ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6309 Apr 7, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Dismal job creation and a horrible unemployment rate, yawn.
Come on Aggie.

Look at the pretty picture and tell me if you see a pattern.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6812356495...

Any pattern? Anything at all?
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6310 Apr 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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OMG! STEP AWAY FROM THE CRACK PIPE!!!!!!!!!!
You should take this post to Comedy Central.
Hey Amirite? Amirite?

You know I'm not lying. It's all true, Baby!
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#6311 Apr 7, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
To continue the point about those in need. The Left's answer is to take money from others and give it to the govt to distribute. And we have decades of experience now to show it does not help, it actually hurts those who become dependent on the system. The Right believes in people giving their own money to the charities of their choice, many of which are charities that are locally based and can give personal help to people -local resource offices that can help people with not just a check, but with connections to organizations that can help with clothes for job interviews, or perhaps training programs or child care resources so moms can work to support themselves. That is how you help people break the cycle of dependence - not by giving them a check that will just get them through the next few weeks. The old adage is very true: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime."
Both political parties are missing the point. If you want to get out of poverty, you have to teach and reinforce innovation, so that people know how to make something out of nothing. That is what we have moved away from, and we do it with excessive paper, and layers of red tape. Government teaches that it is better to live on the system, then to live off of the system. Complicating all of it, is this "democrat", "republican" party affiliation, instead of focussing on our core values as Americans. We have models for the industrial revolution. We are missing models for our population today. You cannot live in America in pure capitalism- all the wealth will go to the few at the top. You cannot live with pure socialism/communism, you will destroy innovation and motivation. We have to find ways to blend the two, and we can't do that until we get out of the "republican", "democrat", party affiliation, where we stay stuck. Paralyzed might be the better word.

Since: Nov 12

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#6312 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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No. Five years and things are WAY BETTER than they were. At least MOST people have jobs, the economy didn't completely crash, the employment situation has taken a reverse heading and Bin Laden is dead. There's at least a BIT of regulation on Wall Street, women have a better chance of achieving better pay through the Lilly Ledbetter Act, millions of young people are now insured and massive reforms are occurring in the health-care conglomerates.
Bush didn't do that. The TEA PARTY didn't do that. The 112th Congress didn't do that. Boehner SURE didn't do that as all he's been busy doing is repeatedly voting to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,(it's almost like he doesn't like most Americans!), Sarah Palin didn't achieve those things, John McCain didn't achieve those things, and Mitt Romney didn't achieve those things.
It took Obama. He's yer super-hero. You know it.
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/wp-content/uplo...
Better - not hardly. For so long, people have looked at Obama's presidency as a continuation of another disastrous president - Jimmy Carter,but now Obama is looking more and more like FDR, whose policies extended the Depression far longer than it should have been and it looks like Obama's polices will extend this recession in the same way with illogical Keynesian policies of "spend our way to prosperity" when any economist worth his pay knows that does not work. And please don't try and pass off that tired old argument about women only receiving 75% in pay compared to what a man gets.
Any one who has ever looked at the data knows that statistic is a misleading lie. It does not take into account education, years worked, time taken off for child rearing or actual job descriptions. When all those variables are taken into account the worst that can be said is a woman makes 98% of what a comparable man makes, some show the woman making 105% compared to the man's 100%.

Since: Nov 08

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#6313 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Not worse.
Remember when everybody was leaving Wall STreet with boxes of their stuff in hand?
Remember when it looked like almost everybody was going to have to get their next meal from a soup kitchen?
Remember when congressmen were meeting outside the Capitol building in panic because America almost ceased to exist?
Obama fixed it. You should send him a letter of thanks.
Seriously, how does one GET as brainwashed as you? Look at what Obama is doing now with the loans for homes to those with weak credit???? Oh, my gosh! That's what got us here in the first place. Now, start with the excuses and support. UGH.

Since: Nov 08

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#6314 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Not worse.
Remember when everybody was leaving Wall STreet with boxes of their stuff in hand?
Remember when it looked like almost everybody was going to have to get their next meal from a soup kitchen?
Remember when congressmen were meeting outside the Capitol building in panic because America almost ceased to exist?
Obama fixed it. You should send him a letter of thanks.
Just the debt is enough. Consider the joblessness, taxes, healthcare, etc. Seriously, no one is listening. Obama is responsible. It's his watch. He wanted this, he got it and IT"S HIS. If a conservative were doing this junk, you libs would be killing people in the streets. Your double standard is astounding.

Since: Nov 08

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#6315 Apr 7, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Hey, Synergy
Can you imagine the ridicule from the media if a Republican president who had been in office for over 4 years was still blaming his predecessor? It would be night after night of "when is this president going to quit pointing at the other kids on the playground and man up." Of course this administration takes responsibility for NOTHING. Benghazi - don't blame Obama, he had gone to bed - oh, imagine the field day the media would have had if that were a Republican president who had gone to bed while a consulate was under attack - and then to have gone to a fund raiser after we find out four Americans had been killed - including our Ambassador. That would have been the top story for weeks. Guns being allowed to go untracked into Mexico, resulting in the death of a border patrol agent - there would be screams from the media for an investigation if it were under a Republican - instead virtual silence. Dismal job creation and a horrible unemployment rate, yawn.
Aggie, your post explains EXACTLY why conservatives know that liberals are lunatics. They live by a double standard and I am beginning to think that NOT ONE of them is intelligent to understand that. It's incredulous.

Since: Nov 08

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#6316 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Hey Amirite? Amirite?
You know I'm not lying. It's all true, Baby!
I didn't say you are right. I said you are HIGH!:)
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6317 Apr 7, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Better - not hardly. For so long, people have looked at Obama's presidency as a continuation of another disastrous president - Jimmy Carter,but now Obama is looking more and more like FDR, whose policies extended the Depression far longer than it should have been and it looks like Obama's polices will extend this recession in the same way with illogical Keynesian policies of "spend our way to prosperity" when any economist worth his pay knows that does not work.
What people are going to remember about Obama's presidency is that the American people rejected completely the Republican Party's insulting candidates. They are going to remember that the American people rejected completely the notion that "hey! let's do more of the same things that got us into this mess in the first place!"

People will remember that Obama was able to keep this country afloat DESPITE the fact the the Republican 112th Congress felt that their only job was to get that president out of office by any means possible when what America needed was responsible leadership and a Congress working to solve America's problems...problems that we CLEARLY remember were caused by the last Republican President that Americans were foolish enough to allow into the White House.

You've taken your position - and you scrape together whatever critisism you can muster against our current president - but you really MUST stop decieving yourself about what really happened. It did happen - it's not up for debate.

A Republican President recklessly came dangerously close to collapsing the entire economy of the entire country, and then a Republican Congress threw a giant hissy fit and obstructed progress towards repairing the damage. And - despite that - Obama has had a fair amount of success.

Right now all Americans are going to feel the effects of Sequestration - which the try to blame on Obama. Unfortunately that little bit of illusion is no longer viable to them since Boehner admitted that Obama did not want sequestration and the Republicans did. Again - they want Americans to suffer so that they will blame it on Obama so they can leverage this action towards polical power. It's irresponsible, it's dangerous, it's immoral and unconscionable. And it is exactly true.

Since: Nov 12

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#6318 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Come on Aggie.
Look at the pretty picture and tell me if you see a pattern.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6812356495...
Any pattern? Anything at all?
Considering the graph is credited to the "Office of the Democratic Leader"
- I'm not impressed. I went to the Bureau of Labor Statistics website to try and confirm that chart. Couldn't do it. Looked up Office of the Democratic Leader - all it tried to link me to were Nancy Pelosi web sites - so where did you find that graph? So me the link and then we can talk.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6319 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Five years and things are WAY BETTER than they were. At least MOST people have jobs, the economy didn't completely crash, the employment situation has taken a reverse heading and Bin Laden is dead. There's at least a BIT of regulation on Wall Street, women have a better chance of achieving better pay through the Lilly Ledbetter Act, millions of young people are now insured and massive reforms are occurring in the health-care conglomerates.
Bush didn't do that. The TEA PARTY didn't do that. The 112th Congress didn't do that. Boehner SURE didn't do that as all he's been busy doing is repeatedly voting to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,(it's almost like he doesn't like most Americans!), Sarah Palin didn't achieve those things, John McCain didn't achieve those things, and Mitt Romney didn't achieve those things.
It took Obama. He's yer super-hero. You know it.
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/wp-content/uplo...
Admit it. That picture is tatooed on your forehead. i KNOW it is.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6320 Apr 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at what Obama is doing now with the loans for homes to those with weak credit???? Oh, my gosh! That's what got us here in the first place.
I haven't formed an opinion on this yet.

At first glance I don't like the sound of it. However, the FHA is under the Administrative Branch, they insure a large portion of the loans made. The housing market really has been holding back the economy. Cautious and careful move to loosen that market could be very beneficial, both to young people and the economy at large. Going wild with loosening credit would be very dangerous and distasteful.

So, the Devil is in the details, and I don't know the details yet. We'll have to see exactly what is being proposed and what safeguards are intended to keep things from getting out of hand again.

How can you be so brainwashed as to reject something that may (or may not) be extremely beneficial without even knowing anything about it?
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6321 Apr 7, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Considering the graph is credited to the "Office of the Democratic Leader"
- I'm not impressed. I went to the Bureau of Labor Statistics website to try and confirm that chart. Couldn't do it. Looked up Office of the Democratic Leader - all it tried to link me to were Nancy Pelosi web sites - so where did you find that graph? So me the link and then we can talk.
That chart has been around for some time. The numbers used to create the chart were originated from the Office of Budget Management if I recall. In fact they made a chart that had the same info in it, it was just graphically ugly. Pelosi added some color and there it is.

Do a Google Image search for Bush Obama Jobs and you'll find it. Some time back I posted a link to the OBM version of it - it wasn't easy digging through their immense number of documents to get to the original report and graph.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6322 Apr 7, 2013
Actually, I think it was CBO numbers that were used to make that draft rather than OBM. It's been awhile.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#6323 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't formed an opinion on this yet.
At first glance I don't like the sound of it. However, the FHA is under the Administrative Branch, they insure a large portion of the loans made. The housing market really has been holding back the economy. Cautious and careful move to loosen that market could be very beneficial, both to young people and the economy at large. Going wild with loosening credit would be very dangerous and distasteful.
So, the Devil is in the details, and I don't know the details yet. We'll have to see exactly what is being proposed and what safeguards are intended to keep things from getting out of hand again.
How can you be so brainwashed as to reject something that may (or may not) be extremely beneficial without even knowing anything about it?
Because one of the main points is that "income level and employment" not be considered. That is part of what got us into this in the first place with the Clinton Justice Dept coming down on banks for not granting home loans to people who couldn't afford them - all in the interests of "fairness". And Federal Housing officials want assurances that lending institutions will not be held accountable for loans to riskier lendees who later default. It is a recipe for disaster.

Since: Nov 08

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#6324 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
What people are going to remember about Obama's presidency is that the American people rejected completely the Republican Party's insulting candidates. They are going to remember that the American people rejected completely the notion that "hey! let's do more of the same things that got us into this mess in the first place!"
People will remember that Obama was able to keep this country afloat DESPITE the fact the the Republican 112th Congress felt that their only job was to get that president out of office by any means possible when what America needed was responsible leadership and a Congress working to solve America's problems...problems that we CLEARLY remember were caused by the last Republican President that Americans were foolish enough to allow into the White House.
You've taken your position - and you scrape together whatever critisism you can muster against our current president - but you really MUST stop decieving yourself about what really happened. It did happen - it's not up for debate.
A Republican President recklessly came dangerously close to collapsing the entire economy of the entire country, and then a Republican Congress threw a giant hissy fit and obstructed progress towards repairing the damage. And - despite that - Obama has had a fair amount of success.
Right now all Americans are going to feel the effects of Sequestration - which the try to blame on Obama. Unfortunately that little bit of illusion is no longer viable to them since Boehner admitted that Obama did not want sequestration and the Republicans did. Again - they want Americans to suffer so that they will blame it on Obama so they can leverage this action towards polical power. It's irresponsible, it's dangerous, it's immoral and unconscionable. And it is exactly true.
What people will remember about Obama is that he promised Hope and Change: and then Forward and when the Hope and Change didn't happen, then took our country forward into socialism. He'll be credited with implementing a healthcare program that bankrupted our country. He'll be remembered for NEVER taking responsibility for any failures even though they happened on his watch. He'll be remembered for improving his golf handicap while the promises he made to help people fell by the wayside. He'll be remembered as winning the presidency because he didn't have any serious opponents. He'll forever be known as the first black president who had NO qualifications, but was elected president anyway. Oh! He'll also be known as the president who won the Nobel Peace Prize only because he is black.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6325 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't formed an opinion on this yet.
At first glance I don't like the sound of it. However, the FHA is under the Administrative Branch, they insure a large portion of the loans made. The housing market really has been holding back the economy. Cautious and careful move to loosen that market could be very beneficial, both to young people and the economy at large. Going wild with loosening credit would be very dangerous and distasteful.
So, the Devil is in the details, and I don't know the details yet. We'll have to see exactly what is being proposed and what safeguards are intended to keep things from getting out of hand again.
How can you be so brainwashed as to reject something that may (or may not) be extremely beneficial without even knowing anything about it?
lol Oh! It WON'T be Obama's fault. It will be Bush's fault. Well, if YOU think it's a good idea, it will be Obama's GREAT idea. If it sucks, well, it will be Bush's fault. Obamabot.
Informed Opinion

Alva, FL

#6326 Apr 7, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm glad you read it, now please work on comprehending it, because you are so off base. You appear to be referring mainly to the story of the rich young man who asked Jesus what he must do to attain eternal life. Jesus told him to give all his money to the poor and follow Him. That was never meant as a command for all Christians. Christ looked into the young man's heart and saw that FOR HIM, his wealth was an impediment to giving himself to Christ and the young man walked away sadly. Having money itself is not a problem, it is "the love of money that is a root of all kinds of evil." (2 Tim) There is a HUGE difference.

There is nothing evil in people who have worked hard and achieved success (and who already pay FAR MORE than their FAIR SHARE in taxes) objecting to a bloated, inefficient govt confiscating more and more of their hard earned money just to throw it way on programs that have been demonstrable failures. The War on Poverty - 40 years and $15 trillion later - the poverty rate is EXACTLY the same. Lets give money to women and children whose fathers have died or are not in the picture - result the illegitimacy rate has skyrocketed because the program ENCOURAGES the father to not be in the home. THAT is evil.
We spent over $50 Trillion Dollars making war and have nothing to show for it.

Those Trillions of dollars wasted in Vietnam, Panama, Nicaragua, Granada, Iraq, Columbia, Mexico, Afghanistan, and Pakistan have only made us enemies around the world, allegedly justifying spending additional Trillions to protect us from those enemies we create.

Now that's wasted money.

We have spent $15 Trillion Dollars assisting our fellow Americans, feeding children, housing our elderly, providing medical care for the ill and injured, and otherwise "promoting the general welfare.

Now that's money well spent. Money spent at home, improving the life of our fellow Americans, and our country, is an investment in America.

America cannot withstand the coming strife created by a system that causes one single family in America having more wealth than 40 million other Americans families, and adding insult to injury, that family paying a lower tax rate than those 40 million families.

It's not just politically wrong, it's morally wrong. The Right Wings' alignment as a tool for the wealthy is Anti-Christian.

Jesus simply was against people accumulating great wealth.

King James Bible:
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God".

Ezekiel 7:19
They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.

Right Wingers have to work hard to avoid acknowledging the obvious - that Jesus was a bleeding heart "Libtard",

Attacking me for defending Liberals, Moderates, and Progressives changes nothing.

The Bible is clear and unambiguous - Jesus was a liberal, and those who attack liberals for professing policies consistent with Christian theology, by definition, are attacking the very teachings of the Christian Church.

When they denigrate Liberals - they denigrate Jesus' teachings.

Pointing that out is just an easy way of demonstrating only one of the hypocrisy of the Right Wing.

Pointing out how Right Wing economic policies which inevitably fail, is another.
Pointing out the Right Wings' refusal to hold their leaders to any moral standard is one more.

The Right Wings' Anti-Christian stance as regards to taxes and income distribution just results in the strongest responses.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6327 Apr 7, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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I haven't formed an opinion on this yet.
At first glance I don't like the sound of it. However, the FHA is under the Administrative Branch, they insure a large portion of the loans made. The housing market really has been holding back the economy. Cautious and careful move to loosen that market could be very beneficial, both to young people and the economy at large. Going wild with loosening credit would be very dangerous and distasteful.
So, the Devil is in the details, and I don't know the details yet. We'll have to see exactly what is being proposed and what safeguards are intended to keep things from getting out of hand again.
How can you be so brainwashed as to reject something that may (or may not) be extremely beneficial without even knowing anything about it?
I haven't been an a$$h0!e to you, so will you tell ME your tax proposal? I'm curious because this whole tax thing is very concerning to me.
Informed Opinion

Alva, FL

#6328 Apr 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>TROLL
Sycophant

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