Bill would allow businesses to deny service to homosexuals

Apr 25, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KVAL-TV Eugene

Several Republican lawmakers filed a bill Thursday seeking an exemption to the state's anti-discrimination laws just weeks after legal action was taken against a Richland florist who denied service to a gay couple for their upcoming wedding.

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“Some people are gay - get over”

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TomInElPaso wrote:
My rights end where yours begin, your rights begin when mine end.
It's called equal rights for a reason.
My grandmother used to say:

"Your right to swing your fist ends and the tip of my nose."

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
Again, this bill doesn't have a chance of passing. Everyone is getting worked up over nothing.
If anything it shows their desperation now that they lost the battle for marriage.
The GOPasaurs have to do SOMETHING to appease their bigot base.
I agree. Just finished reading some of your comments on the State Supreme Court Justices facing salary cuts thread. In that case the 3 GOPasaurs are keeping a campaign pledge to punish any Justice that ruled in favor of marriage equality.

That may be the case here but I think this is something of a new strategy. They are hearing talk of REPEAL in many states already. "Let the people decide" blew up in their faces, and I think even the "activist judges" gambit will end up backfiring in their face big-time if that story gets more coverage.

But they've been toying and brewing the "religious exemptions" idea for a while, just as they did with "civil unions". The newest ingredient to this recipe is using "religious freedom" as grounds for "religious discrimination".

To sum it up, let me add that I'm glad we've done so well in such little time with Same Sex Marriage. But we need to REALLY start pushing ENDA now.

As for this case, we need to stress that the law prohibits discrimination in public accommodations and as someone else pointed out if this were a case of a Christian refusing to serve a Jew or a Black, there'd be no talk of passing 'SPECIAL RIGHTS' laws.

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DNF wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. Just finished reading some of your comments on the State Supreme Court Justices facing salary cuts thread. In that case the 3 GOPasaurs are keeping a campaign pledge to punish any Justice that ruled in favor of marriage equality.
That may be the case here but I think this is something of a new strategy. They are hearing talk of REPEAL in many states already. "Let the people decide" blew up in their faces, and I think even the "activist judges" gambit will end up backfiring in their face big-time if that story gets more coverage.
But they've been toying and brewing the "religious exemptions" idea for a while, just as they did with "civil unions". The newest ingredient to this recipe is using "religious freedom" as grounds for "religious discrimination".
To sum it up, let me add that I'm glad we've done so well in such little time with Same Sex Marriage. But we need to REALLY start pushing ENDA now.
As for this case, we need to stress that the law prohibits discrimination in public accommodations and as someone else pointed out if this were a case of a Christian refusing to serve a Jew or a Black, there'd be no talk of passing 'SPECIAL RIGHTS' laws.
If marriage equality can happen in 9 states then ENDA can definitely pass. There are more people who are for a fair workplace than marriage equality. If the gay rights movement would put an equal amount of passion in ENDA that they do same-sex marriage we may have ENDA sooner than later. The majority of Americans don't think someone should be fired, denied service, or housing simply because they are LGBT.

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A gay person wouldn't legally be able to refuse an evangelical/Christian/Southern Baptist so why should they have a right to refuse gays and it not work the other way around?

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Thanks to DNF for posting this:

Dangerous anti-gay rights bill racing through Florida legislature

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/fl/TUJVH3UR8...

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equalityboy81 wrote:
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If marriage equality can happen in 9 states then ENDA can definitely pass. There are more people who are for a fair workplace than marriage equality. If the gay rights movement would put an equal amount of passion in ENDA that they do same-sex marriage we may have ENDA sooner than later. The majority of Americans don't think someone should be fired, denied service, or housing simply because they are LGBT.
As long as the GOPasaurs control the House, ENDA goes nowhere.

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A gay person wouldn't legally be able to refuse an evangelical/Christian/Southern Baptist so why should they have a right to refuse gays and it not work the other way around?
Sure you could, but you just couldn't say it's because of their religion that you're refusing them service.
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Sounds like a good bill to me. I hope it gets enacted.

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Wayne wrote:
Sounds like a good bill to me. I hope it gets enacted.
It would mean job losses here in Florida. But then I guess you'd be happy having all the jobs go to undocumented workers instead.

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Sure you could, but you just couldn't say it's because of their religion that you're refusing them service.
But they can refuse based on sexual orientation, a way a person is born. We could not discriminate against their CHOSEN beliefs and lifestyle. It's a double standard and not fair.

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But they can refuse based on sexual orientation, a way a person is born. We could not discriminate against their CHOSEN beliefs and lifestyle. It's a double standard and not fair.
Of course it's a double standard and not fair. The religious freaks need to discriminate against someone to make themselves feel better. Fortunately this bill will go nowhere.

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Jesus broke bread with publicans and sinners, he kept company with outcasts of his society, and these people think they're following the Christian example by discrimination?????
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I want to know what other "sinners" she refuses to provide flowers for.

A non-virgin bride
A couple that eats shell fish
A couple that has taken the Lord's name in vain
Does she refuse Buddhists or Hindu's wedding (they are breaking the first commandment)
How about a bride who's dress is made from more than one type of fibre?

Or is her "religious convictions" reserved only for the gay community?

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I want to know what other "sinners" she refuses to provide flowers for.
A non-virgin bride
A couple that eats shell fish
A couple that has taken the Lord's name in vain
Does she refuse Buddhists or Hindu's wedding (they are breaking the first commandment)
How about a bride who's dress is made from more than one type of fibre?
Or is her "religious convictions" reserved only for the gay community?
Matthew, Chapter 6

1. Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

2. Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

4. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others.

5. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

6. And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

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I hope this bill passes!!!
Do civil unions really do what the anti gays said they would do?

Well well well. Looks like the claims by the bigots that civil unions will do the same thing as marriage is unraveling in KY.

Exclusive: Will a lesbian couple be forced to testify against each other?

http://www.whas11.com/news/crimetracker/Exclu...

I hope we get this to be a big buzz on the internet. It will be interesting to hear the usual suspects respond,(Hannity, Limbaugh, Nom, AFA, Robertson, O'Reilly, etc.).

I Love it! PLEASE promote this story everywhere: Facebook; Twitter; etc.

Oh and all you anti gays who backed civil unions.....

1. Abiding Truth Ministries (Scott Lively)
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2. American Family Association (Tim Wildmon; Bryan Fischer)
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3. Americans for Truth About Homosexuality (Peter LaBarbera)
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4. American Vision (Gary DeMar)
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5. Chalcedon Foundation (R. J. Rushdoony)
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6. Christian Anti-Defamation Commission (Gary Cass)
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7. Concerned Women for America (Beverly LaHaye)
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8. Coral Ridge Ministries (Robert Knight)
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9. Dove World Outreach Center (Terry Jones)
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10. Faithful Word Baptist Church (Steven Anderson)
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11. Family Research Council (Tony Perkins)
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12. Family research Institute (Paul Cameron)
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13. Heterosexuals Organized for a Moral Environment (Wayne Lela)
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14. Illinois Family Institute (Laurie Higgins)
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15. Liberty Council (Matt Barber; Peter LaBarbera)
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16. Mass Resistance (Brian Camenker)
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17. National Organization for Marriage (Maggie Gallagher; Robert George; Brian Brown)
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18. Traditional Values Coalition (Lou Sheldon; Andrea Lafferty)

I wonder what CROW tastes like.

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"Brown argued that the bill is not intended to undermine the law or the rights of gays and lesbians in the state and isn't a commentary on same-sex marriage."
Yeah, right. Why is the Republican Party opposed to progress?
You call being gay progress??? Wow you're not that bright! I call building manufacturing plant progress!! New hospitals and schools progress... Not embracing sick demented gays!!! Use your damn head!!!
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As you can see I'm not politically correct... I think homosexuals are sick... Do you see me and my wife screaming straight pride?? Or screaming that I want more rights??? Can two men screw each other and have kids??? Nope! Well there ya go folks... Gays are sick people!!! Look at how they act! Is that normal? Nope so again there ya go!!! It's time to get back to common sense instead of this liberal feel good love one another garbage!!!
Get a job, raise your own kids, teach them well and live a happy life and die clean!!!

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TN Voter wrote:
As you can see I'm not politically correct... I think homosexuals are sick... Do you see me and my wife screaming straight pride?? Or screaming that I want more rights??? Can two men screw each other and have kids??? Nope! Well there ya go folks... Gays are sick people!!! Look at how they act! Is that normal? Nope so again there ya go!!! It's time to get back to common sense instead of this liberal feel good love one another garbage!!!
Get a job, raise your own kids, teach them well and live a happy life and die clean!!!
Screaming about you and your wife IS screaming straight pride.

We already have jobs, raise our kids, teach them well and live a happy life.

Now we can do it with equal rights.

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TN Voter wrote:
As you can see I'm not politically correct... I think homosexuals are sick... Do you see me and my wife screaming straight pride?? Or screaming that I want more rights??? Can two men screw each other and have kids??? Nope! Well there ya go folks... Gays are sick people!!! Look at how they act! Is that normal? Nope so again there ya go!!! It's time to get back to common sense instead of this liberal feel good love one another garbage!!!
Get a job, raise your own kids, teach them well and live a happy life and die clean!!!
Die clean? Have you ever witnessed what happens when someone dies?

I have. It's not clean.
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TN Voter wrote:
As you can see I'm not politically correct... I think homosexuals are sick... Do you see me and my wife screaming straight pride?? Or screaming that I want more rights??? Can two men screw each other and have kids??? Nope! Well there ya go folks... Gays are sick people!!! Look at how they act! Is that normal? Nope so again there ya go!!! It's time to get back to common sense instead of this liberal feel good love one another garbage!!!
Get a job, raise your own kids, teach them well and live a happy life and die clean!!!
1st off You're from TN....LOL Toothless Hate and Bigot state..nuff said!!!!..and You are NO better then anyone else Ahole, just cause you muff dive,and pound your wife's vaJJ..Grow the F up !

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