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first baptist sucks

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#1 Jul 14, 2011
i went to the first baptist church on the bypass looking for help with a problem. i was passed of to one of the ministers who didn't believe my problem and he and his wife belittled me and made me feel like nothing everytime i talked to them. they made me feel like god couldn't love a person like me. it was horrible. i can't believe they allow their minsters to treat people like that.
what

Lexington, KY

#2 Jul 14, 2011
wtf thats the funniest thing ive ever heard
first baptist sucks

United States

#3 Jul 15, 2011
it was just horrible. where do ppl of god get off treating others that way?
reality check

Richmond, KY

#4 Jul 15, 2011
The ppl who have disappointed me and hurt me most are the people who consider themselves good christians, are active in church, etc. They turned out to be snobs and hypocrites and I was acting more Christian than them, even tho I was trying to figure out if there even was a god or not.

But to be fair some of the most loving and selfless people also have been Christian. I am just very disappointed and hurt and heartbroken at how I was treated at a certain small "loving" church which shall remain unnamed with the exception of 1 person there. I tried my best to be nice and fit in, but I could never get into their "clique" and there were very mean and cold towards me.

There are many hypocrites out there or Christians who don't know how to be Christian so don't be surprised when it happens. That's to be expected. It happened on more than one occasion to me so basically I expect to be treated better by atheists than christians at this point. I'm just telling it how it is. There are good and bad in every bucket so don't be surprised when you find then bad ones. Again, to be fair, some of the most loving and giving people who do more than their fair share to help others are great Christians, they are just harder to find in my experience. And you shouldn't blame the church, it's in ALL churches.
suggestion

United States

#5 Jul 15, 2011
Chhristians have a personal relationship with the lord. That (to me) means I can go directly to him for help. I do this by reading the bible and by reading and listening to ministers (in person on tape on tv on the radio) from denominations that I trust. If I set aside the first minutes of the day seeking. His help he does help and guide me. He does that by calming my soul and by leading me to read and study how to deal with what is causing me worry. When I get to a part that I don't understand I outline the passage. I pray. It works. He is always there. He will never leave you or forsake you. He will give you peace. The key is that you have to turn to him. You have to ask him to come into your life and your problem and ask him to help you. Daily turning to him is the only way out of a problem. Good people to read and listen to are charles stanley and billy graham. Jesus" teachings are things that are pure, inclusive. As you?ve heard a million times and it is true..jesus loves you and is waiting to help you. We are his children. He will never leave you or forsake you.
Member

Ironton, OH

#6 Jul 15, 2011
I'm sorry that you didn't have a good experience with the church. Please understand that a bad experience with 2 out of 1,000 or so people is not a good representation of the congregation. I hope and pray that you do find a church and ministers that can help you with your situation.

*many hugs and prayers*
first baptist sucks

United States

#7 Jul 15, 2011
Member wrote:
I'm sorry that you didn't have a good experience with the church. Please understand that a bad experience with 2 out of 1,000 or so people is not a good representation of the congregation. I hope and pray that you do find a church and ministers that can help you with your situation.
*many hugs and prayers*
I'm not talking about the congregation - I only went to the actual service once there and its not like the people there were rude to me or anything, but they just didn't make me feel welcome. What I am talking about is the minister Sam Newman. He and his wife were horrible towards me.The ministers and leaders of a church should be held to a higher standard than the church's members.And I have found a great church in berea, church on the rock. The pastor there has taken all kinds of time to help me.He is a true man of God.
Member

Ironton, OH

#8 Jul 15, 2011
first baptist sucks wrote:
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I'm not talking about the congregation - I only went to the actual service once there and its not like the people there were rude to me or anything, but they just didn't make me feel welcome. What I am talking about is the minister Sam Newman. He and his wife were horrible towards me.The ministers and leaders of a church should be held to a higher standard than the church's members.And I have found a great church in berea, church on the rock. The pastor there has taken all kinds of time to help me.He is a true man of God.
I'm very happy that you have found a church to fit your needs.=)
No disrespect intended

Richmond, KY

#9 Jul 15, 2011
If you only went to 1 service, where you were a stranger what did you want the congregation to do - throw you a party? For a lot of people, it takes time to get to know new people, even in churches and I think perhaps you are being overly sensitive and judgmental based on 1 true visit to that church considering you never went back and gave those church members a real chance.

I also am curious as to what it is you needed help with that you think a pastor who does not really know you could help with? Churches see people straggling in all the time, people who have never attended their services, who never look to a church unless they want someone to do something for them - providing them with money to pay their bills, provide them with groceries etc.

People who don't really NEED the help as they already get welfare, food stamps etc, but like free rides. Not saying you are one of those types, but the fact remains you were not a church member there, gave none of them time to know you but expected them to do something for you.

God helps those who help themselves.
suggestion

United States

#10 Jul 15, 2011
God helps those who help themselves. He also helps people who are overwhelmed and need help. God works through people and uses us to help rescue the perishing and care for the dying. Each of us hits a brick wall at least once in our lifetime...when we are at our wits end and don't know which way to turn. Simple Compassion in times of trouble can literally change the course of a life .. or a family.
No disrespect intended wrote:
If you only went to 1 service, where you were a stranger what did you want the congregation to do - throw you a party? For a lot of people, it takes time to get to know new people, even in churches and I think perhaps you are being overly sensitive and judgmental based on 1 true visit to that church considering you never went back and gave those church members a real chance.
I also am curious as to what it is you needed help with that you think a pastor who does not really know you could help with? Churches see people straggling in all the time, people who have never attended their services, who never look to a church unless they want someone to do something for them - providing them with money to pay their bills, provide them with groceries etc.
People who don't really NEED the help as they already get welfare, food stamps etc, but like free rides. Not saying you are one of those types, but the fact remains you were not a church member there, gave none of them time to know you but expected them to do something for you.
God helps those who help themselves.
funny

Tomball, TX

#11 Jul 15, 2011
Sometimes emergencies come up and ppl need help right away. I don't think it's right for a church, any church, to refuse help because they're not a member. I also don't think it's right for anyone in leadership of a church to be mean to someone seeking help. If they felt the person was trying to get a "free ride", simply tell them the church can't help. Don't be mean to them. I've seen both situations, it's hard to determine the difference sometimes but there's no excuse to treat anyone badly just for asking for help.
Joe

AOL

#12 Jul 15, 2011
If you will pay your tithe they mite help you but first you must pay tithe
first baptist sucks

United States

#13 Jul 15, 2011
No disrespect intended wrote:
If you only went to 1 service, where you were a stranger what did you want the congregation to do - throw you a party? For a lot of people, it takes time to get to know new people, even in churches and I think perhaps you are being overly sensitive and judgmental based on 1 true visit to that church considering you never went back and gave those church members a real chance.
I also am curious as to what it is you needed help with that you think a pastor who does not really know you could help with? Churches see people straggling in all the time, people who have never attended their services, who never look to a church unless they want someone to do something for them - providing them with money to pay their bills, provide them with groceries etc.
People who don't really NEED the help as they already get welfare, food stamps etc, but like free rides. Not saying you are one of those types, but the fact remains you were not a church member there, gave none of them time to know you but expected them to do something for you.
God helps those who help themselves.
i'm not concerned with the way the congregation treated me. the minister Sam and i had been talking for about 3 weeks prior to me coming to the service so he did know me and he knew about my problem. i didn't come into that church looking for a hand out i came in looking for help because i had been sexually assulted and was having a really difficult time dealing with that and i thought that god thru a minister might be able to help. i went to him looking for advice and was treated like crap. you should automatically assume that ppl just come to church to get help with paying bills - its very rude and demeaning of you
No disrespect intended

Richmond, KY

#14 Jul 15, 2011
first baptist sucks wrote:
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i'm not concerned with the way the congregation treated me. the minister Sam and i had been talking for about 3 weeks prior to me coming to the service so he did know me and he knew about my problem. i didn't come into that church looking for a hand out i came in looking for help because i had been sexually assulted and was having a really difficult time dealing with that and i thought that god thru a minister might be able to help. i went to him looking for advice and was treated like crap. you should automatically assume that ppl just come to church to get help with paying bills - its very rude and demeaning of you
No more rude than blaming an entire church and it's people for your problems. If you look closely at what I had said, I pointed out I was NOT saying that you were one of those types.

I'm sorry you were raped but I think at this point in time you are placing your anger and hurt at all the wrong people. I've been through the exact same thing as you, but I didn't lash out at churches or their pastor. I knew my anger was at the one who had hurt me. I also realize it's easy to become overly sensitive to what people say and do after such a traumatic experience. I saw your other post about Bluegrass Rape Crisis Center, and with no disrespect intended, think that councilor was right, you do need more help than a phone call can give. Seek help from an actual therapist in getting past your issues, before your issues become too much to bear.
irst baptist suks

United States

#15 Jul 15, 2011
No disrespect intended wrote:
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No more rude than blaming an entire church and it's people for your problems. If you look closely at what I had said, I pointed out I was NOT saying that you were one of those types.
I'm sorry you were raped but I think at this point in time you are placing your anger and hurt at all the wrong people. I've been through the exact same thing as you, but I didn't lash out at churches or their pastor. I knew my anger was at the one who had hurt me. I also realize it's easy to become overly sensitive to what people say and do after such a traumatic experience. I saw your other post about Bluegrass Rape Crisis Center, and with no disrespect intended, think that councilor was right, you do need more help than a phone call can give. Seek help from an actual therapist in getting past your issues, before your issues become too much to bear.
i haven't blamed anyone at that church for my problems - i'm simply saying they suck for not being there to help someone in need! i emailed the actual pastor there and he said he'd look into the situation. but any minister thats going to make it feel like it was your fault for being rapped has no place in the church. i'm not lashing out at anyone - i'm just saying how i was treated. and i did look closely at what you said and no you didn't directly accuse me of looking for a hand out you just assumed anyone going to a church for help was looking for one and that is rude
reality check

Richmond, KY

#16 Jul 16, 2011
To be fair, if you say a certain church sucks you have to say they all suck because most are pretty much the same. There are some good there are some bad. There are non caring, rude, hypocrites that go for whatever reason, maybe because their family goes and there's the really true god fearing loving people. There is no perfect church. And if he treated you like crap maybe you should have wrote him a letter talking about it instead of bashing his name on the internet. We don't know his side of the story, maybe in his opinion he tried to help.
first baptist sucks

United States

#17 Jul 16, 2011
like i said i emailed the pastor and shared my concerns so hopefully he'll fix the problem. anyway not all churchs suck - i found a great church in berea - church on the rock - pastor mark has been a great help to me
Gossip4Sinners

Richmond, KY

#18 Jul 16, 2011
first baptist sucks wrote:
like i said i emailed the pastor and shared my concerns so hopefully he'll fix the problem. anyway not all churchs suck - i found a great church in berea - church on the rock - pastor mark has been a great help to me
Ask your new preacher what the bible says about gossiping on a website like topix against preachers/pastors/ministers/pr iests. They are God's anointed ones. Ask him about what he thinks of a member of his flock coming onto this hate site to spew hatred about a fellow minister. You are really rude to be doing such a thing!
ephesians

Ironton, OH

#19 Jul 16, 2011
Gossip4Sinners wrote:
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Ask your new preacher what the bible says about gossiping on a website like topix against preachers/pastors/ministers/pr iests. They are God's anointed ones. Ask him about what he thinks of a member of his flock coming onto this hate site to spew hatred about a fellow minister. You are really rude to be doing such a thing!
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. Ephesians 4:29

I think what bothers me the most is the title of the thread. The OP is stating that a whole church 'sucks' due to the actions of 2 people. But then stated that she/he doesn't have a problem with the congregation.....
curious

United States

#20 Jul 16, 2011
ephesians wrote:
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Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. Ephesians 4:29
I think what bothers me the most is the title of the thread. The OP is stating that a whole church 'sucks' due to the actions of 2 people. But then stated that she/he doesn't have a problem with the congregation.....
maybe the title of the thread isn't great. whoever wrote it was prob just frustrated. but, i don't blame them would you not too be frustrated if you went to a minister for help just to be treated like crap? u say she has a problem with just a couple of ppl in the chruch which sounds like its the case, but ministers and their wives , like it or not, are held to a higher standard. if she's telling the truth i don't really think its gossip. its getting the word out so his congregation knows whats this minister is like. and i've gone to church on the rock before, i agree with her pastor mark is a great preacher, he may not like her coming on here but i know he expects preachers or ministers to rise up to that higher standard and help someone in need!i agree with her the way she was treated sucks!if her pastor has a problem with her being on here then i'm sure he'll tell her about ifhe finds out, but if your so against gossip sites what are you doing on here, gossip4sinners? what she's doing is just as bad as what your doing. what your doing gossip is prob worse cause on top of gossip your judging someone. everyone should just get off this site and let the pastor of first baptist handle the situation. first baptist sucks, u have my prayers while you deal with a difficult time in your life.

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