danger zone

Marietta, GA

#10223 May 10, 2013
danger zone wrote:
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Obama won't suffer, it'll be his puppets, Hillary & Rice. Hillary for not doing a darn thing about it, as it unfolded. Rice has already suffered by having to withdraw her name as a possible nomination as Secretary of State. That in itself, proves it was no little matter.
This post was meant for Chickenbutt, not for Aggie.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#10224 May 10, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
This is a twisted interpretation, Charlene Lamb -Deputy Asst Sec for Int'l Programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security stated in Oct 2012 that budget cuts were not a factor in either the refusal to increase security or the decision to lessen security. Eugene Robinson should have done his homework.
"This is a twisted interpretation"
That is YOUR opinion of the oped, based on YOUR opinion of the testimony and news reports that YOU give credence to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene...
Did Clinton’s State Department fail to provide adequate security for the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi? In retrospect, obviously so. But the three diplomats who testified at the hearing gave no evidence that this failure sprang from anything other than the need to use limited resources as efficiently as possible.

House Republicans who voted to cut funding for State Department security should understand that their philosophy — small government is always better — has consequences. Bureaucrats have to make judgment calls. Sometimes they will be wrong.
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CIA Takes Heat for Role in Libya
November 1, 2012, 9:05 p.m. ET
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297...

...The U.S. effort in Benghazi was at its heart a CIA operation, according to officials briefed on the intelligence. Of the more than 30 American officials evacuated from Benghazi following the deadly assault, only seven worked for the State Department. Nearly all the rest worked for the CIA, under diplomatic cover, which was a principal purpose of the consulate, these officials said.

...Congressional investigators say it appears that the CIA and State Department weren't on the same page about their respective roles on security, underlining the rift between agencies over taking responsibility and raising questions about whether the security arrangement in Benghazi was flawed.
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Accountability Review Board (ARB) for Benghazi
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/2...

FINDINGS
2. Systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department (the “Department”) resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place.

Security in Benghazi was not recognized and implemented as a “shared responsibility” by the bureaus in Washington charged with supporting the post, resulting in stove-piped discussions and decisions on policy and security.

...Overall, the number of Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) security staff in Benghazi on the day of the attack and in the months and weeks leading up to it was inadequate, despite repeated requests from Special Mission Benghazi and Embassy Tripoli for additional staffing.

...Special Mission Benghazi’s uncertain future after 2012 and its “non-status” as a temporary, residential facility made allocation of resources for security and personnel more difficult, and left responsibility to meet security standards to the working-level in the field, with very limited resources.

...At the same time, the SMC’s dependence on the armed but poorly skilled Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security support was misplaced.

...there were some troubling indicators of its reliability in the months and weeks preceding the September attacks. At the time of Ambassador Stevens’ visit, February 17 militia members had stopped accompanying Special Mission vehicle movements in protest over salary and working hours.
danger zone

Marietta, GA

#10225 May 10, 2013
Of course, attempting to silence the whistleblowers by the talking points list, is unethical. They need to get their hands on those e-mails.
danger zone

Marietta, GA

#10226 May 10, 2013
danger zone

Atlanta, GA

#10227 May 10, 2013
This link is more informative than the NBC article.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9490...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#10228 May 10, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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"This is a twisted interpretation"
That is YOUR opinion of the oped, based on YOUR opinion of the testimony and news reports that YOU give credence to.
Nope, it is an acknowledgement of the facts of Ms Lamb's testimony and acknowledgement of her position as Dept Asst Secretary of Int'l Programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security - which would cerrtainly imply she knows what she is talking about. No opinion needed - just a willingness to read and comprehend the written word.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher:“Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”
Charlene Lamb: No, sir.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#10229 May 10, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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"This is a twisted interpretation"
That is YOUR opinion of the oped, based on YOUR opinion of the testimony and news reports that YOU give credence to.
This quotation includes Rep Rohrabacher's complete question:

State Department Official Charlene Lamb Testified Before The House Oversight Committee That Budget Cuts Had Nothing To Do With Security Decisions In Benghazi. REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R-CA):“It has been suggested the budget cuts are responsible for lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally, was there any budget consideration and lack of budget that led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?” STATE DEPARTMENT DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS CHARLENE LAMB:“No, sir.”(U.S. House Of Representatives, Oversight And Government Reform Committee, Hearing, 10/10/12)
Redneck

Jefferson, GA

#10230 May 10, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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This quotation includes Rep Rohrabacher's complete question:
State Department Official Charlene Lamb Testified Before The House Oversight Committee That Budget Cuts Had Nothing To Do With Security Decisions In Benghazi. REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R-CA):“It has been suggested the budget cuts are responsible for lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally, was there any budget consideration and lack of budget that led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?” STATE DEPARTMENT DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS CHARLENE LAMB:“No, sir.”(U.S. House Of Representatives, Oversight And Government Reform Committee, Hearing, 10/10/12)
Shame on you for using facts to explode the talking points of a loyal progressive. You better apologize before you changed with a hate crime.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#10231 May 10, 2013
Paul Broun in 2014.
danger zone

Atlanta, GA

#10232 May 10, 2013
Well, well, well.... things are looking too good for the White House concerning the Bengahzi cover-up AND the IRS being used for political purposes. Double whammy!
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10233 May 10, 2013
danger zone wrote:
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Rice has already suffered by having to withdraw her name as a possible nomination as Secretary of State. That in itself, proves it was no little matter.
That's very circular logic.

1. Republicans wanted her head because that's what they do.
2. Rice folded due to the Republicans, proving it was no little matter.
3. Rice folding proves it was worth wanting her head for.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10234 May 10, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
Paul Broun in 2014.
Bill Nye the Science Guy:

Science educator Bill Nye questioned Broun's ability to serve on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, stating,'"Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest"' and that '"He is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."

Paul Broun is as uneducated and unethical as a politician can be. He's about as smart as a bag of hammers. The voters that put him in office REALLY should be embarrassed for the irresponsibility of their actions in such a serious matter.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#10235 May 10, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Bill Nye the Science Guy:
Science educator Bill Nye questioned Broun's ability to serve on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, stating,'"Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest"' and that '"He is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."
Paul Broun is as uneducated and unethical as a politician can be. He's about as smart as a bag of hammers. The voters that put him in office REALLY should be embarrassed for the irresponsibility of their actions in such a serious matter.
Facts please.
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#10236 May 10, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Bill Nye the Science Guy:
Science educator Bill Nye questioned Broun's ability to serve on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, stating,'"Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest"' and that '"He is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology."
Paul Broun is as uneducated and unethical as a politician can be. He's about as smart as a bag of hammers. The voters that put him in office REALLY should be embarrassed for the irresponsibility of their actions in such a serious matter.
Agreed.
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#10237 May 10, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Facts please.
Have you seen his website? All the proof anybody would need. Check it out.
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#10238 May 10, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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How so? What do you disagree with in that article?
Specifically, I'm NOT asking how the article makes you FEEL, or if it does or doesn't fit in with your pre-programmed views. I'm asking what failures, logically, are there in what was written?

# 1- An opinion piece.
2- The Washington Post-in my opinion is a biased paper. My opinion is as good as the other fellas opinion.
3-An article written May 9 that conveniently left out that the Inspector General would be investigating the Pickering report itself which should include informed persons who had knowledge about the incident that the Pickering report failed to interview.

4 –An article obviously biased against Issa with Eugene’s comment “I can only hope that Issa’s witch hunt.”
With the “Witch hunt.” Comment Eugene shot himself in the foot while shooting off his mouth without any decent investigation, Eugene relied on his bias.

I realized you fall for such crap because you have blinders, but any self- respecting person can read the article and pick up on the bias real easy, hence a useless post in my opinion by Oh my. And this is not the first time Oh my has posted useless crap by mother jones, Huffington and other liberal websites.

Yall are afraid of posting any two sides of any story involving Obama your mama, for why should you question your God.
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#10239 May 10, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Well, surprise, surprise - according to the Associated Press, the IRS is apologizing for "inappropriately flagging conservative political groups for additional reviews during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status."
The head of the unit that oversees tax-exempt groups, Lois Lerner,
admitted "organizations that included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status were singled out for additional reviews."

Shows the influence of socialism in the country, many are in government employment.
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#10240 May 10, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Witch-Hunt.

Balderdash.
danger zone

Atlanta, GA

#10241 May 10, 2013
News report tell, White House Secretary, Jay Carney, took a beating today as he answerd Benghazi questions.No wonder MSM showed only 5 second snippets. According to news outlets, he was ripped to shreds as he appeared awkward, stuttered & back-tracked. His worst performance, thus far..... just another puppet.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#10242 May 10, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Facts please.
If you're promoting him you have an implied responsibility to your fellow Americans to know the facts already. Politics matter.

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/10/09/on-sci...

While there is commentary here you can ignore it. You'll see the raw footage of the person you think should hold one of the most powerful seats on the planet.



Sorry Mr. Lee. If you're promoting this guy you've lost all credibility and respect. Differing opinions on how to solve problems are welcome and essential to Americas political process. Pure dumbassery is not.

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