Bored

Commerce, GA

#6861 Apr 12, 2013
FactChickn wrote:
<quoted text>
You're showing how much the deficit grew during each quarter.
That's NOT what I asked. Not even anything close to it.
I asked WHAT made the deficit grow, and by how much for each cause.
You know that's what I asked. You're avoiding the truth.
I'm not trying to be an a-hole. I'm trying to establish and get some acknowledgement of some real facts that are very useful if we're going to discuss anything at all.
Otherwise all this "Libtards Suck" "Obama Sucks" "Giving all my money away" comments I keep hearing here are the intellectual equivalent of saying: "Nanny-nanny-Boo-Boo you doo-doo-head". It's an exercise in immaturity and pointlessness.
So how about we go to the official government accounting agencies and seeing why the deficit has gotten to it's current state.?
Care to do that? Or do you just like calling people "Doo-Doo Head"?
Well frankly Chickens**t, you are one dumb poster that can't tell a quarter from a year. Nor a quarter from a dollar.
You want answers to "why" there is a deficit, look it up yourself. Google is a friend of everyone except you it seems.

Your posts are an exercise in futility and uselessness for one who can spell correctly but yet remain clueless with deficits, what makes a deficit, and who makes that deficit.

Obama has many supporters like you, clueless and too lazy to do their own education.

Say, you might want to check out that chicken feed you are eating, sound like Obama nuts to me.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6862 Apr 12, 2013
FactChickn wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you bother?
you are right, why do I bother with you.
Thanks, I will let you go on in your own little world.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6863 Apr 12, 2013
Obama sucks and so do Chickens.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#6864 Apr 12, 2013
LogicalChickn wrote:
Why are Republicans so damn afraid of actually acknowledging a real fact?
When you state an actual fact, maybe one of us might.
FactChickn

Douglasville, GA

#6865 Apr 12, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>
Well frankly Chickens**t, you are one dumb poster that can't tell a quarter from a year. Nor a quarter from a dollar.
You want answers to "why" there is a deficit, look it up yourself. Google is a friend of everyone except you it seems.
Your posts are an exercise in futility and uselessness for one who can spell correctly but yet remain clueless with deficits, what makes a deficit, and who makes that deficit.
Obama has many supporters like you, clueless and too lazy to do their own education.
Say, you might want to check out that chicken feed you are eating, sound like Obama nuts to me.
Avoiding the truth. You REFUSE to acknowlege any facts at all while doing nothing but complaining and criticizing.

You're comfortable having the propaganda wash over you. It's too bad.

Maybe some other day we can have a real conversation once we can agree on some base facts.

But today:

Not ONE of you will admit that the United States of America's economy collapsed during Former Republican George w. Bush's administration after 8 years of Republican policy. According to Republicans that never happened.

Not ONE of you will admit that the Unemployment Rate was in an out of control spin in the United States of Americaduring Former Republican President George w. Bush's administration after 8 years of Republican policy. According to Republicans that never happened.

Not ONE of you will admit that the United States of America's deficit went up dramatically Former Republican George w. Bush's administration after 8 years of Republican policy. According to Republicans that never happened.

Not ONE of you will even ATTEMPT to look at which policies and events created the deficit.

It's simply pathetic.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6866 Apr 12, 2013
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects. The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years. Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year. Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.

Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare. Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.


Yep, Obama and his economists are ruining this country.

As for how Bush created his deficit, I'll let the libtards deal with that. I expect they will come up with some screwball reason. But I will give a couple of hints, 9-11 and Katrina.


Bored

Commerce, GA

#6867 Apr 12, 2013
"It's simply pathetic."

Yes, you are.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#6868 Apr 12, 2013
Oh, this is rich. The state of New York - no hot bed of conservatism there - is advertising for businesses to move there by touting their LOWER TAXES. Their advertisements trumpet that they have "lowered business taxes" in order to "ENCOURAGE JOB CREATION" and have created tax free zones and have tax incentive programs in order to encourage business.

Please explain that those of you who refuse to acknowledge how taxes can either encourage growth or stifle it.
Libtard

Commerce, GA

#6870 Apr 12, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Oh, this is rich. The state of New York - no hot bed of conservatism there - is advertising for businesses to move there by touting their LOWER TAXES. Their advertisements trumpet that they have "lowered business taxes" in order to "ENCOURAGE JOB CREATION" and have created tax free zones and have tax incentive programs in order to encourage business.
Please explain that those of you who refuse to acknowledge how taxes can either encourage growth or stifle it.
but-but-but.
domino

Phenix City, AL

#6871 Apr 12, 2013
Factchicken, chicken crap or whoever only wants to present questions but never answer any or give facts.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6872 Apr 12, 2013
Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects. The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years. Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year. Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.
Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare. Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.
Yep, Obama and his economists are ruining this country.
As for how Bush created his deficit, I'll let the libtards deal with that. I expect they will come up with some screwball reason. But I will give a couple of hints, 9-11 and Katrina.
Thank you, Bored for attempting to answer the question.
Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years.
However - that isn't addressing the question.
Bored wrote:
Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion
Why was an Economic Stimulus package needed? Wasn't he handed a great economy after 8-years of Republican Policy? Can we blame Obama for destroying the economy, or did this happen before he got into office?
Bored wrote:
extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects.
Why in the WORLD would extened unemployment benefits be needed as soon as he took office? Didn't 8 years of Republican Policy hand over a pristine unemployment situation to Obama right when he entered office?
Bored wrote:
The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years.
Obama extended the BUSH tax cuts. It wasn't something he wanted to do in principle, it was something that he had to do in reality because of the economic situation. Unfortunately after 8 years of Republican Policy, the Economy of the United States of America was in shambles.
Bored wrote:
Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year.
He didn't commit the United States of America to two unfunded wars. That money was already being spent, it just wasn't on paper. It was unfunded.
Bored wrote:
Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.
This is a HUGE cause of deficit numbers. Should we blame the 2008 financial crisis on Obama? If not, which president SHOULD we attribute that portion of the deficit to, and which party did he belong to?
Bored wrote:
Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.
That's future money, not money already spent, and part of a different conversation.

If you dissect the deficit and acknowledge that a MAJOR FINANCIAL COLLAPSE and TWO UNFUNDED WARS all happened during the previous administrations watch - Well then, the numbers that Republican propagandists keep throwing out there that blame the majority of the deficit on Obama start to look like clear-cut lies.

We can now actually STOP blaming the deficit on Obama and correctly blame the majority of the existing deficit on George W. Bush. We've established something. That's good.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6873 Apr 12, 2013
domino wrote:
Factchicken, chicken crap or whoever only wants to present questions but never answer any or give facts.
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but did you answer even ONE basic question?

Even one as simple as "Did the economy collapse during George Bush's presidency"? No. You did not.

That wasn't even a good job at deflection and avoidance.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6874 Apr 12, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Oh, this is rich. The state of New York - no hot bed of conservatism there - is advertising for businesses to move there by touting their LOWER TAXES. Their advertisements trumpet that they have "lowered business taxes" in order to "ENCOURAGE JOB CREATION" and have created tax free zones and have tax incentive programs in order to encourage business.
Please explain that those of you who refuse to acknowledge how taxes can either encourage growth or stifle it.
This is a DRAMATIC change of subject from where we currently are.

You're a smart person. Can you acknowledge that Bush tanked the economy before he left office, that there was rampant job losses during his last year, and that he raised the deficit significantly?

Yes or no? Did those things happen?
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6875 Apr 12, 2013
Man these Republicans are dancing around the facts laying right there in front of them.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/026i8TM10...

Avoidance, deflection, name-calling, mis-direction, anything to keep from acknowledging simple basic truths.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6876 Apr 12, 2013
It should probably be noted that at this stage all Republican supporters appear to have fled from Topix.

Apparently acknowledging reality is kinda scary and traumatic for Republicans.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6877 Apr 12, 2013
""This is a DRAMATIC change of subject from where we currently are.

You're a smart person. Can you acknowledge that Bush tanked the economy before he left office, that there was rampant job losses during his last year, and that he raised the deficit significantly?""

No and NO.

""Yes or no? Did those things happen?""

No.
If you can prove otherwise do so with something other than by flapping your jaw.

However, Bush's average unemployment while in office was 5.45% while Obama's average in his 4 years is 8.875%.

Go ahead, blame Bush for Obama's screwups but we know better.

LMAO @ at a libtard who is confused and don't know diddly.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#6878 Apr 12, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
It should probably be noted that at this stage all Republican supporters appear to have fled from Topix.
Apparently acknowledging reality is kinda scary and traumatic for Republicans.
Anybody on here want to get impregnated tonite???? All left wingers on here, know you dont have jobs to go to. Lets have some govt supported babies and listen to npr while we fill women up with man gravy and smear ben and jerrys ice cream on each others nipples
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6879 Apr 12, 2013
Ah!

Finally a prototypical Republican supporter has made an appearance.

This one could be on the front cover of "The North American Field Guide to Right-Wing Whackos".*

*(N.Gingrich Publishing, c 2012)
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6880 Apr 12, 2013
""Thank you, Bored for attempting to answer the question.

Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years.

However - that isn't addressing the question.""

Since you don't have a question worthy of comment, my answer will do for me.

"Bored wrote:
Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion

Why was an Economic Stimulus package needed?""
Because he scared the crap out of business and business pratically shut down when he came into office.

"Wasn't he handed a great economy after 8-years of Republican Policy?"
Yes he was, but like all socialists he screwed it up.

"Can we blame Obama for destroying the economy,"
Yes, we can, and we do.

"or did this happen before he got into office?"
No, he screwed it up all by himself.

"Bored wrote:
extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects.

Why in the WORLD would extened unemployment benefits be needed as soon as he took office?"
Was not needed but was his choice. A bad choice.


"Didn't 8 years of Republican Policy hand over a pristine unemployment situation to Obama right when he entered office?"

Yes.

"Bored wrote:
The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years.

Obama extended the BUSH tax cuts. It wasn't something he wanted to do in principle, it was something that he had to do in reality because of the economic situation. Unfortunately after 8 years of Republican Policy, the Economy of the United States of America was in shambles.""

His choice again, name a libtard who don't like big spending.

"Bored wrote:
Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year.

He didn't commit the United States of America to two unfunded wars. That money was already being spent, it just wasn't on paper. It was unfunded."

Wrong again swammi.

"Bored wrote:
Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.

This is a HUGE cause of deficit numbers. Should we blame the 2008 financial crisis on Obama?

NO, but he sure added to it.

"If not, which president SHOULD we attribute that portion of the deficit to, and which party did he belong to?"

Belonged to Bush, and I did attribute it to him. I posted the deficit numbers, sorry your brain is not capable of understanding the numbers.

"Bored wrote:
Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.

That's future money, not money already spent, and part of a different conversation."

Wrong again swammi. Money is flying out the window as we speak and no one is even receiving the benefits yet.
And money spent is always a part of the conversation. Just because you don't like it, too bad.

"If you dissect the deficit and acknowledge that a MAJOR FINANCIAL COLLAPSE and TWO UNFUNDED WARS all happened during the previous administrations watch - Well then, the numbers that Republican propagandists keep throwing out there that blame the majority of the deficit on Obama start to look like clear-cut lies."

Dollar numbers don't lie, Obamas supporters do.

"We can now actually STOP blaming the deficit on Obama and correctly blame the majority of the existing deficit on George W. Bush. We've established something. That's good."

Only in a libtards mind is it good.

Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#6881 Apr 12, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
Ah!
Finally a prototypical Republican supporter has made an appearance.
This one could be on the front cover of "The North American Field Guide to Right-Wing Whackos".*
*(N.Gingrich Publishing, c 2012)
I aint no republican. I meant it. I been drinkin root beer all day!! I voted for obama and proud of it.

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