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complete report on dr salerian's findings and suspension

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GOODWILL SUPPORTER C

Richlands, VA

#1 Apr 21, 2012
http://www.ncbop.org/PDF/120405SalerianSummar...

THE COMPLETE REPORT ON DR. SALERIAN'S FINDINGS AND SUSPENSION...
Who Are You To Judge

United States

#2 Apr 22, 2012
GOODWILL SUPPORTER C wrote:
http://www.ncbop.org/PDF/12040 5SalerianSummarySuspNoticeCSR. pdf
THE COMPLETE REPORT ON DR. SALERIAN'S FINDINGS AND SUSPENSION...
Does anyone know how to contact dr salerian? I havr left messages at the office but not received a return call. Also, his home number is unpublished.....
GOODWILL SUPPORTER C

Richlands, VA

#3 Apr 23, 2012
no idea...i just found this on google..figured i'd post...keep trying is all i can tell you...
Who Are You To Judge

El Dorado, AR

#4 Apr 23, 2012
GOODWILL SUPPORTER C wrote:
no idea...i just found this on google..figured i'd post...keep trying is all i can tell you...
Thanks.....I have sent numerous emails and left messages with his staff but no return call. If I knew where he lived I would make the 24hr hour trip to Maryland. I habe giben up....been trying for 3the weeks now.
Hey truth and justice

United States

#9 Jun 4, 2012
Me truth and justice, you are full of sh*t if you dont think any of salerians actions afe irresponsible. HE NEvER SCREENED any of his patients to make sure they were in fact taking their medication as prescribed. That right there leaves the door wide open for a patient to sell the drugs for many several thousand dollars on the street. He had a lot of patients from this area, the prescription abuse capital of the usa, drive 6 hours to his office, he was aware of the potential, yet he ne er chose to screen his patients to weed out the ones diverting the drugs for illegal sales on the street. THAT ALONE SHOWS HE DIDNT GI E A SH*T! And you want to defend that? You are crazy! He was prescribing his patients 432mg of oxycodone a day and 80 mg of methadone a day, street price is 1 dollar a mg for either drug, so a person could make 512 dollars a day, 30 days in a month, thats ov er 15,000 dollars a month these ppl could make selling their prescriptions, A FORTUNE! I bust my azz off at work to bring home over 3000 a month doing a strenous labor job. And one of these dopeheads can drive their sorry azz to d.c. and back and make se eral thousands of dollars a month and stay high ALL BECAUSE THIS DOCTOR MADE NO EFFORT TO SCREEN OUT THESE PEOPLE! This doctor was very irresponsible in the way he prescribed narcotics. Say what you want, i personally ha e a family member who is a dopehead and went up their simply to get set up real good, it was a dream for them to get wrote that much, make all that money selling it and stay high all the time. And they spread the word to their dopehead friends and they started going up there and getting wrote also. They all jumped on the wagon because they just had to claim psychological problems and pay 180 cash for the office call and get wrote prescriptions for 15000 dollars worth of narcotics despite the fact they had nothing physiically legit wrong with them to be in pain. YOU TELLING ME THAT DOCTOR WAS NOT A PROBLEM AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE DRUG PROBLEM IN THIS AREA? LMAO! I say you are a CLOWN!!! Cause i personally know of dopeheads going up there for the reason of getting dope! Mr. Dennis Lee was very correct in saying it was a pill mill when seeing this going on, what prosecutor or law enforcement in their right mind wouldn't recognize it as such when they see that going on? Seems to me, you probably one of them that was making a fortune on dr salerian and upset with Mr. Lee, the general public doesn't care one bit about this pill mill being shut down or the dopeheads crying about it because a big thing going on for them got shut down. KUDOS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR SHUTTING A PILL MILL DOWN!!
fool

United States

#10 Jun 4, 2012
Hey truth and justice wrote:
Me truth and justice, you are full of sh*t if you dont think any of salerians actions afe irresponsible. HE NEvER SCREENED any of his patients to make sure they were in fact taking their medication as prescribed. That right there leaves the door wide open for a patient to sell the drugs for many several thousand dollars on the street. He had a lot of patients from this area, the prescription abuse capital of the usa, drive 6 hours to his office, he was aware of the potential, yet he ne er chose to screen his patients to weed out the ones diverting the drugs for illegal sales on the street. THAT ALONE SHOWS HE DIDNT GI E A SH*T! And you want to defend that? You are crazy! He was prescribing his patients 432mg of oxycodone a day and 80 mg of methadone a day, street price is 1 dollar a mg for either drug, so a person could make 512 dollars a day, 30 days in a month, thats ov er 15,000 dollars a month these ppl could make selling their prescriptions, A FORTUNE! I bust my azz off at work to bring home over 3000 a month doing a strenous labor job. And one of these dopeheads can drive their sorry azz to d.c. and back and make se eral thousands of dollars a month and stay high ALL BECAUSE THIS DOCTOR MADE NO EFFORT TO SCREEN OUT THESE PEOPLE! This doctor was very irresponsible in the way he prescribed narcotics. Say what you want, i personally ha e a family member who is a dopehead and went up their simply to get set up real good, it was a dream for them to get wrote that much, make all that money selling it and stay high all the time. And they spread the word to their dopehead friends and they started going up there and getting wrote also. They all jumped on the wagon because they just had to claim psychological problems and pay 180 cash for the office call and get wrote prescriptions for 15000 dollars worth of narcotics despite the fact they had nothing physiically legit wrong with them to be in pain. YOU TELLING ME THAT DOCTOR WAS NOT A PROBLEM AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE DRUG PROBLEM IN THIS AREA? LMAO! I say you are a CLOWN!!! Cause i personally know of dopeheads going up there for the reason of getting dope! Mr. Dennis Lee was very correct in saying it was a pill mill when seeing this going on, what prosecutor or law enforcement in their right mind wouldn't recognize it as such when they see that going on? Seems to me, you probably one of them that was making a fortune on dr salerian and upset with Mr. Lee, the general public doesn't care one bit about this pill mill being shut down or the dopeheads crying about it because a big thing going on for them got shut down. KUDOS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR SHUTTING A PILL MILL DOWN!!
.....you, like many are missing the point, blinded and emotional as you are, I am saying its not a doctors responsibility to do police work, I'm not going too explain or try and get you to see what you obviously will never get, till it knocks on your door, stopping one doctor will not solve your towns drug problem, it is merely a symptom of a greater problem, I was addressing a previous post, not your bitching azz, whiny pussy, blah, blah, oh, I work so hard BS, join the fn club, your not the only one, get over it, called life, if it wasn't for those you support, these criminals wouldn't have the opportunity to make these crazy amounts of money, but I'm not materialistic like you, I believe in greater things such as social justice for the suffering and when murder and child abuse is thrown under the rug over this stupid drug war, I see a real problem concerning things such as truth and justice, just saying, obvious were your priorities lay, more concerned that u have to work than if child rapist, murders and the like are unpunished, nice! Why aren't you bitching about those who steal real money from the poor, from you, they make billions off the sweat and broken backs of working poor like you, sell a pill, get life, steal billions, murder, rape children, get less than ten!
Dude

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jun 5, 2012
Who Are You To Judge wrote:
<quoted text>
Damn lady.....you just dont give up telling lies & bashing this doctor do you? You have spread rumors & lies on EVERY site that has this doctor's name mentioned. Where's your proof of all these lies? PLEASE show me some proof of the following:
1) the 2 wrongful death lawsuits that have been filed due to DEATH from over prescribing-(this is NOT true)
2)several other doctors said they would testify to support the suspension (this is NOT true)
3)the DEA raided his home &my office taking patients medical records ( this is definitely NOT true)
4)patients that were visited by the DEA investigators (again NOT true)
Remember what I told you on another forum about defamation? Each and every comment on this forum can be traced back to the computer they originated from. Charges can be brought against you for intentionally damaging a person's reputation and/or making up lies and spreading rumors. I am trying to be considerate and explain to you the consequences for posting untrue statements. Please take this as a friendly warning and reminder. I have heard that restitution payments can be quite steep for damaging someone's character like you have been doing. Have a blessed day.
Dr. Salerian raided by DEA Agents:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/28/is-th...

"On 3 March 2011, his home in Bethesda, Maryland, where I have stayed during visits with Alen and his wife, Judy, was raided by a heavily armed force of DEA agents wearing bullet-proof vests and brandishing automatic weapons, who intimidated his wife and daughter, Chloe, ransacking his home and taking his computers on the fabricated ground that his bank account reflected a $100,000 transaction, which was for medical equipment but which the agents claimed was for dealing drugs, which is quite a stretch for a man who was the Chief Psychiatrist for the FBI."

The DEA also collected his prescription log books. How do you think they knew in the complaint how much medication he was prescribing his patients? Look at the complaint in the link below.

http://www.ncbop.org/PDF/120405SalerianSummar...
The official complaint, page 6 last paragraph:

Medical Professionals files complaints against Dr. Salerian
The Department of Health received 4 complaints for over prescribing medication
.
1. Complaint from a pharmacist
2. Complaint from Dr. Michael Fratkin a Hospice and Palliative Medicine Specialist
3. Complaint from Dr. David Katz a Neuro-Ophthalmologist
4. Complaint from Shane Miller Pharm-D

Civil cases filed against Dr. Salerian
The official complaint, page 7 first paragraph:
The Department of Health is aware of AT LEAST 3 civil court cases filed against Dr. Salerian.
1 case resulting in death (wrongful death)
2 cases resulting in bodily injury

There is a newspaper article from a Newspaper in North Carolina that states a local doctor and a pharmacist complained about Dr. Salerian over prescribing medication. You can Google the article yourself!

You have called me a liar before in other posts and I posted proof. You call me a liar here again and I post proof. The only liar I see is you! You have said you get your medication from another doctor so it does not matter if Dr. Salerian can write your prescriptions or not, right, I say you are full of crap! If you were getting your meds already you would not be complaining so much. I can prove everything I have said, can you?

I will do my best to find the people that filed civil cases against Dr. Salerian and tell them to read these posts on topix. I made copies of all the posts in case some get deleted. Maybe they will track you down because you seem to know so much about Dr. Salerian practice and provide some information that will assist them with their case.
Hey truth and justice

United States

#13 Jun 5, 2012
Explain to me how a doctor can prescribe 432mg a day and 80mg a day to a person with obsessi e compulsive disorder and anxiety? Thays exactly what salerian done. JUSTIFY THAT FOR ME WHY DONT YOU? You ne er address that , you always sidestep it because it can't be justified. War on drugs, oh boo hoo, i agree some of it goes too far, but when o er 80 percent of crime in this area is committed for a pill, you gotta do something as a law enforcement officer, shuttin this pill mill down is certainly a top priority you azzhole
trollhater

Hoffman Forest, NC

#14 Jun 5, 2012
Hey truth and justice wrote:
Explain to me how a doctor can prescribe 432mg a day and 80mg a day to a person with obsessi e compulsive disorder and anxiety? Thays exactly what salerian done. JUSTIFY THAT FOR ME WHY DONT YOU? You ne er address that , you always sidestep it because it can't be justified. War on drugs, oh boo hoo, i agree some of it goes too far, but when o er 80 percent of crime in this area is committed for a pill, you gotta do something as a law enforcement officer, shuttin this pill mill down is certainly a top priority you azzhole
...funny you ignore issue that are starting to piss people off, such as real major crime taking place, but not addressed by Lee, are you too blind also, to say this made up drug problem, always been there, should be top priority says it all, crime rates are a result of this policy, dumb fukk, not the other way around, who cares about this doctor, your just using his case for effect, your just trolling, if you have no solutions in your argument, then your just as much a part of the problem...
Who Are You To Judge

United States

#15 Jun 5, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Salerian raided by DEA Agents:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/28/is-th...
"On 3 March 2011, his home in Bethesda, Maryland, where I have stayed during visits with Alen and his wife, Judy, was raided by a heavily armed forcey of DEA agents wearing bullet-proof vests and brandishing automatic weapons, who intimidated his wife and daughter, Chloe, ransacking his home and taking his computers on the fabricated ground that his bank account reflected a $100,000 transaction, which was for medical equipment but which the agents claimed was for dealing drugs, which is quite a stretch for a man who was the Chief Psychiatrist for the FBI."
The DEA also collected his prescription log books. How do you think they knew in the complaint how much medication he was prescribing his patients? Look at the complaint in the link below.
http://www.ncbop.org/PDF/120405SalerianSummar...
The official complaint, page 6 last paragraph:
Medical Professionals files complaints against Dr. Salerian
The Department of Health received 4 complaints for over prescribing medication
.
1. Complaint from a pharmacist
2. Complaint from Dr. Michael Fratkin a Hospice and Palliative Medicine Specialist
3. Complaint from Dr. David Katz a Neuro-Ophthalmologist
4. Complaint from Shane Miller Pharm-D

AND THE REST OF YOUR BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLCRAP
You are a freakin idiot......this is very OLD news. MARCH 2011??? All that shit was dismissed. Why are you wasting your time printing comments of other people's OPINIONS anyway? As for the lawsuits against him....they were just that. I can go out here and sue anyone I want for anything. Just because someone is taking a civul suit against him doesn't mean that #1-the doctor is guilty of anything and #2-that person is being honest. You think u are so intelligent. Keep talking cause the more you talk the more stupid you are making yourself look.....also you didnt continue with the paragraph for the March 20112011 incident. Did you continue reading where the author writing the article disagreed with how the doctor was treated?? No1 had any evidence for anything and busted thru that poor man's house without ANY oroof. Yeah they took his log books, but they didn't have permission or the authority to do so....in your 1st post u stated all of this information like it eas new news that recently happened. This is old shit! DISMISSED DISMISSED DISMISSED......U WANT TO DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATING?? Well look up pharmacist Shane Miller and let me know how you think the courts can use him as a credible witness? Also, you said u had 2 friends thar are patients of his and they told u the DEA came knocking on their doors- LIAR Also, u said u are a nurse w/ 17yrs experience in hospice- LIAR Lastly u posted recent comments saying that RECENTLY his home &the office was raided- ANOTHER LIE. The only information u have is OLD news and hearsay about shit that has already been made public knowledge. Stop acting like u are someone important and carry your lies elsewhere. FYI- people are interested in new NEWS, not old news that shit is irrelevant. And as far as someone "finding" me. BELIEVE ME.....anyone posting comments on the internet CAN be found. All it takes is a computer wiz and some free time on your hands or there is always another route and thats called LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! You are the biggest liar in this forum and u think you are all high & mighty....in my opinion you are just a pissant. Now stand still for a minute and let me squash you with my shoe PISSANT...Get lost!!
Who Are You To Judge

United States

#16 Jun 5, 2012
Hey truth and justice wrote:
Explain to me how a doctor can prescribe 432mg a day and 80mg a day to a person with obsessi e compulsive disorder and anxiety? Thays exactly what salerian done. JUSTIFY THAT FOR ME WHY DONT YOU? You ne er address that , you always sidestep it because it can't be justified. War on drugs, oh boo hoo, i agree some of it goes too far, but when o er 80 percent of crime in this area is committed for a pill, you gotta do something as a law enforcement officer, shuttin this pill mill down is certainly a top priority you azzhole
First and foremost.....LEARN TO SPELL & USE GRAMMAR APPROPRIATELY. Secondly, why do you care what everyone is doing with their lives? Huh, why? How is someone else's personal choices affecting you? They aren't so why are you being a busy body and nosey getting into someone else's personal business?

***PS-most computers have spell check buddy. As far as your grammar....well I can't help you with that***
Who Are You To Judge

United States

#17 Jun 5, 2012
trollhater wrote:
<quoted text>...funny you ignore issue that are starting to piss people off, such as real major crime taking place, but not addressed by Lee, are you too blind also, to say this made up drug problem, always been there, should be top priority says it all, crime rates are a result of this policy, dumb fukk, not the other way around, who cares about this doctor, your just using his case for effect, your just trolling, if you have no solutions in your argument, then your just as much a part of the problem...
In all honesty I am not from around your area and never heard of this Mr Lee guy until people starting posting comments about him. Sounds like he is a real piece of crap. What I dont understand is how he has the authority to complain to the extent to have this doctors prescribing license temp suspended? He is 6-8the hours away. I agree he should worry about his iwn community and putting away the hard core criminals like the child molesters, murderers, and rapists. If he is hated so much then why is he still in office? Cant he be voted out if he isn't carrying out his duties &the responsibilities of his own community? I am not sure how that works but if my local prosecutor were doing some of the things people are saying he's doing I would be filing complaints and get the hole community to do the same and get his butt outta that position. Get him out if there ASAP!!! This is just my opinion.....if others get involved maybe a change will happen. God bless!
ican

Cedar Bluff, VA

#20 Jun 7, 2012
I can explain Salerian writing someone that much meds for OCD, bipolar, anf anxiety. First is because oxycodone and methadone are better than antidepressants for these conditions. Opiates were used as antidepressants and worked far better until the 1960's. They have a chemical that is known to be a better receptor for people that suffer these conditions. 2nd what is the difference in being on this much if these meds than being on 300 mg of Anafranil and 200 of Zoloft for these conditions. I will tell you. Anafranil was banned in the US until 1996 because of its potential for liver failer. Methadone and oxycodone is not harmful to your liver. The acetaminophen in percocet is what is harmful not the oxycodone. 3rd maybe one day you will have these conditions in such a bad way and can get no help. Good luck with your antidepressants, tgey don't help. Most cases of methadone being lethal is when taken with numerous xanax which you are told not to take them together but in small doses. The fact is you don't know what your talking about idiot in the last post. Also the words Pill Mill is a joke. When you say those words you sound like a Fool!!!! Good luck in your war on drugs!! Ket me guess you are a nurse too. Lol!! Haahaa. Like I said since I live a horrible lifestyle now I will sign up in my disability so you can keep me up. I was doing great on my meds and now I'm not. Go agead and comment I don't care. Just remember you are working your butt off now because I can't work now due to my meds being taken away. Now I hope you find that funny!!
Who Are You To Judge

United States

#21 Jun 8, 2012
ican wrote:
I can explain Salerian writing someone that much meds for OCD, bipolar, anf anxiety. First is because oxycodone and methadone are better than antidepressants for these conditions. Opiates were used as antidepressants and worked far better until the 1960's. They have a chemical that is known to be a better receptor for people that suffer these conditions. 2nd what is the difference in being on this much if these meds than being on 300 mg of Anafranil and 200 of Zoloft for these conditions. I will tell you. Anafranil was banned in the US until 1996 because of its potential for liver failer. Methadone and oxycodone is not harmful to your liver. The acetaminophen in percocet is what is harmful not the oxycodone. 3rd maybe one day you will have these conditions in such a bad way and can get no help. Good luck with your antidepressants, tgey don't help. Most cases of methadone being lethal is when taken with numerous xanax which you are told not to take them together but in small doses. The fact is you don't know what your talking about idiot in the last post. Also the words Pill Mill is a joke. When you say those words you sound like a Fool!!!! Good luck in your war on drugs!! Ket me guess you are a nurse too. Lol!! Haahaa. Like I said since I live a horrible lifestyle now I will sign up in my disability so you can keep me up. I was doing great on my meds and now I'm not. Go ahead and comment I don't care. Just remember you are working your butt off now because I can't work now due to my meds being taken away. Now I hope you find that funny!!
VERY WELL SPOKEN, EXCELLENT CHOICE IF WORDS!!!!!!! I totally agree with you and I am sure many others do as well. I hope &pray either the doctor will be reinstated or you are able to find another doctor that can help. If you don't mind, i would love copy your post and paste it on all of the other forums that have been started about this doctor. You posted alot of interesting information.
truth and justice

Cleveland, TN

#22 Jun 8, 2012
ican wrote:
I can explain Salerian writing someone that much meds for OCD, bipolar, anf anxiety. First is because oxycodone and methadone are better than antidepressants for these conditions. Opiates were used as antidepressants and worked far better until the 1960's. They have a chemical that is known to be a better receptor for people that suffer these conditions. 2nd what is the difference in being on this much if these meds than being on 300 mg of Anafranil and 200 of Zoloft for these conditions. I will tell you. Anafranil was banned in the US until 1996 because of its potential for liver failer. Methadone and oxycodone is not harmful to your liver. The acetaminophen in percocet is what is harmful not the oxycodone. 3rd maybe one day you will have these conditions in such a bad way and can get no help. Good luck with your antidepressants, tgey don't help. Most cases of methadone being lethal is when taken with numerous xanax which you are told not to take them together but in small doses. The fact is you don't know what your talking about idiot in the last post. Also the words Pill Mill is a joke. When you say those words you sound like a Fool!!!! Good luck in your war on drugs!! Ket me guess you are a nurse too. Lol!! Haahaa. Like I said since I live a horrible lifestyle now I will sign up in my disability so you can keep me up. I was doing great on my meds and now I'm not. Go agead and comment I don't care. Just remember you are working your butt off now because I can't work now due to my meds being taken away. Now I hope you find that funny!!
....nice post!
ican

United States

#23 Jun 8, 2012
I would rather you didn't post this on the other forums. I should have worded some things differently. I'm not sure if the one medicine was banned or just not used very much because of its horrible side effects. I dont want someone coming at me for saying false things about some medicine because I didn't research it properly. But this OCD makes me worry about every little petty thing. I do know the dose of these I was on was more than usually given. Also my liver had to be monitored weekly because of high liver enzymes from certain meds. After taking some of the opiates they did a better job and I never had problems again till now. You see there are horrible forms of anxiety and OCD that cause a persin to live a horrible lifestyle. I just pray that noone else has to go through this especially when there are meds that help and they get taken away. I am going to have to do something because I cant work now. I cant even hardley leave my home without being a mess from these conditions. I will go back and find dates and I do apologize if something I said was not correct. I do know what helped and it was not the antidepressants. Thanks.
truth and justice

Cleveland, TN

#24 Jun 8, 2012
ican wrote:
I would rather you didn't post this on the other forums. I should have worded some things differently. I'm not sure if the one medicine was banned or just not used very much because of its horrible side effects. I dont want someone coming at me for saying false things about some medicine because I didn't research it properly. But this OCD makes me worry about every little petty thing. I do know the dose of these I was on was more than usually given. Also my liver had to be monitored weekly because of high liver enzymes from certain meds. After taking some of the opiates they did a better job and I never had problems again till now. You see there are horrible forms of anxiety and OCD that cause a persin to live a horrible lifestyle. I just pray that noone else has to go through this especially when there are meds that help and they get taken away. I am going to have to do something because I cant work now. I cant even hardley leave my home without being a mess from these conditions. I will go back and find dates and I do apologize if something I said was not correct. I do know what helped and it was not the antidepressants. Thanks.
... You where pretty much correct in your original post, not many know that opiates have been and are used in certain situations as your, it's just that the ones who abuse and sell their meds are creating this problem of lack of treatment along with the government's crazy policies used in their "war" on drugs that is causing extreme suffering, huge costs that is destroying our economy and worst of all, it puts it in the control of drug lords, who could care less about quality and control, causing real wars of death and destruction in the the black markets created by this war. The demand will always be their and as anyone with economic knowledge would tell you, when their is a demand for a product, regardless of what it is, their will always be a market, it's up to us to decide how this market should operate, regulation and control or drug cartels and their billion dollar drug lords, I prefer some type of control and regulation system which would totally wipe out these black markets of deal and crime. I know you condition is terrible and your suffering is no different than any other type of suffering and in this day and age, with meds we have that work, is criminal and morally wrong, I could care less about the other issues involved, it is a seperate and sad issue in itself, I am talking about legit suffering, which should not exist. We have two substances that kills more than all combined illegal and legal pharmaceuticals deaths and alcohol is the most dangerous drug out their, up their with heroin and cocaine, yet we, in society, say it's ok and is accepted, no problem, but someone who suffers in pain is ostracized and made out as drug addicts and lowlifes making it very hard to get treatment. I agree that some needed to be punished, but then those who were doing right and really suffered terribly just got cut off with no warning, no way to get help, putting them in a true hell of withdraw which is pure evil and how any doctors who signed an oath can sleep at night is beyond me and tells me why they became doctors in the first place, pure greed which is all about the big dollar. The real doctors are the ones who help the poor, the suffering, the ones who go to war zones and third world countries (such as Doctors with no Borders) these are the true good doctors from around the world, the ones (not all) around here are mostly about the money, period! I am sorry for your suffering and hope you find help and some kind of inner peace in this short time we have on this earth. May peace and love be your constant companions in this life. Good luck!
Hey who r u to judge

Washington, DC

#25 Jun 8, 2012
truth and justice wrote:
<quoted text>... You where pretty much correct in your original post, not many know that opiates have been and are used in certain situations as your, it's just that the ones who abuse and sell their meds are creating this problem of lack of treatment along with the government's crazy policies used in their "war" on drugs that is causing extreme suffering, huge costs that is destroying our economy and worst of all, it puts it in the control of drug lords, who could care less about quality and control, causing real wars of death and destruction in the the black markets created by this war. The demand will always be their and as anyone with economic knowledge would tell you, when their is a demand for a product, regardless of what it is, their will always be a market, it's up to us to decide how this market should operate, regulation and control or drug cartels and their billion dollar drug lords, I prefer some type of control and regulation system which would totally wipe out these black markets of deal and crime. I know you condition is terrible and your suffering is no different than any other type of suffering and in this day and age, with meds we have that work, is criminal and morally wrong, I could care less about the other issues involved, it is a seperate and sad issue in itself, I am talking about legit suffering, which should not exist. We have two substances that kills more than all combined illegal and legal pharmaceuticals deaths and alcohol is the most dangerous drug out their, up their with heroin and cocaine, yet we, in society, say it's ok and is accepted, no problem, but someone who suffers in pain is ostracized and made out as drug addicts and lowlifes making it very hard to get treatment. I agree that some needed to be punished, but then those who were doing right and really suffered terribly just got cut off with no warning, no way to get help, putting them in a true hell of withdraw which is pure evil and how any doctors who signed an oath can sleep at night is beyond me and tells me why they became doctors in the first place, pure greed which is all about the big dollar. The real doctors are the ones who help the poor, the suffering, the ones who go to war zones and third world countries (such as Doctors with no Borders) these are the true good doctors from around the world, the ones (not all) around here are mostly about the money, period! I am sorry for your suffering and hope you find help and some kind of inner peace in this short time we have on this earth. May peace and love be your constant companions in this life. Good luck!
For once i will agree with everything you said in this post. I just wanted to make the point dr salerian is responsible foor doing a better job of screening out the bad ones, especially if not only for co ering his azz due to the war on drugs. Just too many bad ones got through there cause he wasnt doing a good enough job of weeding them out
Who Are You To Judge

United States

#26 Jun 8, 2012
ican wrote:
I would rather you didn't post this on the other forums. I should have worded some things differently. I'm not sure if the one medicine was banned or just not used very much because of its horrible side effects. I dont want someone coming at me for saying false things about some medicine because I didn't research it properly. But this OCD makes me worry about every little petty thing. I do know the dose of these I was on was more than usually given. Also my liver had to be monitored weekly because of high liver enzymes from certain meds. After taking some of the opiates they did a better job and I never had problems again till now. You see there are horrible forms of anxiety and OCD that cause a persin to live a horrible lifestyle. I just pray that noone else has to go through this especially when there are meds that help and they get taken away. I am going to have to do something because I cant work now. I cant even hardley leave my home without being a mess from these conditions. I will go back and find dates and I do apologize if something I said was not correct. I do know what helped and it was not the antidepressants. Thanks.
I can respect that.....but in my opinion you were right on. I can underatand what you are going thru and my heart goes out to you. The dates are not very important....its the point u were trying to get acrossmy and you were right on. I understand also about you being worried posting inaccurate information cause some of these people are just waiting to see someone make a mistake so they can call you a liar or criticize you. I have tried every antidepressant out there and everything I have tried they made me even more depressed.....I know some people wont understand that but with me its true. From going to paxil, prozac, zoloft, anatryptaline, and MANY MANY more they messed me up. I became so severely depressed almost to the point of being suicidal when taking Wellbutrin and Paxil that I was just ready to give up. I was not going to see Salerian in the beginning for depression but after he started treating me with methadone/oxycodone I was a new person. It does wotk for depression. And it works better than any of these so called FDA medications approved to treat depression.....
..hopefully Salerian will get his license back soon. I have said a little prayer every night in hopes that someone up above is listening and will look iut for all of us. I think all of us should take a trip to DC and make ourselves heard. There is power in numbers!!!
saysax

Lorton, VA

#27 Jun 9, 2012
I was a patient of Dr.Salerians, too. I have had several back surgeries, self-employed, and no where to go.
The only crime I see, is like my partner Sally says, is "you asked for the meds, took them, and Dr.Salerian didnt force you"
I was on 400 mil of OXY a day, and could have refused it. When I ran out overseas, the incredible HELL of withdrawals and pain I went through told me to stop. So I asked Salerian for something else and he prescribed Methadone.120ml a day. I usually actually took 50-60 ml a day, and saved the rest, stretching them out, so I could save $$$.He never questioned why I used less of the meds--I guess he knew it was a $$ issue.
The ONLY thing I am upset about is that he didn't refer us to another doctor. I showed up for my appt.(I drive 2 hrs--live in West Virginia) and no one was there. I NEED a doctor, and even with the "low" doses of methadone, I am experiencing pain and withdrawals.
Also, I know that his big heart gave to people that really used him, and he was very naive.
[email protected] if anyone can help. Thank you, it was not ALL his fault

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