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ChicknButt

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General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Does the cheetah hunt the wildebeest?
Cheetahs don't hunt with rifles and donuts. He actually has to run and burn some calories and take some survival risks if he wants to eat. And he doesn't hang it's head on the wall once it's dead.

It's even possible that the Cheetah respects teh wildebeest a bit more than human hunters respect their victims.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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Cheetahs don't hunt with rifles and donuts. He actually has to run and burn some calories and take some survival risks if he wants to eat. And he doesn't hang it's head on the wall once it's dead.
It's even possible that the Cheetah respects teh wildebeest a bit more than human hunters respect their victims.
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I heard on the news several years ago that there was a place in South Georgia that you could pay to hunt wild bore. It was designed for the true hunting sportsman. You go out in the bush armed only with a spear. Kind of a scary thought if you run into a herd of wild bores. I never heard if the place was successful or not. I never heard anymore about it. Perhaps someone out there can fill us in.
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Informed Opinion wrote:
Have one last one.
http://bible.org/article/baby-dedication
Finally, I ask that the church make a vow as well. There's an old proverb that says "it takes a village to raise a child." Parents have first responsibility.
Thank you, you finally found one out of hundreds. Like looking for a straw in a haystack huh?
Your batting average is now back up to .001, you can sit on the bench and don't have to carry water anymore.
You could have used this one from the music group about Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.
Service of Dedication II
""Years ago the music group Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young had a hit song with the words "teach your children well." Indeed there is no higher calling for parents. Proverbs 10:1 reminds us that "a wise son brings joy to his father, but a foolish son grief to his mother." The best thing Moms and Dads can teach their child is the "fear of the Lord," for Proverbs 1:7 tells us this is "the beginning of knowledge." In other words, the successful application of all that (CHILD) learns in life depends on him first learning to fear and follow God. So the church urges you (PARENTS) to love God with every ounce and fiber of your being and teach (CHILD) to do the same. As you love God, one another, and (OTHER SIBLINGS), you will model before (CHILD) a wonderful love for God that he will want for himself.""
Much ado is made about interpretation of scripture but I must admit I never heard a music group mentioned in a Liturgy, but then it is called a Baby Dedication. Nor have I ever heard the African term "it takes a village" used in a Baby Dedication.
So is a Baby Dedication and an Infant Baptismal one and the same??
I think not as Evangelical Christians do not believe in Infant Baptism.
Not sure about the people at the link you gave. It's not like a real brick and mortar Church, or like real people. More like a group of like minded Christians together in the ether of the internet.
So one question, how are they going to fulfill their Christian duty to the children??
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"It takes a village" has been Christian dogma since the authors started writing down Jesus' words. It might be a new concept to you, but to normal folks it has been well understood and accepted.
That's what Christianity is you mental midget - a COMMUNITY of believers pledging to HELP and SUPPORT each other.
That's why the congregation is called upon the help and support the child in almost all liturgies.

Is that what Jesus meant when he said "Suffer the little children to come into me ?" Let the little bastards suffer ?
Are you really that moronic and selfish?

You really, really don't understand , do you?
You are so blinded by your own hatred of conservatives you would mix in christian biblical values to further your liberal and socialist agenda, and then turn right around and blast and debase those same christian values in regards to homosexuality and abortion.
Christian folks might call you a hypocrite, I'll just call you a radical socialist.

The term "it takes a village" is believed to come out of Africa, as it is very similar to other sayings and old hand me downs. Africa, land of great wealth and prosperity. You might like living there.

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Oh, one other question.
Is that music group Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young in your Bible also?

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Bill in Dville wrote:
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Now that I'm "caught up" on reading this thread, it's interesting to note that a certain someone has not responded to posts with questions about "their" tax proposal...
Interesting? Yes.
Surprising? No. You have to know what you're talking about to provide such information.
His/her response of "I'll get around to it when I want", or whatever, is a good indication that he/she has NO CLUE about taxes and may be doing a whole bunch of research to not further embarrass him or herself...
2 days later, still no tax proposal.

Not surprised.

Not surprised...
ChicknButt

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Bill in Dville wrote:
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2 days later, still no tax proposal.
Not surprised.
Not surprised...
You SHOULDN'T be surprised.

Here's where we're at:
1. I wrote a post responding to Synergy.
2. You had some questions. A couple of them were worth answering in a post that would require some detail and effort I thought.
3. I responded that I would answer them with some detail when I wasn't caught up in a lot of things.
4. You came on later and acted like an @ssho1e.
5. I thought to myself (again)- "Screw it, this guy is an @ssho1e."
6. You don't want an answer - you want to continue being an @ssho1e.
7. I'm just not interested in engaging in further discourse with somebody that is a perpetual @ssho!e.

That's where we are at. Clear, simple, concise.

Quit being an @sshole and perhaps we'll have some lively discussions some day in the future. Until then, I don't have any time to waste on somebody like you.
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Bored wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you, you finally found one out of hundreds. Like looking for a straw in a haystack huh?
Your batting average is now back up to .001, you can sit on the bench and don't have to carry water .... to fulfill their Christian duty to the children??
Wow - it took a liturgy that contained the exact specific, express, "word for word", and verbatim phrase: "It takes a village", to make you happy ?

The other baptism liturgies teaching that Christians have the responsibility to care and support the children of their fellow Christians were just too difficult to understand ?

Please, like the unfortunate child who accidentally signed up for Quantum Physics at M.I.T.- instead of Basic Math at the local junior college - you should just sit quietly until you have the opportunity to let the teacher know you enrolled in the wrong class.

One last attempt to force a rational thought into that hollow space located inside that depleted uranium shell called your cranium.

The concepts "Community of Christ" and "Church" and the responsibility we have to care for and support those among us who need help is a basic lesson Jesus taught and is central to Christian theology.

Just Google "It takes a village" and "Christianity" and you'll see how central it is- in fact - it is the primary teaching of Christ.

I provided four or five liturgies for baptism that acknowledge and accentuate this responsibility to care for others, and especially their children.

I could have provided dozens more, but why waste the time.

This responsibility the "Christian Community" has to others and their children has been synopsized into the phrase "It takes a village". This is a Christian concept - not a communist plot.

Since Christianity is completely altruistic and self-sacrificing, it is directly contradictory to Right Wing thought,(which is based on greed and self-interest). That makes it threatening to Right Wingers, but that's just too bad.

Please feel free continue to attack "Libtards" for professing the very beliefs expressly and unequivocally taught by Jesus Christ. You are attacking a very basic concept of Christianity, and calling Jesus a "Libtard" ain't a wise move.

Damn, I'm more Buddhist than Christian, and even I understand one of the basic tenents of the Christian religion you must accept is that "It takes a village" to be a Christian.

To paraphrase Gandhi:

I like your Christ, I do not like those who pretend to be Christians, they are so unlike your Christ.
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ChicknButt wrote:
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You SHOULDN'T be surprised.
Here's where we're at:
1. I wrote a post responding to Synergy.
2. You had some questions. A couple of them were worth answering in a post that would require some detail and effort I thought.
3. I responded that I would answer them with some detail when I wasn't caught up in a lot of things.
4. You came on later and acted like an @ssho1e.
5. I thought to myself (again)- "Screw it, this guy is an @ssho1e."
6. You don't want an answer - you want to continue being an @ssho1e.
7. I'm just not interested in engaging in further discourse with somebody that is a perpetual @ssho!e.
That's where we are at. Clear, simple, concise.
Quit being an @sshole and perhaps we'll have some lively discussions some day in the future. Until then, I don't have any time to waste on somebody like you.
u made many posts over the last few days so u had mucho tiempo. It appears to this uninformed person that ur avoiding ur issue like my namesake does.
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Apr 7, 2013
 
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>You really, really don't understand , do you?
You are so blinded by your own hatred of conservatives you would mix in christian biblical values to further your liberal and socialist agenda, and then turn right around and blast and debase those same christian values in regards to homosexuality and abortion.
Christian folks might call you a hypocrite, I'll just call you a radical socialist.

The term "it takes a village" is believed to come out of Africa, as it is very similar to other sayings and old hand me downs. Africa, land of great wealth and prosperity. You might like living there.
What pains you so, is that;

Jesus was a flaming "Libtard". A card carrying, bleeding heart, sacrifice for others, give all that you have to the poor, "Libtard".

He expressly taught you had to sacrifice all that you have to help others, especially their children.

The Bible teaches you have the responsibility as a Christian to care and support others, including giving ALL that you have, and that those who acquire great wealth will probably never see Heaven.

Don't blame me that Right Wingers like you profess Anti-Christian propaganda. That Right Wingers enthusiastically deny everything Jesus Christ taught, and oppose the main goals of Christianity. That ain't my fault - if you don't like it - blame Jesus Christ. I didn't write the Bible - but at least I read it.

Blame yourself for being so Anti-Christian. At least radical Muslims are honest about the contempt they have for Christianity - Right Wingers hypocritically pretend to be the very thing they despise.

Damn, read the New Testament and then tell me Jusus didn't teach "It takes a village". If you still believe it doesn't, try reading a version printed in English, or read it when you are sober.

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u made many posts over the last few days so u had mucho tiempo. It appears to this uninformed person that ur avoiding ur issue like my namesake does.
+1 LMAO. Thanks for your "support", I think...

Yep, he/she has had plenty of time to document his/her "plan". But, since there isn't one, he/she has to change the focus like a politician would. He/she has done this many times (as many names) in the Douglasville forum if you ever look in those threads.

Not surprising.
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Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>What pains you so, is that;

Jesus was a flaming "Libtard". A card carrying, bleeding heart, sacrifice for others, give all that you have to the poor, "Libtard".

He expressly taught you had to sacrifice all that you have to help others, especially their children.

The Bible teaches you have the responsibility as a Christian to care and support others, including giving ALL that you have, and that those who acquire great wealth will probably never see Heaven.

Don't blame me that Right Wingers like you profess Anti-Christian propaganda. That Right Wingers enthusiastically deny everything Jesus Christ taught, and oppose the main goals of Christianity. That ain't my fault - if you don't like it - blame Jesus Christ. I didn't write the Bible - but at least I read it.

Blame yourself for being so Anti-Christian. At least radical Muslims are honest about the contempt they have for Christianity - Right Wingers hypocritically pretend to be the very thing they despise.

Damn, read the New Testament and then tell me Jusus didn't teach "It takes a village". If you still believe it doesn't, try reading a version printed in English, or read it when you are sober.
Matthew 25: 31-46

"When I, the Messiah, shall come in glory, and all the angels with me, then I shall sit upon my throne of glory. And all the nations shall be gathered before me. And I will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and place the sheep at my right hand, and the goats at my left.
Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, "Come, blessed of my Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. For I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water; I was a stranger and you invited me into your homes; naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison, and you visited me."
Then these righteous ones will reply, "Sir, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink? Or a stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you? When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?" And I, the King, will tell them, "When you did it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!"
Then I will turn to those on my left and say, "Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. For I was hungry and you wouldn't feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn't give me anything to drink; a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and you wouldn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me."
Then they will reply, "Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?"
And I will answer, "When you refused to help the least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me." And they shall go away into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life."

Yep, it's cant be that Right Wing beliefs are Anti-Christian - it must be that I "hate" Right Wingers.

Man, am I good, 2000 years ago I stuck all that stuff in the Bible just to cover for my "hatred".

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u made many posts over the last few days so u had mucho tiempo. It appears to this uninformed person that ur avoiding ur issue like my namesake does.
It wasn't about mucho tiempo. I was about excessive @zzholishness. He's got it.

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Informed Opinion wrote:
OK
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It's a basic tenent of Christian theology that during a baptism the sponsors pledge to raise the child as a Christian, and the Congregation pledges to help the parents and the child raise the kid.
This ain't rocket science. That's the whole concept of "It takes a village". Just Google "It takes a village" and baptism and find 6,296 hits for Gid's sake (Pun intended).
Now apologize and try to learn that knowledge and facts are pretty damn easy to find with this newfangled thing called the Internet.
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You continue to dazzle us with your ignorance, that's for sure. Work on your reading comprehension. Every one of those baptismal liturgies refer to spiritually supporting the child and the family as the child grows in FAITH, by prayer, by teaching and by example. They have NOTHING at all to do with material support. Of course, church members help each other in times of need, but that is not what ANY of those sources you listed were talking about.

In fact, the Bible is pretty explicit in restricting charity to those IN NEED. 2 Thess 3 says "For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day,... so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this,...in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule:'The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.'" The key is "unwilling" , NOT unable.

The Old Testament even instructed farmers to not harvest to the ground, but to leave the gleaning so that the widowed and orphaned could go to the field and harvest what was left over in order to have food - that they themselves gathered.

But mercy and charity are encouraged and no one would deny help to those who truly need it, either through illness, disability, short term hardship, etc. But the Left's idea of help is to first, use other people's money and second, enslave people to a system that doles out enough to get by, while discouraging the recipient to actually advance themselves.

Again, look at any study and you will see that Republicans donate more to charity by far than do Democrats. Look at candidates tax returns and see the difference in what Republican candidates donate vs Democrat candidates.(I've listed details before, not repeating it.) Look at a study of the 2008 election - the eight states that gave the most to charity supported McCain, the seven states that donated the least to charity supported Obama.

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Hey Bigdave - you must be referring to post 6288. It's not there. What's up with your disappearing posts?

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I didn't write the Bible - but at least I read it.
I'm glad you read it, now please work on comprehending it, because you are so off base. You appear to be referring mainly to the story of the rich young man who asked Jesus what he must do to attain eternal life. Jesus told him to give all his money to the poor and follow Him. That was never meant as a command for all Christians. Christ looked into the young man's heart and saw that FOR HIM, his wealth was an impediment to giving himself to Christ and the young man walked away sadly. Having money itself is not a problem, it is "the love of money that is a root of all kinds of evil." (2 Tim) There is a HUGE difference.

There is nothing evil in people who have worked hard and achieved success (and who already pay FAR MORE than their FAIR SHARE in taxes) objecting to a bloated, inefficient govt confiscating more and more of their hard earned money just to throw it way on programs that have been demonstrable failures. The War on Poverty - 40 years and $15 trillion later - the poverty rate is EXACTLY the same. Lets give money to women and children whose fathers have died or are not in the picture - result the illegitimacy rate has skyrocketed because the program ENCOURAGES the father to not be in the home. THAT is evil.
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ChicknButt wrote:
Hey Bigdave - you must be referring to post 6288. It's not there. What's up with your disappearing posts?
This is really me but don't expect anymore unregistered by me. They absolutely refuse to let me get a post to you about Russian bombers making practice runs on our missile defense systems in Asia. You can look it up yourself. Its on Drudge and others.

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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I can't pass up a challenge.
Especially one this easy.
It's a basic tenent of Christian theology that during a baptism the sponsors pledge to raise the child as a Christian, and the Congregation pledges to help the parents and the child raise the kid.
This ain't rocket science. That's the whole concept of "It takes a village". Just Google "It takes a village" and baptism and find 6,296 hits for Gid's sake (Pun intended).
Now apologize and try to learn that knowledge and facts are pretty damn easy to find with this newfangled thing called the Internet.
I charge $400 and hour as my ordinary consulting fee - so send a check $80.00 to charity because located these sources in less than 20 minutes.
Here's a link to the Methodist liturgy proving the Christian concept "It takes a Village".
http://www.kintera.org/atf/cf/%257B3482E846-5...
Here's a link to a the Church of England liturgy also reaffirming the idea that "It takes a Village";
http://www.churchofengland.org/media/41165/ci...
Here's a link to a book used in seminaries to train ministers explaining why the concept "It takes a Village" is central to Christian theology:
http://books.google.com/books...
It's available from Church Publishing, Inc. and authored by Ruth Meyers.
Here's another one from the "Christian Resource Institute reminding the congregation of the need for the Christian "Village" to care for the child.
http://www.crivoice.org/infantbaptism.html
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Have one last one.
http://bible.org/article/baby-dedication
Conducting the Ceremony:
Service of Dedication I
Children are a gift from God. Psalm 127:3 proclaims that "Sons are a heritage from the Lord, children a reward from Him." As believers we are called to recognize that children belong first and foremost to God. God in his goodness gives children as gifts to parents. They not only have the awesome responsibility of caring for this gift, but also the wonderful privilege of enjoying the gift. Because children belong to God and are given by grace as gifts to parents, it is only proper and appropriate that children be dedicated back to God.
We are told in 1 Samuel 1 that Hannah presented her son Samuel to the Lord. In Luke 2:22 we read that Mary and Joseph brought their baby Jesus to the temple in Jerusalem ....in order to present him before the Lord.
Accompanying them in making this commitment are (CHILD'S)...
(PARENTS), I call your attention to the commands of God recorded in Holy Scripture. Deuteronomy 6:4-7 tells us:
"Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is....
Ephesians 6:4 says:
"fathers, do not provoke your children to wrath; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord." God's instructions are plain.
(PARENTS), love God with every ounce and fiber of your energy and teach (CHILD) to do the same. As you love God, one another, and (OTHER CHILDREN), you will model before (CHILD) a wonderful love for God that he will want for himself.
(PARENTS), by coming forward before God and his people, do you hereby declare your desire to dedicate yourselves and your (SON/DAUGHTER + CHILD'S NAME) to the Lord? If so, please respond by saying "we do." ("We do.")
Having come freely, I ask now that you enter into the following commitment in the presence of God and his people (Wife hands child to husband as a sign of his spiritual headship in the family). So that (CHILD) may walk in the... Christ as his Savior and Lord?("We do.")
Modeling this kind of love can not be done alone. It requires the help of others. For this reason,(PARENTS) call upon the help of (GODPARENTS). I now direct my questions to you. By coming forward before God and his people, do you hereby declare your desire to help PARENTS fulfill the vow they have just made by becoming (CHILD'S) godparents? If so, please respond by saying "we do." ("We do.")
Having come freely, I ask now that you enter into the following commitment: So that (CHILD) may walk in the abundant life that Christ offers, do you vow by God's help, to encourage, through praise and correction,(PARENTS) in their effort to raise (CHILD) in the fear of the Lord, to uphold them in prayer, and if anything should happen to (PARENTS), to assume responsibility in helping (CHILD) receive our Lord's guidance and instruction?("We do.")
Finally, I ask that the church make a vow as well. There's an old proverb that says "it takes a village to raise a child." Parents have first responsibility. But parents need the help and support of the community. So I direct my questions now to the church. By being present in God's house today, do you hereby declare yourselves to be the children of God because you trust in Jesus Christ alone for the forgiveness of sins and the gift of eternal life? If this is true, please respond by saying "we do." ("We do.")
be faithful to God, and to help teach and train (CHILD) in the ways of the Lord so that he might one day trust him as Savior and Lord? If you accept this responsibility, please respond by saying "we do."
(Dad hands child to pastor for prayer of dedication)
(Presentation of Certificate and Gift)
(May wish to sing dedication hymn)
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