Mother indicted on manslaughter charg...

Mother indicted on manslaughter charges after death of baby

There are 35 comments on the Clinch Valley News story from Sep 25, 2012, titled Mother indicted on manslaughter charges after death of baby. In it, Clinch Valley News reports that:

The Sept. 11 session of grand jury indicted Karen Ann Elder of Richlands on a charge of involuntary manslaughter.

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poopingcrow

Ivor, VA

#1 Sep 25, 2012
So I really don't know what to say about this, but I thought the guy had beat her so bad that it had something to do with the death of the baby, I didn't think she did anything to hurt it
ArewestilUSA

United States

#2 Sep 29, 2012
I just dont get how 1 lady can be charged when its an epidemic in TAZEWELL CO VA. I know you have to start somewhere but I always thought that was by making a law then passing it then if you break it your gone. I'm glad somebody took a stand for these poor babies, but since when did we pass a law to single 1 lady out.
howie

Abingdon, VA

#3 Oct 9, 2012
about time
Sad

Lexington, NC

#4 Oct 9, 2012
I wonder if the autopsy shows that drugs is for sure the reason the baby died? They must have a very strong case against her. I'm glad though that finally these women are being punished for doing drugs while pregnant. The babies that live suffer so much withdrawing. I don't like to judge anyone for being an addict but for Gods sake don't get pregnant, or if they do QUIT. God have mercy on all this babies born into addiction.
Dan Hallen

North Tazewell, VA

#5 Oct 9, 2012
Since they arrested this lady 3 more have died under similar conditions at RlAnds hospital . I wonder if they will charge these three??
Sad

Lexington, NC

#6 Oct 9, 2012
Dan Hallen wrote:
Since they arrested this lady 3 more have died under similar conditions at RlAnds hospital . I wonder if they will charge these three??
Three babies have died since this? That is so sad.
Dan Hallen

North Tazewell, VA

#7 Oct 9, 2012
3 more term babies didn't make it. I know atleast one has been sent for autopsie. It's all very sad .
mad mom

Columbia, SC

#8 Oct 9, 2012
I would guess once the baby was born alive it died from drugs SHE put in it's little body and therefore her actions killed a living baby. If it died before birth probably nothing would have ever been done. More babies are dying from drugs every day. She may be the first to be charged, but all of us need to push law enforcement and the hospitals, doctors and our gov officials to report and prosecute EVERY mom who does this to an innocent baby. Make it so every time an addict finds out she is pregnant she will be scared to death not to get clean. No exceptions. Either get into treatment or loose your baby and any other kids until you can stay clean. Demand real treatment centers that gets them off the junk and not the pill mills we have who just gives more and more methadone or whatever with no intention of weaning them off. People, let's all GET MAD, make these moms suffer if they refuse help. Their babies endure pain and suffering that most adults could never imagine. She may have been the first to be prosecuted but lets make sure every mother who has an addicted baby leaves the hospital in handcuffs while that poor baby is in there suffering. Sorry it sounds so cold but it is the only way these babies will have a chance.
Sad

Lexington, NC

#9 Oct 9, 2012
mad mom wrote:
I would guess once the baby was born alive it died from drugs SHE put in it's little body and therefore her actions killed a living baby. If it died before birth probably nothing would have ever been done. More babies are dying from drugs every day. She may be the first to be charged, but all of us need to push law enforcement and the hospitals, doctors and our gov officials to report and prosecute EVERY mom who does this to an innocent baby. Make it so every time an addict finds out she is pregnant she will be scared to death not to get clean. No exceptions. Either get into treatment or loose your baby and any other kids until you can stay clean. Demand real treatment centers that gets them off the junk and not the pill mills we have who just gives more and more methadone or whatever with no intention of weaning them off. People, let's all GET MAD, make these moms suffer if they refuse help. Their babies endure pain and suffering that most adults could never imagine. She may have been the first to be prosecuted but lets make sure every mother who has an addicted baby leaves the hospital in handcuffs while that poor baby is in there suffering. Sorry it sounds so cold but it is the only way these babies will have a chance.
Amen...
drug test

Greenbackville, VA

#10 Oct 10, 2012
I think all pregnant women should be drug tested and if they are postivd for drugs then they need to put them in a home specifically for women on drugs while pregnant and keep them till the baby is born so they can ensure they get media al help and get off drugs while preg and then the baby be turned over to child services for the first couple months to ensure that the mother will.keep clean and make away to get her baby brought home, u am sorry but at least we would have ALOT OF BANIES SAVED THAT WAY!!
sandra casey

Cedar Bluff, VA

#11 Oct 10, 2012
Dan Hallen wrote:
Since they arrested this lady 3 more have died under similar conditions at RlAnds hospital . I wonder if they will charge these three??
I doubt that anything will be done to these others
sandra casey

Cedar Bluff, VA

#12 Oct 10, 2012
drug test wrote:
I think all pregnant women should be drug tested and if they are postivd for drugs then they need to put them in a home specifically for women on drugs while pregnant and keep them till the baby is born so they can ensure they get media al help and get off drugs while preg and then the baby be turned over to child services for the first couple months to ensure that the mother will.keep clean and make away to get her baby brought home, u am sorry but at least we would have ALOT OF BANIES SAVED THAT WAY!!
I feel the same way they need help Ann does not deserve to be locked away
Just Me

Cedar Bluff, VA

#13 Oct 11, 2012
sandra casey wrote:
<quoted text>I feel the same way they need help Ann does not deserve to be locked away
Ann does not deserve to be locked away?? Well that innocent baby didn't deserve to die either you idiot!!!
bee

United States

#14 Oct 11, 2012
I agree with you just me .
Dan Hallen

North Tazewell, VA

#15 Oct 11, 2012
I think it's all very sad.
bee

United States

#16 Oct 11, 2012
Yes it is dan
Dan Hallen

North Tazewell, VA

#17 Oct 11, 2012
I would hope that the well being of our children was put above and beyond any and everything else. I would like to see these women get help. I would like to see these babies get a chance . There are programs that are 95% sucsessfull!It should be mandatory that a addicted pregnant woman get this treatment !
So True

Lexington, NC

#18 Oct 12, 2012
sandra casey wrote:
<quoted text>I feel the same way they need help Ann does not deserve to be locked away
What do you suggest they do with her? Do you have kids? How would you feel if Ann gave your kids drugs? She gave her OWN baby drugs and she knew exactly what she was doing. I don't know her but I think she should be charged with murder and any other woman who brings a baby into this world addicted to drugs. I'm an addict and my life is a mess. I live in hell withdrawing and chasing that pill. I KNOW how bad drugs effects you and Ann knows too. I wouldn't wish this on anybody muchless my own child.
Just Me

Cedar Bluff, VA

#19 Oct 13, 2012
So True wrote:
<quoted text>What do you suggest they do with her? Do you have kids? How would you feel if Ann gave your kids drugs? She gave her OWN baby drugs and she knew exactly what she was doing. I don't know her but I think she should be charged with murder and any other woman who brings a baby into this world addicted to drugs. I'm an addict and my life is a mess. I live in hell withdrawing and chasing that pill. I KNOW how bad drugs effects you and Ann knows too. I wouldn't wish this on anybody muchless my own child.
finally someone that KNOWS what they are talking about and will admit it is just WRONG. AND THERE'S IS NO EXCUSE FOR HER KILLING THIS CHILD!!!
Just Me

Cedar Bluff, VA

#20 Oct 13, 2012
poopingcrow wrote:
So I really don't know what to say about this, but I thought the guy had beat her so bad that it had something to do with the death of the baby, I didn't think she did anything to hurt it
I hear he beat the hell out of her the day her water broke (24 hours before she would even agree to go to the hospital) I know they were looking into pressing charges on the low life MR.Jackson but I'm quiet sure she lied on the stand under oath for him again about hitting her like she has every other man, every other time that has beat the hell out of her.. Plain ole stupid

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