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BS IS Called

Dallas, TX

#17837 Jul 11, 2013
BS IS Called wrote:
Obamacare disaster getting worse.
Almost everything this administration does is a lie, or the utmost in incompetence.
For the last several months, we've heard the White House repeatedly pledge to Congress and the American people that the president's Affordable Care Act will be ready on schedule," Brady, the subcommittee chair, said in his opening statement. "In fact, Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently insisted before this very committee that the White House would not miss another Obamacare deadline. Not one, not again.
For the clueless, gutless, and uneducated "judges" out there, please explain your ignorant judgements, if you can. While you're at it, tell me where lower and middle income workers are going to get the money to buy health insurance, if you can. Tell me why the individual mandate was not postponed also, if you can.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17838 Jul 11, 2013
I just finished reading an article by Jaun Williams. I usually do not agree with almost anything that man says. This time he actually wrote a insightful and well thought out article on the Zimmerman trial. It is fair to say that he is not happy with our news media.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/11/whi...

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#17839 Jul 11, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
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There is no hope for you.
Absolutley correct. IO has lost the debate. His continual diatribes are nothing more than a smokescreen to mask his defeat to other libroids. You could stay off this thread for a month, come back, and IO will still be touting the same old thing.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17840 Jul 11, 2013
Gee, we are running out of oil. What are we to do?

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2013/07/10/texas-oil-...
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17841 Jul 11, 2013
BS IS Called wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Tell me why the individual mandate was not postponed also, if you can.
Countdown: 175 Days Until the End of Job Lock in America
Posted: 07/09/2013 9:57 am
Wendell Potter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendell-potter/...

The Obama administration's decision to postpone for a year the requirement that large employers offer health insurance to their workers has been characterized by pundits on the left as a capitulation to big business and on the right as the latest evidence that Obamacare isn't working.

Actually, it's neither, although the lefties have reason to be annoyed. Even so, I'm willing to cut the administration some slack on this one. The health care reform bill passed by Congress made implementation of the employer mandate unnecessarily complicated, for both employers and the administration, as former Obama health policy aide Ezekiel Emmanuel pointed out in a recent New York Times column. The House version of the reform bill, which would have required employers with 50 or more workers to contribute a portion of their payroll to covering their employees, would have been less challenging to implement than the Senate version that became law, which requires companies to offer coverage to employees who work 30 hours or more a week.

...According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 98 percent of companies with 200 or more workers provide coverage, and 94 percent of those with 50-199 workers do. This means that the part of the reform law the administration is postponing until 2015 -- the requirement that employers with 50 or more workers offer coverage -- affects only a very small percentage of companies and between 1 million and 1.5 million people.

While it's unfortunate those folks will have to wait an extra year before their employers offer subsidized coverage, it doesn't mean that they will necessarily be uninsured. That's because of other, more important provisions of the Affordable Care Act that are still scheduled to go into effect January 1, 2014.

...Another important provision set for January 1 will prohibit insurers from charging people in their 40s, 50s and 60s more than three times as much as people in their 20s and 30s.

...In addition, in less than three months, people who can't get coverage through their workplace can shop for it in a way that finally makes sense. They'll be able to buy it on the online marketplaces that every state and the District of Columbia must have up and running on Oct. 1.

...Also gone forever on January 1 will be an obstacle unique to America in the developed world -- job lock. An untold number of Americans for all practical purposes are indentured servants in large corporations, locked into jobs they don't like but won't dare quit because of their employer-subsidized health coverage.

...The postponement of the so-called employer mandate, which won't affect many employers in the first place, will not delay the end of job lock or the implementation of the long-awaited consumer protections that will go into effect in a few months. If it did, we'd have reason to march on the White House. It doesn't. So let's chill.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17842 Jul 11, 2013
BS IS Called wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...While you're at it, tell me where lower and middle income workers are going to get the money to buy health insurance, if you can
Why No One Should Lose Sleep Because Big Insurers Are Taking a Pass on Exchanges
Posted: 07/02/2013 10:45 am
Wendell Potter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendell-potter/...

...Some critics of the reform law are suggesting that if the big companies aren't willing to sell policies on all the exchanges, Obamacare is somehow fatally flawed and will surely fail to live up to the promise of lower premiums through more robust competition among insurers.

But I think we'll all be just as well off if the big companies stay out of the individual and small group market, which the exchanges are designed to serve. Those companies have overhead costs and are under constant pressure from their shareholders and Wall Street financial analysts to spend as little of their premium revenue paying claims as the law will allow.

That means most of those who are selling policies to individuals and small businesses will primarily be nonprofit companies, including the new co-op health plans that have received start-up loans from the federal government. Without the need to price their policies to cover a substantial profit and pay executives millions of dollars every year, the nonprofits should be able to sell coverage that is more affordable.
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A GOP Idea That's Part of Obamacare Showing Signs of Working as Planned
Posted: 05/13/2013 3:34 pm
Wendell Potter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendell-potter/...

...While it's possible that some people will have to pay more -- especially those with low-benefit, high-deductible plans that are soon to be abolished -- most folks who have to buy coverage without an employer's help will likely pay less, thanks to income-based tax credits that will be available for the first time. As the Oregonian noted, at least half the people who buy coverage on the state's exchange will qualify for a tax credit. And they'll be able to determine quickly how much the tax credit will reduce their premiums simply by providing income information on the exchange website.

Americans in every state can look forward to these GOP-inspired consumer benefits and protections and the very real possibility of lower premiums, assuming ObamaCare goes forward. Which, of course, it won't if House Republicans' 40th attempt to repeal ObamaCare does indeed prove to be the charm.
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It's CEO Pay Shock, Not Premium Rate Shock, That We Should Be Outraged About
Posted: 04/15/2013 11:45 am
Wendell Potter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendell-potter/...

...Policies will have to provide decent coverage for hospitalization and other "essential benefits," and the annual and lifetime caps will be banned. Insurers will also have to provide information in plain language about what is covered and in a format that will enable consumers to make apples-to-apples comparisons among plans.

Aetna CEO Bertolini probably was thinking of the thousands of people who are currently enrolled in limited benefit plans when he warned of premium rate shock. And he has a point. The premiums for such plans are low compared to policies that actually cover medical care doctors and nurses provide to cure you once you've been hospitalized. It's not unreasonable to think that Aetna would charge its existing limited benefit customers more for real insurance -- maybe even twice as much. But because insurers market limited benefit plans to low income workers, most likely will qualify for subsidies to help them pay the premiums.

Indeed those people might be shocked when Aetna tells them how much they'll have to pay for a plan that is not "virtually worthless."

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17843 Jul 11, 2013
This is hot of the presses.This tells why the Obama Administration has covered up the Benghazi attack that killed 4 Americans.
It starts with ex-president Morsi of Egypt.
He was in the Muslim Brotherhood. He and a man named Bashir which is the President of Sudan plotted the Benghazi attack. It was in response to the video that Obama blamed for the attack.
Oddly enough this man Bashir was familiar with a man named Malik Obama. Malik Obama is also President Obamas Brother. Malik Obama and Bashir worked together to promote Islamic rule in other countries.
This is all the missing links in the Benghazi story. All that is left is who decided not to send military assistance to the Americans that were under siege. Also who was it that started the cover up plot.
This article reads like a murder mystery. Mystery is solved.

.wnd.com/2013/07/libyan-offici al-ties-morsi-to-benghazi-atta ck/

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#17844 Jul 11, 2013
Who wrote:
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All countries single payer huh?
The more you post the dumber you get.
http://truecostblog.com/2009/08/09/countries-...
+1

Why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17845 Jul 11, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
This is hot of the presses.This tells why the Obama Administration has covered up the Benghazi attack that killed 4 Americans.
It starts with ex-president Morsi of Egypt.
He was in the Muslim Brotherhood. He and a man named Bashir which is the President of Sudan plotted the Benghazi attack. It was in response to the video that Obama blamed for the attack.
Oddly enough this man Bashir was familiar with a man named Malik Obama. Malik Obama is also President Obamas Brother. Malik Obama and Bashir worked together to promote Islamic rule in other countries.
This is all the missing links in the Benghazi story. All that is left is who decided not to send military assistance to the Americans that were under siege. Also who was it that started the cover up plot.
This article reads like a murder mystery. Mystery is solved.
.wnd.com/2013/07/libyan-offici al-ties-morsi-to-benghazi-atta ck/

the period in front of the wnd.com prevents the page from loading.
Here is the page.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/libyan-official-ti...
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17846 Jul 11, 2013
Oh my wrote::

"That means most of those who are selling policies to individuals and small businesses will primarily be nonprofit companies, including the new co-op health plans that have received start-up loans from the federal government. Without the need to price their policies to cover a substantial profit and pay executives millions of dollars every year, the nonprofits should be able to sell coverage that is more affordable."

Well sure the co-ops will, just like Obama's millions given to the green energy companies worked so well.

What difference will it make if the estimated 40% failure of co-ops cause huge problems for those who choose as their health insurance, other than the poor suckers will fail to get a doctor's appointment who the doctors know the patients insurance company is in default.
And what will Obama do, point his finger somewhere else and give a motivational speech.

As of Jan, 2013, "To date, there are no state-level CO-OPs that are fully funded or operational, despite the federal government already awarding more than $2 billion worth of loans to CO-OPs in 24 states. Additionally, despite the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) requiring that a state indicate it is able to repay its CO-OP loan, one estimate indicates that as many as 40 percent of CO-OPs will default on the planning loans and 35 percent will default on the solvency loans. It is further projected that CO-OPs will, at minimum, cost the federal government around $10 million annually to administer once established."


Maybe Oh Ugly Eve will choose one of them, since he's so all fired in a hurry to throw away his money.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2013/01/09/c...
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17847 Jul 11, 2013
Or maybe those co-ops will work like my electric EMC, whose rates are higher than Ga. Power Co. rates.

Yep, those who run the co-ops all share the high salaries equally, not just the CEO. Take their seminars in exoctic locales at $800 a night hotels with $100 meals.

Yep, just what America needs, another entity to feed off taxpayers and the low income of America.


jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#17848 Jul 11, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
the period in front of the wnd.com prevents the page from loading.
Here is the page.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/libyan-official-ti...
Hey Dave, you left out all the good stuff by that great WND journalist Ted Nugent!!
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17849 Jul 11, 2013
Oh my wrote::

"..According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 98 percent of companies with 200 or more workers provide coverage, and 94 percent of those with 50-199 workers do. This means that the part of the reform law the administration is postponing until 2015 -- the requirement that employers with 50 or more workers offer coverage -- affects only a very small percentage of companies and between 1 million and 1.5 million people."

Now compare those 1 to 1.5 mil to the companies below,

"For U.S. small businesses with fewer than 50 full-time employees, this change doesn’t directly impact them – as employers. That’s because businesses with under 50 employees were not subject to the employer mandate provisions in the first place.

Of course, the vast majority of U.S. small businesses have fewer than 50 employees. Most have fewer than 20."
http://smallbiztrends.com/2013/07/employer-ma...

And this::

"As of 2010, there were roughly 5.7 million small employers, defined as those with fewer than 500 workers. Some 97% of them have fewer than 50 employees. That means Obamacare's employer mandate applies only to 3% of America's small businesses.

That's about 200,000 companies."
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/21/smallbusiness...

Millions upon millions who will fall under the individual mandate, who can barely afford to meet their daily needs as it is. Who pays for Them? They get a tax credit from their Income tax return, but in order to get that credit, they must first be able to pay the preminums. And who provides the credits? Why the tax payers of course, Obama's choice method of taking from the haves and gives to the havenots, expanding socialism in America under forced taxation.
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17850 Jul 11, 2013
Oh my wrote::

"...Another important provision set for January 1 will prohibit insurers from charging people in their 40s, 50s and 60s more than three times as much as people in their 20s and 30s."

3 times as much, so if a person in the 30's buy a family of four policy under Obamacare for say $1,000 a month, the family of four in their 40's and above will be charged $3,000 a month for everyone knows the insurance companies will charged the most they can get, they always do.

Everyone who believes a family of four of any age can afford the premiums above, please post it.

"...In addition, in less than three months, people who can't get coverage through their workplace can shop for it in a way that finally makes sense. They'll be able to buy it on the online marketplaces that every state and the District of Columbia must have up and running on Oct. 1. "

Yep, the old co-ops I've already posted about.
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17851 Jul 11, 2013
Oh my wrote::

and the biggest fool hardy comment in that post is,,,

"...Also gone forever on January 1 will be an obstacle unique to America in the developed world -- job lock. An untold number of Americans for all practical purposes are indentured servants in large corporations, locked into jobs they don't like but won't dare quit because of their employer-subsidized health coverage."

Job Lock??? really?? what was this guy smoking who wrote this.
In today's world, any decent benefits offered by any employer takes into consideration the total cost of an employee, including salary.

Most big Companies today no longer offer full fledged health insurance, they only offer company subsidized healthcare, with employees paying more than half the cost.

Company health insurance is no longer the big gun held to an employees head the way it was back in the 80's & 90's. Salaries are now the big gun for employees to seek employment elsewhere.

Employees who leave a company in today's job environment is looking to be out of work for a very long time.
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#17852 Jul 11, 2013
And I'm still asking myself why I'm responding to that BS by Oh my using the Huff-huff-and puff website.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17853 Jul 11, 2013
Who wrote:
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the period in front of the wnd.com prevents the page from loading.
Here is the page.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/libyan-official-ti...
Thanks. I was in a hurry and didn't check my link out. I should have noticed the link wasn't in blue.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17854 Jul 11, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Dave, you left out all the good stuff by that great WND journalist Ted Nugent!!
This story could be correct. It does make sense as to why there was a coverup. We will just wait and see.
You show your ignorance again by closing your mind too quickly.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17855 Jul 11, 2013
Who wrote:
And I'm still asking myself why I'm responding to that BS by Oh my using the Huff-huff-and puff website.
I am out of breath just reading your reply's to her. I was also asking myself why you were responding. You know she will come back with another 1000 pages of copy and paste.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#17856 Jul 11, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Just more of your same old broken record. You want the government to be in control of your healthcare. I don't. You are used to being told how to live. You union types have been told what to do ever since you joined. It's a way of life for you to let your "boss" make your decisions. Another entity telling you what to do wouldn't bother you at all. It woud make you feel MORE warm and fuzzy. Did you read where the leader of the AFL-CIO is not happy with Obama and his newest Obamacare mandate decision? Dang! You just can't get anything for your money these days, huh?
Once again ... Lots of words ... No evidence in rebuttal.

Pretend you and your $123.32 can negotiate against the $1,210,364,891,677.11 corporation!that can replace you in 1.3 seconds with some other humanoid.

It's entertaining.

Sure.

In your dreams you, standing alone, can threaten to bring multi-billion dollar multi-national corporations to their knees, unless they give you one of those treasured full-time jobs with benefits, instead of a part-time, minimum wage, no benefits job, that leaves your kids on Medicaid and eating free lunch at school on the taxpayers.

Face it.

You, like the 285 million Americans are impotent little nothings in the face of the monopolies that control you and your politicians. You exist to either serve your corporate masters, or as a parasite living off my tax dollars.

Thanks to liberal Democrap policies like Social Security, Medicare, and minimum wage, at least you are still around.

Thanks to FDR, you're still around , otherwise, you'd have been a fond, or not-so-fond memory long ago.

God bless FDR and Teddy Roosevelt.

I'm happy for you FDR

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