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How should a probation officer treat their client

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Probation

Nicholasville, KY

#1 Jul 1, 2009
Really, no matter the crime or the offense, or the outcome. I think a "client" eventhough considered an offender, should be talked to with respect. If you treat that person on probation with respect, they might turn out okay. If you treat them like they are scum of the earth and they are a seperate "kinda person" (like dirt), then they might just feel like trash and go commit more crimes. Maybe it just creates job security for those officers. I know ppl who work with murderers and they get more respect than the person who was on probation for not paying fines, or writing a bad check.
Nope

Honaker, VA

#2 Jul 1, 2009
Everyone should be shown respect when respect is given. I believe people on probation that shows respect, and wants to get their life straight should be shown respect from ANY probation officer.
Probation

Nicholasville, KY

#3 Jul 1, 2009
That isn't the way it always is. I thought the way a probation officer is suppose to be is to help that person. Instead of judging him/her. The judging was already done. The probation follows. That is the period of a second chance and a fresh start. Instead it was a period of being judged over again for the 1000th time. I was torn down for no reason. And yes, most ppl in that situation is upset. It is a part of griving. Each person grieves differently but they must go through the steps to reach the healing point. That can not be done if the officer rips them to shreds and destroys the start that person was already trying to make. If that person is unclear on something, and that person needed guidance, then it shou;ld be given in a civil manner. Not just let that person go and call it STRIKE 1 when they walked out of the door. I would also like to know what are the person on probation's rights. I have looked, and I can not find any. I did however find the guidelines a probation officer should follow. One of them is to "LISTEN" to the probationere. Make appropriate recommendations, and "guide" them. They are suppose to be a 4 yr. college graduate with a sufficient amount of psychology training. I don't see this display of knowledge. Perhaps with some, not all. They are to help them with resources for employment, housing, food, and what is needed. I also know they are to investigate that person, which is fine. But when a discrepency is found it should be approached logicaly and rationally. Not rip that person down and judge again.
IKnow

Richlands, VA

#4 Jul 1, 2009
They are supposed to treat a person with respect, I know this for a fact. If you feel as if they are not, you can go to their supervisor, and trust me he is a very understanding person and he will speak to them if they are in the wrong. I have been lucky thus far, the officers I have had have been totally respectful, and truly went out of their way to help me. I honestly attribute a great amount of the success I have to one particular officer, she went above and beyond her job to help me be successful. They are not required a 4 yr degree, it is a 2 yr degree. But that is not the important part, home training is!:) Honestly though, the chief officer is a very understanding person and if you feel you have been disrespected go to him and discuss this. Good luck!
Probation

Nicholasville, KY

#6 Jul 1, 2009
You are so unrealistic. This can happen to "Anyone". I was one just like you. And over some stupidity of others...to save their butts, thay made me out to be the bad guy. So I don't say there is anyone to be judging. Just when you think they are deserving of everything they get and a kick in the ankle..well..you don't know what that is until you have been kicked in the ankle unjustly. The only way out is to take what they throw and just shut up. So I am doing that. I am doing community service and being respectful. Just be careful of how you "judge" us. You could be on this side of the fence with no one, absolutely no one to listen to you. To help you. I thought it was getting better. Now I feel like the only way to a peaceful sleep is to just die. Have it over with. I feel sorry for those who done something using poor judgement and where brought up in bad circumstances. They where prob. made to feel like they where crap their whole life and then when you are judged for soemthing and do the time, then when they are out and do probation it starts over again. I never had anyone talk so lowly of me to my face in my life. I can have some compassion for even some of the worst. To endure what I did, being talked to like I was trash. I worked with ppl of all sorts of class. But I treated them all the same and with respect. I seen when you treated the stereotyped "bad" guys with some respect, they really blossomed and changed. Maybe you will get your taste of this side of the fence. I hope you do so you know how to respect everyone as a person.
Boohoo

Abingdon, VA

#7 Jul 1, 2009
Be a man, suck it up.
Let it slide

Nicholasville, KY

#8 Jul 1, 2009
You know "Boo Hoo", you don't have a clue or something. If someone talks to you like you are dirt, can you just sit there and do nothing? Could you let someone do that to you? Or pretend it was your husband or wife. How would you feel?

They are suppose to help the person become a productive member of society again. That's why they are on probation, because they are not a threat to society. Not rip them apart and crap on them.
opinionated

Columbia, SC

#9 Jul 1, 2009
I think probation officers need to keep better eyes on the offenders that were in trouble with drugs you wouldnt believe people i know that have gotten out of jail and gotten right back on drugs mainly because the probation officer tell them when they are going to be drug tested and makes sure they have enough time to get clean. They need more pop up drug tests. I feel that if a person had better probation officers then they would be more afraid to get back on the crap and lower drug users in tazewell county. Probation officers have more control over the drug situation than a lot of other people in the town because they have the chance when they are already off of it, they just need to make sure they don't get back on it.
Exactly

Richlands, VA

#10 Jul 1, 2009
opinionated wrote:
I think probation officers need to keep better eyes on the offenders that were in trouble with drugs you wouldnt believe people i know that have gotten out of jail and gotten right back on drugs mainly because the probation officer tell them when they are going to be drug tested and makes sure they have enough time to get clean. They need more pop up drug tests. I feel that if a person had better probation officers then they would be more afraid to get back on the crap and lower drug users in tazewell county. Probation officers have more control over the drug situation than a lot of other people in the town because they have the chance when they are already off of it, they just need to make sure they don't get back on it.
You aren't at the probation officers office to have tea & cake. Chances are they are sick of seeing probationers abuse the system & thinking they can get away with things. You are there bc you have broken the law, probation is giving you an opportunity so you should be thankful for it. If you had not broken the law you would be treated with more respect, so its your own fault you are in the position you are in. You shouldn't expect people to pity you, chances are John Doe on the street wouldn't think highly of you either.
Let it slide

Nicholasville, KY

#11 Jul 2, 2009
I know all "labeled" offenders cry they are really innocent. I do believe there are a percentage that are. I wont cry innocence because that only causes more judgement. But in no way should an officer look at you in disgust and say "Do you really think you desrve to work there??!!!! " and call your work before telling you that you should talk to them and then get you fired. That is wrong. Then to just continue to ridicule me and degrade me until I almost fell apart. I didn't do anything to deserve that. I maintained my compusure. Then I went home and fell apart. I didn't have an attitude with that officer. She threatened me that I violated my probation when I hadn't. I thought I was going to jail. But the worst was having them talk to me and look at me like I was trash. That was abuse. THey are suppose to help you become better, help you "Keep" a job. I would have talked to my empoloyer. Instead of saying you need to talk to them, they said "You worry to much" then as soon as I left, they called my work and got me fired. I needed that job. I would have talked to them. And for starters I was NOT CONVICTED...only put on probation. So even if I robbed a store and done my time, then was on probation, I still wouldn't have deserved the way I was treated.
Let it slide

Nicholasville, KY

#12 Jul 2, 2009
I am not saying that all officers are that way, that is why I was surprised. I only heard good things about the officers in this region. I don't know why I was treated so badly when the other visits where good. I know too that an offender has less civil rights but they have some. I think that offender deserves to have a copy given to them upon inlisting in the probation program. I will find a list of my rights. No one deserved that. No wonder a percentage of offenders go back to their behaviors, if they are talked to like they are dirt.
nope

Abingdon, VA

#13 Jul 2, 2009
Let it slide wrote:
I am not saying that all officers are that way, that is why I was surprised. I only heard good things about the officers in this region. I don't know why I was treated so badly when the other visits where good. I know too that an offender has less civil rights but they have some. I think that offender deserves to have a copy given to them upon inlisting in the probation program. I will find a list of my rights. No one deserved that. No wonder a percentage of offenders go back to their behaviors, if they are talked to like they are dirt.
If an offender "goes back" to their behaviors it is because they choose to do so. Not because of someone talking to them badly. If they really want to be reformed then the way someone speaks to them or treats them will not be the root cause of them reoffending. You are responsible for your own actions, it is easy to place the blame on someone else & not accept responsibility. We are all not treated great all of the time in all facets of life & it's not an excuse for breaking the law or reoffending.
nope

Abingdon, VA

#14 Jul 2, 2009
Let it slide wrote:
I know all "labeled" offenders cry they are really innocent. I do believe there are a percentage that are. I wont cry innocence because that only causes more judgement. But in no way should an officer look at you in disgust and say "Do you really think you desrve to work there??!!!! " and call your work before telling you that you should talk to them and then get you fired. That is wrong. Then to just continue to ridicule me and degrade me until I almost fell apart. I didn't do anything to deserve that. I maintained my compusure. Then I went home and fell apart. I didn't have an attitude with that officer. She threatened me that I violated my probation when I hadn't. I thought I was going to jail. But the worst was having them talk to me and look at me like I was trash. That was abuse. THey are suppose to help you become better, help you "Keep" a job. I would have talked to my empoloyer. Instead of saying you need to talk to them, they said "You worry to much" then as soon as I left, they called my work and got me fired. I needed that job. I would have talked to them. And for starters I was NOT CONVICTED...only put on probation. So even if I robbed a store and done my time, then was on probation, I still wouldn't have deserved the way I was treated.
I imagine if your employer did not have grounds to fire you they would not have. It just doesn't work that way. And if they didn't have grounds then you should have a beef with them.
angee

Nicholasville, KY

#15 Jul 2, 2009
mine treats me with a steak dinner and a hard on...
Let it slide

Nicholasville, KY

#16 Jul 3, 2009
Well first of all, I am educated enough to know how to act. And that no matter what traumatic thenigs happen you can be resilient and use it as a driving force to do good and better. I am an overachiever, always have been. I have been abused numerous times, beaten, cursed, homeless as a child, povertized and traumatized in many other ways. I didn't let those things get to me. I got an education twice and was a productive member of society. I did get in trouble by others judging me and saving their butts and telling lies on me. They belived it becasue one of them was sleeping with a cop. No matter that, I put that behind me and forgive them by Christ. I was doing good until she spoke to me like I was trash. She talked to me in a way that would prob. be violating how any professional should talk to their client. If I was weaker, I prob. would have killed myself as soon as I left. I have heard so many good things about the officers on how they helped ppl get back in life and be productive. I was in a state of shock. I will commend my lawyer, who was state appointed. She called her, the prob. officer called me back and said "I'm sorry, you didn't violate your probation". I am new to this stuff, I just want to know what rights I do have. Can you be transferred to the sub office in Grundy? I think many of the officers in that office at Claypool hill are related. I don't want to place a grievance or have it corrected, I think it will make it worse. I just want to get through this, do my community service, and pay the fines, and get back to life. And I won't find a job that will make me enough money to make ends meet. That job paid my house payment. I will have to work 3 jobs to replace that one. I may be fofrced to sell my house. The house my son loves. He is only 5 and is secure in his environment.
citizen

Port Republic, VA

#17 Jul 3, 2009
Let it slide wrote:
Well first of all, I am educated enough to know how to act. And that no matter what traumatic thenigs happen you can be resilient and use it as a driving force to do good and better. I am an overachiever, always have been. I have been abused numerous times, beaten, cursed, homeless as a child, povertized and traumatized in many other ways. I didn't let those things get to me. I got an education twice and was a productive member of society. I did get in trouble by others judging me and saving their butts and telling lies on me. They belived it becasue one of them was sleeping with a cop. No matter that, I put that behind me and forgive them by Christ. I was doing good until she spoke to me like I was trash. She talked to me in a way that would prob. be violating how any professional should talk to their client. If I was weaker, I prob. would have killed myself as soon as I left. I have heard so many good things about the officers on how they helped ppl get back in life and be productive. I was in a state of shock. I will commend my lawyer, who was state appointed. She called her, the prob. officer called me back and said "I'm sorry, you didn't violate your probation". I am new to this stuff, I just want to know what rights I do have. Can you be transferred to the sub office in Grundy? I think many of the officers in that office at Claypool hill are related. I don't want to place a grievance or have it corrected, I think it will make it worse. I just want to get through this, do my community service, and pay the fines, and get back to life. And I won't find a job that will make me enough money to make ends meet. That job paid my house payment. I will have to work 3 jobs to replace that one. I may be fofrced to sell my house. The house my son loves. He is only 5 and is secure in his environment.
stop playing the victim and blaming everyone and everything else for your own actions....take responsibility...be accountable and stop whining....
LEt me talk to you

Nicholasville, KY

#18 Jul 4, 2009
Let me talk to you like trash. See if you can hold your compsure. You haven't read the whole story and comprehended clearly. I said I got past the point of saying "innocent"..I was only upset that the officer can just talk to not only me that way, but prob. others. I believe in Karma....it is pointing at you next, right after her. It seems to be keeping a good record lately. I won't waste my time..I am above it. I am above losing my temper, being upset, and wasting my energy. It takes care of itself. Look at what is happening to the Mohons. See what I mean.. Anyway, Karma is looking for you...real soon. Then I will be watching for you to whine. Heck..we might even get to pick up trash together.
Why

Richlands, VA

#19 Jul 5, 2009
LEt me talk to you wrote:
Let me talk to you like trash. See if you can hold your compsure. You haven't read the whole story and comprehended clearly. I said I got past the point of saying "innocent"..I was only upset that the officer can just talk to not only me that way, but prob. others. I believe in Karma....it is pointing at you next, right after her. It seems to be keeping a good record lately. I won't waste my time..I am above it. I am above losing my temper, being upset, and wasting my energy. It takes care of itself. Look at what is happening to the Mohons. See what I mean.. Anyway, Karma is looking for you...real soon. Then I will be watching for you to whine. Heck..we might even get to pick up trash together.
Why ar eyou on here whining about it? If you are as intelligent & such a productive member of society surely you can find out for yourself if qualify to have your probation location changed. You want to be the victem, suck it up & be a man. Do your probation & do as you are told, & count it as one of lifes many lessons.
karma

Nicholasville, KY

#20 Jul 5, 2009
karma. karma. karma. karma. It's looking for you too. I'll save you an orange trash bag.
citizen

United States

#21 Jul 5, 2009
karma wrote:
karma. karma. karma. karma. It's looking for you too. I'll save you an orange trash bag.
sorry dude..but I don't plan to break the law or be in a situation that will get me charges...karma or not...won't get me, oh...cause I won't be there.......thanks anyway..."blamer"

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