Urge the EPA to curb soot pollution now

[Action Network]

http://ran.org/act/sootpollution/...

Soot is one of the most dangerous types of air pollution dumped into our atmosphere by the burning of coal for energy. Soot pollution plays a huge role in the more than 13,000 premature deaths caused by heart and respiratory diseases linked to coal-fired power plants every year.

Reducing soot pollution would protect the environment, improve public health, and save billions of dollars in health care costs. Which is why the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed stronger air quality standards to control soot pollution. Urge the EPA to adopt these standards now.

Predictably, the industries that dump all this soot pollution into our air are pushing back against these standards. For them, it's all about the bottom line. Their greed is unchecked even in the face of little children suffering from asthma or losing their parents to cancer caused by the pollution the coal industry is deliberately pumping into our air.

Let the EPA know that Americans support the agency's efforts to protect our environment and our health. Please submit a comment in support of stronger standards to control soot pollution by the dealine this Friday, August 31.

http://ran.org/act/sootpollution/...

[sad truth]

screw you and the damn epa soot bill you must not live in this area if you did you no this place lives from coal your the very reason so many are out of work because of these stupid laws the epa dosent have a clue about the coal business nor do you the stupid presedent obamaass uses the epa to do his dirty work and people dont no this but he is behind this epa deal to kill coal the power plants have the scrubbers on them there isnt any soot from them if you go down town richmond va. there are 5 coal fired powerplants that i no of and have been to they are right in downtown so dont give me this bullshit about soot people that live there dont even no they are there only bocks from them because they are so clean burn so take your laws and shove them

[WTF]

sad truth wrote:

screw you and the damn epa soot bill you must not live in this area if you did you no this place lives from coal your the very reason so many are out of work because of these stupid laws the epa dosent have a clue about the coal business nor do you the stupid presedent obamaass uses the epa to do his dirty work and people dont no this but he is behind this epa deal to kill coal the power plants have the scrubbers on them there isnt any soot from them if you go down town richmond va. there are 5 coal fired powerplants that i no of and have been to they are right in downtown so dont give me this bullshit about soot people that live there dont even no they are there only bocks from them because they are so clean burn so take your laws and shove them

Hey sad truth, here is some actual truth. Richmond has 1 coal fired power plant. The Commonwealth of Virginia has a total of 9. Your grammar speaks volumes about you. Not only are you a complete dumbass, you have no idea what you are talking about. See, there is a difference between rhetoric and actual fact. The fact is, the EPA cares about the health of our citizenry, and the quality of the water and air that our children have available. The EPA knows a hell of a lot more about the coal business than you do. The reason coal jobs are being lost is because the demand for coal has been down. When there is not a high demand for a product, there is no reason to bloat the supply just to avoid laying off workers. Low demand translates to lowered production. That is how coal corporations look at it. And if coal is so great for local economies, explain why coal communities in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia are the poorest and most economically depraved areas in those states? That is not a coincidence.

[Anarchist]

the EPA is nothing but a waste of taxpayers money as long as China and other third world countries continue to pollute our Earth unabated.So spew your anti pollution crap to them,you know they are listening. I don't want to hear it until the other countries of the world pitch in.The UN could do us all a favor by promoting this instead of warfare.

[ok ok]

The EPA cares so much that it sent all the first responders into ground zero with no respirators and told them the air was safe. Now they are dying of cancer. The coal plants have scrubbers in the smoke stacks and there is NO soot escaping. They would be shut down immediately if there was. We all know they are dying to shut them down anyway. Obviously you are on the govt ticket and are a brainwashed,fluoride drinking, zanex taking shill.

[sad truth]

your full of shit i have been to all the power plants in richmond to deleiver parts to them so dont give me this bullshit 1 you need to do some fact finding before you speak you must be a epa suckass worker that dont have a clue go back to your desk that you sit at and keep your head stuck up there ass since you dont no shit about it the coal towns are in bad shape because of the damn epa because of all the ruels thats why people have to live like they do hell when you dont get to work all the time you dont have money yeal let all the coal go out see then what you do your power comes from coal and so does most in va, wv, ky and over the biggest part of the east coast well the hole us for that matter as far as the epa noing more about coal then i well i doubt that they have never been in a coal mine or any where around one they sit in dc behind there desk pushing pens putting people out of work when they have no clue what the working man does just to keep food on the table and lights for them to work at there desks

WTF wrote:

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Hey sad truth, here is some actual truth. Richmond has 1 coal fired power plant. The Commonwealth of Virginia has a total of 9. Your grammar speaks volumes about you. Not only are you a complete dumbass, you have no idea what you are talking about. See, there is a difference between rhetoric and actual fact. The fact is, the EPA cares about the health of our citizenry, and the quality of the water and air that our children have available. The EPA knows a hell of a lot more about the coal business than you do. The reason coal jobs are being lost is because the demand for coal has been down. When there is not a high demand for a product, there is no reason to bloat the supply just to avoid laying off workers. Low demand translates to lowered production. That is how coal corporations look at it. And if coal is so great for local economies, explain why coal communities in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia are the poorest and most economically depraved areas in those states? That is not a coincidence.

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sad truth wrote:

if you go down town richmond va. there are 5 coal fired powerplants that i no of and have been to they are right in downtown so dont give me this bullshit about soot people that live there dont even no they are there only bocks from them because they are so clean burn so take your laws and shove them

The last time I was downtown...I didn't see any coal-fired power plants. Were they built in the last few days? Are they hidden? If you've been to them, can you tell me where they are?

I'm legitimately curious, as a Richmonder, about these putative power plants that have been generating electricity apparently right under my nose. I'm also confused. Richmond is a city of 200,000 people on its best day. What in the world is going on downtown that they need FIVE hidden coal-fired power plants?

This sounds sinister.

[sad truth]

to the churches wrote:

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The last time I was downtown...I didn't see any coal-fired power plants. Were they built in the last few days? Are they hidden? If you've been to them, can you tell me where they are?
I'm legitimately curious, as a Richmonder, about these putative power plants that have been generating electricity apparently right under my nose. I'm also confused. Richmond is a city of 200,000 people on its best day. What in the world is going on downtown that they need FIVE hidden coal-fired power plants?
This sounds sinister.

No there not hidden 2 are right off 1-95 same exit 67 i think been a year since i was there and no they have been there for 10 to 15 years some longer others not that long there is 3 between exit 63 and 58 and before you say it thats not consider richmond by them in there words it is not mine there several in hopewell also they are owened by domion power and well they change owners alot because of the epa cogentric was what they went by when i was there last there not that big reason for so many each is only powering 10 to 25,000 houses the more sub divison they build the more power they need like all the ones they have built out on 288 over the past 5 years and still building but try and get any money for this part of the state forget it va ends christainsburg sad fact

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sad truth wrote:

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No there not hidden 2 are right off 1-95 same exit 67 i think been a year since i was there and no they have been there for 10 to 15 years some longer others not that long there is 3 between exit 63 and 58 and before you say it thats not consider richmond by them in there words it is not mine there several in hopewell also they are owened by domion power and well they change owners alot because of the epa cogentric was what they went by when i was there last there not that big reason for so many each is only powering 10 to 25,000 houses the more sub divison they build the more power they need like all the ones they have built out on 288 over the past 5 years and still building but try and get any money for this part of the state forget it va ends christainsburg sad fact

Downtown my ass! That's across the river! Do you know where downtown Richmond is? A power plant out by the Port is NOT "downtown". I know you're counting on everybody from Richlands to be as unenlightened as you are, but some of us have been places and seen things and aren't having any of the BS.

And why do these power stations which are not in downtown anywhere change owners "because of the EPA"? Explain that to me.

[sad truth]

well its still in the town limits. and like i said you would say not in town. its not bs you must be with the epa dumb ass crew because every time ive been to there. the epa was there with there white gloves sweeping up every speck, fining them for every speck they they find thats why only way they can make the power for dumnass,s like you what do you think you would do if they close them where do you think you will get your power from better coal then nuk and yes coal will kill you over a long time but you want be glowing from it and wow some church goer you are and i no ive been to a hell of alot more places then you so dont give me that bs either

[WTF]

It is interesting that you keep calling people dumbasses, and at the same time, you misspell every other word, use no punctuation, and your entire argument is based on childish name calling and broad assertions. The EPA has nothing to do with putting people out of work. The EPA protects people from corporate greed. The "working man" made a choice to stay in an impoverished location, obtain no additional education, and rely on coal mining to provide him a future. That is not the EPA putting people out of work, that is people limiting their employment marketability. You can continue to blame the EPA for whatever causes your angry and irrational rants, or you can take responsibility for the fact that you made the decision to rely on an outdated, toxic, and non renewable resource to provide you with a stable career. There are several different methods of providing electricity, all of which are more sustainable, and one of which creates an enormous amount of jobs right here in Tazewell County. If you have been laid off, and you sit around waiting for them to call you back to work instead of ferociously doing whatever it takes to get back up and provide a stable future for your family, then you are not a victim of anyone but yourself.

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sad truth wrote:

well its still in the town limits. and like i said you would say not in town. its not bs you must be with the epa dumb ass crew because every time ive been to there. the epa was there with there white gloves sweeping up every speck, fining them for every speck they they find thats why only way they can make the power for dumnass,s like you what do you think you would do if they close them where do you think you will get your power from better coal then nuk and yes coal will kill you over a long time but you want be glowing from it and wow some church goer you are and i no ive been to a hell of alot more places then you so dont give me that bs either

I don't work for the EPA, you worthless liar! "In the town limits" is NOT "downtown". You said that there are coal-fired power plants in downtown Richmond. You said it repeatedly! Just admit that you lied about it and we'll move on. Because if you aren't lying, and you actually don't know the different between "downtown" and an industrial park fifteen miles down the river, then you're obviously too stupid to be commenting on the issue in the first place.

For what it's worth to mention (not much, considering your obvious impairment), Dominion already operates nuclear ("nuk") power plants in Virginia, and has been for 40 years. They seem to be doing alright; nobody glowing and whatnot.

I do apologizing for implying that travel would make you smarter. It clearly hasn't.

[roy]

dont worry about nothing because by the time the epa and AGENDA 21 is finished we'll be dead or stacked up in town walking distance from everything you need except freedom.oh and then your car will be taken because you will not it then.and if you own property it will be taken away.and returned to wildlife and off limits to people.think this all sounds crazy ?just check out agenda 21 online its some scary shit.and to think many come on here and argue over crap insted of looking into what's realy going on.just check it out its very real and has been going on now for years.and i hope someone can prove me wronge,agenda 21 was started bY the U.N. with final outcome to be ONE WORLD ORDER.only way to combat it is to shin a light on it ,check it out then tell as many as you can,its real,or another option is to do nothing and wast time energy with issues that matters much less.thanks for reading this please help get the word out there!!!

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roy wrote:

dont worry about nothing because by the time the epa and AGENDA 21 is finished we'll be dead or stacked up in town walking distance from everything you need except freedom.oh and then your car will be taken because you will not it then.and if you own property it will be taken away.and returned to wildlife and off limits to people.think this all sounds crazy ?just check out agenda 21 online its some scary shit.and to think many come on here and argue over crap insted of looking into what's realy going on.just check it out its very real and has been going on now for years.and i hope someone can prove me wronge,agenda 21 was started bY the U.N. with final outcome to be ONE WORLD ORDER.only way to combat it is to shin a light on it ,check it out then tell as many as you can,its real,or another option is to do nothing and wast time energy with issues that matters much less.thanks for reading this please help get the word out there!!!

You shin that light, darling. Shin it bright.

[roy]

to the churches wrote:

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You shin that light, darling. Shin it bright.

will do thanks for caring

[Anarchist]

sad truth wrote:

your full of shit i have been to all the power plants in richmond to deleiver parts to them so dont give me this bullshit 1 you need to do some fact finding before you speak you must be a epa suckass worker that dont have a clue go back to your desk that you sit at and keep your head stuck up there ass since you dont no shit about it the coal towns are in bad shape because of the damn epa because of all the ruels thats why people have to live like they do hell when you dont get to work all the time you dont have money yeal let all the coal go out see then what you do your power comes from coal and so does most in va, wv, ky and over the biggest part of the east coast well the hole us for that matter as far as the epa noing more about coal then i well i doubt that they have never been in a coal mine or any where around one they sit in dc behind there desk pushing pens putting people out of work when they have no clue what the working man does just to keep food on the table and lights for them to work at there desks
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I travel across the 301 bridge between MD and VA on a monthly basis, There is a coal fired plant directly across the Potomac River near Dalhgren and I have never ever saw any soot,All this plant spews is steam,which has been used to generate power.

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Anarchist wrote:

<quoted text>I travel across the 301 bridge between MD and VA on a monthly basis, There is a coal fired plant directly across the Potomac River near Dalhgren and I have never ever saw any soot,All this plant spews is steam,which has been used to generate power.

I'm sure that's "all" it spews.

[I Agree]

WTF wrote:

It is interesting that you keep calling people dumbasses, and at the same time, you misspell every other word, use no punctuation, and your entire argument is based on childish name calling and broad assertions. The EPA has nothing to do with putting people out of work. The EPA protects people from corporate greed. The "working man" made a choice to stay in an impoverished location, obtain no additional education, and rely on coal mining to provide him a future. That is not the EPA putting people out of work, that is people limiting their employment marketability. You can continue to blame the EPA for whatever causes your angry and irrational rants, or you can take responsibility for the fact that you made the decision to rely on an outdated, toxic, and non renewable resource to provide you with a stable career. There are several different methods of providing electricity, all of which are more sustainable, and one of which creates an enormous amount of jobs right here in Tazewell County. If you have been laid off, and you sit around waiting for them to call you back to work instead of ferociously doing whatever it takes to get back up and provide a stable future for your family, then you are not a victim of anyone but yourself.

Amen! I couldn't have said it better.

[Least First]

A Federal Appeals Court crucified the epa last week when it threw out the rediculous over-reaching regulation that was to start this coming January. Many eastern states coal-fired power plants would have closed several plants and partially closed many others, causing electricity rates to sky-rocket which is what the moron in Washington wanted. Glad to know there are still some common sense judges in this country. The epa got a taste of their own medicine, particularly when they touted "go into town and crucify the first five men you see" referring to oil companies. Down with the stinking epa and the idiot that loves to waste money on them. You guys know who I am talking about.

[Anarchist]

to the churches wrote:

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I'm sure that's "all" it spews.

you wouldn't know,since your rose colored glasses are fogged up.