Yes, Liberals, We Should Sue That Ant...

Yes, Liberals, We Should Sue That Anti-Gay Florist

There are 167 comments on the slog.thestranger.com story from Apr 12, 2013, titled Yes, Liberals, We Should Sue That Anti-Gay Florist. In it, slog.thestranger.com reports that:

I was prepared for religious conservatives to start thrashing back when Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson filed a consumer protection lawsuit Tuesday against a florist who refused to sell a gay couple flowers for their wedding.

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Chance

Grove City, PA

#24 Apr 13, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text> I'm actually a big fan of the 1st Amendment, I even support it for those I morally disagree with. You and this self-professed, good Christian business owner have every right to believe that God approves of your bigotry, you even enjoy the right to tell folk that you are in fact such a bigot, but what the state RIGHTFULLY AND CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITS is your right to be dicks because of your choice of bigotries. The law says that you the business owner may not discriminate, REGARDLESS OF YOUR RELIGIOUS OR OTHER DEEPLY HELD BELIEFS TO THE CONTRARY against folk on any number of suspect basis, including your choice to be a Christian. It's render unto Caesar time here. Everybody else is required to play along, why do you imagine that your choice of bigotries be given a pass? Simply because YOU say God approves? If she as a florist, had told folk that she only did gay weddings, straight folk need to do that someplace else, she would be just as sued then too. Welcome to equality. <quoted text>You and the self-professed good Christian business owner really don't get it. Everybody has the right to their bigotries but that doesn't give ANY of us the right to act out on them in an uncivil manner and showing someone the door because they are gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, White, Black, male, female, can be seen by those being shown that door as downright uncivil and quite often, the laws that we all agree to live by by being here agree with that, regardless of the laws you chose to live by has to say. Your Christian beliefs are not our problem, nor should they be made to be our problem by you in civic life. We don't want to drive Christianity underground, just put in its proper place, in individual's lives, in their homes and their places of worship. Any group claiming to be religious in nature for tax exemption purposes should have their books open to the public which is taking up the slack for them. Moneys raised and spent on charitable purposes should remain tax exempt, money raised and spent on less than charitable purposes, that's another question. By the way, Christians like you, an advertisement for anything but. If Islam really has any sort of chance of catching on among non-Muslims it will because Christians like you make your faith seem like such a really bad idea.
I wouldn't give my money to a business owner who said he was gay and didn't want to do business with Christians. So I guess you gays had better get busy and figure how you're going to sue people who refuse to shop at stores run by gays.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Levittown, PA

#25 Apr 13, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't give my money to a business owner who said he was gay and didn't want to do business with Christians.
Hey reprobate bigot, no one said "Christians" in what is a thought experiment, you filth. The cohort is the ignorant, anti rational, theocratic, fundamentalist christians whom we imagine being treated as they have treated others...meaning turned away from places of public accommodations on that basis.

But you knew that, liar fer jeeeshush.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#26 Apr 13, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't give my money to a business owner who said he was gay and didn't want to do business with Christians. So I guess you gays had better get busy and figure how you're going to sue people who refuse to shop at stores run by gays.
Frankly, I wouldn't OWN a business that attracted the likes of you. I would run a HIP FUN business, not one that specialized in polyester clothes and deep fried Twinkies and all you can eat buffets, all of which are so popular with haters and dweebs. And if I owned a B&B I would try to NOT use sheets that had first seen service when Carter was president and serve carbs and sugar and cheap weak coffee.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#27 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't give my money to a business owner who said he was gay and didn't want to do business with Christians. So I guess you gays had better get busy and figure how you're going to sue people who refuse to shop at stores run by gays.
If a business owner were to say they don't provide their goods or services to folk who choose to be Christian, They would be just as guilty of violating the same law as the florist. Folk shouldn't have to play Russian Roulette with other folk's choices of bigotry while sharing the public spaces and somebody's place of business is usually a part of those public spaces.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#28 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
Oh, get over yourselves. You think you are the only ones that don't get exactly what they want when it comes to weddings?......
No, we just understand that a business who denied service based on race, religion, or sexual orientation, needs to have their hands slapped.

If there are non-discrimination laws where these people conduct business, the they deserve every lawsuit they get.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#29 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't give my money to a business owner who said he was gay and didn't want to do business with Christians. So I guess you gays had better get busy and figure how you're going to sue people who refuse to shop at stores run by gays.
As yet you would not know until you were embarrassed, inside.

It's not like there would be a "We don't serve Christians" sign out front, like there used to be "No Negros" or "No Jews need apply" signs.

And I bet if you and your spouse to be were turned away from that desk/counter, you would be yelling a bit, yourself.
simple really

Chicago, IL

#30 Apr 14, 2013
Bread and breakfast and floral shops are Mom and Pop, silver-haired gentle ladies and men, so AIDS maniacs swear on the grave of Leopold and Loeb to do in them and their God.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#31 Apr 14, 2013
simple really wrote:
Bread and breakfast and floral shops are Mom and Pop, silver-haired gentle ladies and men, so AIDS maniacs swear on the grave of Leopold and Loeb to do in them and their God.
Gentle ladies who are dripping in hypocrisy. Do you think one of those silver haired biddies would NOT allow a NOT married hetero couple to fornicate in their precious B&B? After all fornication is NOT allowed in the bible, nor should it be allowed in Nancy's Nook, or Brenda's B&B.

So, tell us, if YOUR silver haired hypocrite allows non married heteros to do the deed in her house, how can she not allow same sex? Please elaborate.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#33 Apr 14, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
As yet you would not know until you were embarrassed, inside.
It's not like there would be a "We don't serve Christians" sign out front, like there used to be "No Negros" or "No Jews need apply" signs.
And I bet if you and your spouse to be were turned away from that desk/counter, you would be yelling a bit, yourself.
No, I wouldn't. If I went into an establishment and wanted some sort of work done that a gay or lesbian didn't want to do, I would thank them for letting me know and gladly seek out another business. It is important to me where I spend my money, and I choose to spend it in establishments where the owners generally support the same views that I have. I know I don't always know, but when I do that is a good thing in my opinion. There are businesses that I support because I know the owners are Christian and conservative. There are others that I avoid because of their political stances. Starbucks, for example.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#34 Apr 14, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Frankly, I wouldn't OWN a business that attracted the likes of you. I would run a HIP FUN business, not one that specialized in polyester clothes and deep fried Twinkies and all you can eat buffets, all of which are so popular with haters and dweebs. And if I owned a B&B I would try to NOT use sheets that had first seen service when Carter was president and serve carbs and sugar and cheap weak coffee.
Still snobby, I see. You know nothing about what I like, and you are WAAAY off the mark.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#35 Apr 14, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Gentle ladies who are dripping in hypocrisy. Do you think one of those silver haired biddies would NOT allow a NOT married hetero couple to fornicate in their precious B&B? After all fornication is NOT allowed in the bible, nor should it be allowed in Nancy's Nook, or Brenda's B&B.
So, tell us, if YOUR silver haired hypocrite allows non married heteros to do the deed in her house, how can she not allow same sex? Please elaborate.
The gentle ladies I know would emphatically turn away an unmarried hetero couple, not a doubt in my mind.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#36 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
Oh, get over yourselves. You think you are the only ones that don't get exactly what they want when it comes to weddings? People involved with weddings tend to be careful what they participate in. I've heard of pastors declining to marry straight couples, churches saying that they don't want a wedding held at their church (straight wedding). Asking someone to be involved in a wedding means that they agree that the wedding should take place, that it is the right thing to do. Have you ever heard of straight couple suing someone for saying no? Of course not. They just find the right church or the right pastor or the right business to provide their wedding services. They don't get all sensitive and offended and then try to FORCE someone to participate. That is childish, non-productive, and damages both the person being sued and the person doing the suing. In this case, it is going to hurt all gay people for some gay people to behave this way. So, I guess I should say, sue your hearts out. Ultimately, it will backlash on all of you.
This is about florists, not churches. Geez....
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#37 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I wouldn't. If I went into an establishment and wanted some sort of work done that a gay or lesbian didn't want to do, I would thank them for letting me know and gladly seek out another business. It is important to me where I spend my money, and I choose to spend it in establishments where the owners generally support the same views that I have. I know I don't always know, but when I do that is a good thing in my opinion. There are businesses that I support because I know the owners are Christian and conservative. There are others that I avoid because of their political stances. Starbucks, for example.
I'm so sure Starbucks is heart-broken.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#38 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't give my money to a business owner who said he was gay and didn't want to do business with Christians. So I guess you gays had better get busy and figure how you're going to sue people who refuse to shop at stores run by gays.
That is one of the dumbest things I've read today. Your blind prejudice is rotting out your brain.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#39 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
The gentle ladies I know would emphatically turn away an unmarried hetero couple, not a doubt in my mind.
Liar. They wouldn't care, unless they demand a marriage certificate at the check in, like THAT is going to happen.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#40 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
Still snobby, I see. You know nothing about what I like, and you are WAAAY off the mark.
Oh, please, I know what you like...I've seen teabaggers on TV and for one thing, they LOVE lots of carbs. They love all you can eat buffets. They hate exercise or even standing up for more than an hour.

They love polyester and space shoes and anything that insures their own comfort and laziness.

My B&B would be two stories which would leave YOU and YOURS out, for the stairs would be far too onerous.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#41 Apr 14, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, please, I know what you like...I've seen teabaggers on TV and for one thing, they LOVE lots of carbs. They love all you can eat buffets. They hate exercise or even standing up for more than an hour.
They love polyester and space shoes and anything that insures their own comfort and laziness.
My B&B would be two stories which would leave YOU and YOURS out, for the stairs would be far too onerous.
LOL! For a second there, I thought, "Wow! I wish I could send this guy a picture of me!" But then I realized it would only be worth it if I could see your face when you saw it. You wouldn't believe it was really me anyway because you so firmly have your preconceived notions fixed in your brain. You are wrong is every single thing you just said about me, EVERY SINGLE THING. I'm going to let slip one little piece of truth about me. I just can't resist. I do 50 floors in 13 minutes on the Stair Master at the gym. How many can you do?
Chance

Grove City, PA

#42 Apr 14, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. They wouldn't care, unless they demand a marriage certificate at the check in, like THAT is going to happen.
There would care. Maybe some couples would lie to them about being married and they might be deceived, but their intention would be married straight couples only. I guarantee it.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#43 Apr 14, 2013
Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I wouldn't. If I went into an establishment and wanted some sort of work done that a gay or lesbian didn't want to do, I would thank them for letting me know and gladly seek out another business. It is important to me where I spend my money, and I choose to spend it in establishments where the owners generally support the same views that I have. I know I don't always know, but when I do that is a good thing in my opinion. There are businesses that I support because I know the owners are Christian and conservative. There are others that I avoid because of their political stances. Starbucks, for example.
do you really want to lve in a society that openly discriminates for whatever personall reason they can dream up... i mean realy... i know your full of sh!t
BigScott

Yorkville, NY

#44 Apr 14, 2013
To all the "GAY KKK" go pick your panzies some where else then. Simple soultion.

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