass.
Such a plan would greatly IMPROVE property values in this 1950's era ill conceived subdivision.
Joe

Richmond, KY

#15 Jan 28, 2012
Less property + houses closer to street + more traffic = higher property values? Right....
Think Again

Richmond, KY

#16 Jan 28, 2012
BarneyMiller wrote:
[ "College Town" How much of your front yard will be taken when Barnes Mill Road is widened to make it four lane due to all the new traffic? What will that do to your property value? Just asking."
Here's my answer:
Front yards ought to be taken on Barnes Mill Road because there is no sidewalk on one side & the other side ends at Bob-0-Link. It is ridiculous planning that created the mess called Barnes Mill. Like it or not it is a connector road to the college & the city core. It should be improved like Tates Creek Road as a boulevard. Three lanes,(2 for traffic, 1 for turn) with nice sidewalks & landscaping all the way to the EKU By-Pass.
Such a plan would greatly IMPROVE property values in this 1950's era ill conceived subdivision.
An apartment complex for 600 students is in no way going to improve property values no matter how wide they make the road. Common sense please.
Go Ahead

Richmond, KY

#17 Jan 28, 2012
Think Again wrote:
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An apartment complex for 600 students is in no way going to improve property values no matter how wide they make the road. Common sense please.
Just go ahead and worry about this matter for the both of us, I got some living to do.
ProgressiveThink ing

Richmond, KY

#18 Jan 28, 2012
Joe wrote:
Less property + houses closer to street + more traffic = higher property values? Right....


Try this simple equation:

No sidewalks + blind curve + connector road = longtime coming for improvement
DownTowner

Richmond, KY

#19 Jan 28, 2012
Think Again wrote:
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An apartment complex for 600 students is in no way going to improve property values no matter how wide they make the road. Common sense please.
Who gives a hoot about property values in the Barnes Mill area? It is a 1950/1960's subdivision, built on the cheap without any planning that I can see. No sidewalks, no connector to Tates Creek or High Street. A mess of an architecturally insignificant cluster of homes.

I might feel sorry for the Barnes Mill neighborhood association if they did or said anything in the last 25 years other than scream "NOT IN MY BACKYARD!" Sorry, but this area & corridor has been in dire need of basic community planning & improvements. Any CONCERNED citizen (as in concerned about the welfare of the community as a whole) would have INSISTED that the sidewalk & blind curve problems be rectified. But no politician would touch the subject involving this area since any effort to encourage ANY change was met with the angry horde.

Alas, I suppose the horde is organizing again, screaming bloody murder, preparing to resist improvement, making lists to threaten the political zoning Gods, all in an attempt to keep their little corner of the world pristine & perfect in their eyes.
Think about it

Richmond, KY

#20 Jan 28, 2012
DownTowner wrote:
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Who gives a hoot about property values in the Barnes Mill area? It is a 1950/1960's subdivision, built on the cheap without any planning that I can see. No sidewalks, no connector to Tates Creek or High Street. A mess of an architecturally insignificant cluster of homes.
I might feel sorry for the Barnes Mill neighborhood association if they did or said anything in the last 25 years other than scream "NOT IN MY BACKYARD!" Sorry, but this area & corridor has been in dire need of basic community planning & improvements. Any CONCERNED citizen (as in concerned about the welfare of the community as a whole) would have INSISTED that the sidewalk & blind curve problems be rectified. But no politician would touch the subject involving this area since any effort to encourage ANY change was met with the angry horde.
Alas, I suppose the horde is organizing again, screaming bloody murder, preparing to resist improvement, making lists to threaten the political zoning Gods, all in an attempt to keep their little corner of the world pristine & perfect in their eyes.
The community needing sidewalks or a wider road is not a valid argument for building apartments for 600 students. If you want improvements, fight for that. This is a typical red herring...lets make the argument about something else so we can secretly get done what will line a few peoples pockets regardless if it is good for the community or not.

Give me an intelligent argument for this apartment complex?

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