Mayors propose sharing revenue

Mayors propose sharing revenue

There are 29 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from May 15, 2008, titled Mayors propose sharing revenue. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

INDEPENDENCE: Northeast Ohio mayors voted Thursday to pursue joint land use planning and sharing of new tax revenue in a 16-county region, arguing that local communities must change their ''go-it-alone, ...

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Enquiring Minds

Strongsville, OH

#1 May 16, 2008
So which counties are they?

Any reputable sources actually know?

Thanks.
Duke for Mayor

Anaheim, CA

#3 May 16, 2008
"The goal is not consolidation or a way to raise additional taxes, the mayors said. Instead, it's an effort to correct a dysfunctional system that has neighboring communities competing against each other for development and even stealing companies to boost their tax base."

But competing against one another for, and even stealing employees and residents to boost their tax bases is just fine?

Residency and Regionalism.

They go together like water and oil.

woof
Old Man Grump

Akron, OH

#4 May 16, 2008
The two biggest PIGS, Akron's - Drunkken Donny Boy and Cleveland's - No Action Jackson will be at the front of the trough line to get their share of the new tax revenue even though they don't deserve any of it. Regionalization is just plain wrong because the big cities will not treat the burbs fairly and will steal their revenues. I hope that when this comes up for a vote, the burbs tell the mayors where they can go with this proposal.
Souloski

Bedford, OH

#5 May 16, 2008
NOT HUDSON,they say they will but they won't.

“Jon & Kate Suck”

Since: Jan 08

Hartville, Ohio

#6 May 16, 2008
I think that if most of the suburbs join together they can generate enough strength to keep the big boys in line. The old strength in numbers. If not they will be bullied like a poor parking lot attendent and with pretty much the same outcome. This so called golden link has been thrown around for years. Old Don only looks at it as more power in his corner. He could care less about any of the communities, including his own. It is what is good for Don.
Click the List

Strongsville, OH

#7 May 16, 2008
Enquiring Minds wrote:
So which counties are they?
Any reputable sources actually know?
Thanks.
They are essentially listed here:

http://www.revenuestudy.org/who.htm

Since: Mar 07

Canton, OH

#8 May 16, 2008
{{{local communities must change their ''go-it-alone, winner-take-all'' mentality toward economic development.}}}

Hmmm, this jes' described Akron's city hall hero to a T.

I wonder iff'n we can get all of those communities onboard to help share the debt for keepin' Goodyear and Firestone in the area.

That way, in twenty years or so, they can benefit from the huge profit we'll all be makin' from the investment.
lynne

Akron, OH

#9 May 16, 2008
Anytime you take the competition out of business we all suffer.
Cole

Akron, OH

#10 May 16, 2008
I wonder then if down the road....why would anyone need separate Mayors? Let's think.....we could just have one governor, no separate counties, no separate taxes, no separate schools,just one State; Yeah,Right,like that would be best-no competition (sarcasm)Hey, while you guys are at it let's just make ONE BIG COUNTRY!

“LeBron = Born-again Tribe Fan!”

Since: May 07

Tallmadge, Ohio

#11 May 16, 2008
Why should a city like Tallmadge, which has been driving businesses out of town, be funded this way?

Tallmadge's mayor is included on the advisory council.

Please remove Tallmadge from all participation in this, as it would be grossly unfair to the other participating communities!
no thinking involved

Owings, MD

#12 May 16, 2008
You go, Cole! You've hit it on the head...what is the point, then, of land boundaries, townships, counties, states, etc.????

“LeBron = Born-again Tribe Fan!”

Since: May 07

Tallmadge, Ohio

#13 May 16, 2008
Cole, you're on to something!

In the meantime, let's ask the question: Is it REALLY necessary for mayors, city planners, judges, law directors, and others in similar governmental positions (including state and federal level jobs) to actually be residents of the cities where they work?

No.

Let's demand that our cities be governed and operated in a similar manner as large corporations are!

Let's offshore all of these positions to India, Poland, Russia, China, Brazil, or wherever else we can find a workforce willing to do these jobs on the cheap.

Just imagine the SAVINGS to our economy! Let's be leaders here, Ohio.
CFHS 82

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#14 May 16, 2008
Watch out for the DON he will come in from Akron and take it all. He tool some land in Cuyahoga Falls so that some from his administration could live there and go to Woodridge schools. Is more coming?
Really2

Northbrook, IL

#15 May 16, 2008
Actually the whole reason for this is because the suburbs are sucking the state's and people's resources. And destroying habitat while they are at it. If you read it correctly, the first thing to be developed is existing non utilized structures. Meaning Cleveland Warehouses, Youngstown Steel Plants, Akron Rubber factories, and Canton parts factories. Suburban sprawl is the reason NEO is doing so poorly in the first place. Hudson thinks it deserves office buildings, Twinsburg thinks it should destroy it's forest for malls and a soccer stadium. When you have underutilized land in Akron and Canton for either of those.
Reasonable Voice

Chicago, IL

#16 May 16, 2008
It is funny how Currin, Part-time Mayor of Hudson is so involved in this regionalism. Hudson just outbid Macedonia for Norandex. The company is now leaving Macedonia and taking jobs to Hudson. Is this plan a proportional revenue sharing across the board or does it only apply if you can not lure the company to your city on your own.

This also applies to good old Akron, who has been sucking all available grants and other funding from the surrounding area for Goodyear. Now after that they want to share.

Gentlemen, you can't speak out of both sides of your mouths and expect to be taken seriously.
Duke for Mayor

Anaheim, CA

#18 May 16, 2008
Lets take a look at this historically.

Akron evloves during and after the industrial revolution into a thriving, vibrant municipality, attracting new residents by the tens of thousands.

During this period of growth, Akron keeps expanding its tax base and geographic boundaries through forced annexations, using its public utilities and economic strength as the tools of expansion.

The balloon bursts, the economy falters, the large employers begin heading for greener pastures, the tax base suffers, crime, poverty, and racism drive many of the miiddle class and more affluent residents as well as commercial enterprises to seek refuge in the suburbs. Downtown Akron becomes a ghost town.

In order to rebuild the City and attract new development, business, and residents, City leaders begin reinvesting in Downtown, funding that reinvestment with debt, which now has reached almost 1 Billion dollars.

Akron's leaders begin looking for new ways to recapture lost revenues, through JEDD agreements that trade utilities and shares of income taxes in exchange for a moratorium on annexation.

Now Akron's leaders seek to enhance the funding opportunities for their operating and capital budgets by promoting and participating in a program of "Regionalism", a sharing of income tax revnues over a broad, sixteen county area of the state.

Oh...but if you work for Akron, Dont move to Stow, or Fairlawn, Copley, Coventry, Hudson, Bath, Mogadore, or even Springfield, all places where the water coming out of your taps provides revenues to the City of Akron's coffers.

You will be fired for your indiscretion.

woof
Ahau Kin

Maumelle, AR

#19 May 16, 2008
Local governments actually cooperate instead of whatever they're doing now?

There's a truism in business that may be helful here:

Let's say you assign an imbecile to a project.

It starts to go badly.

"Adding additional imbeciles to a failing project does NOT improve your chances of success."
umm

United States

#20 May 16, 2008
Its about time we get up to speed with the nation.
Wallhaven

Avon Lake, OH

#21 May 16, 2008
Duke for Mayor wrote:
Lets take a look at this historically.
Akron evloves during and after the industrial revolution into a thriving, vibrant municipality, attracting new residents by the tens of thousands.
During this period of growth, Akron keeps expanding its tax base and geographic boundaries through forced annexations, using its public utilities and economic strength as the tools of expansion.
The balloon bursts, the economy falters, the large employers begin heading for greener pastures, the tax base suffers, crime, poverty, and racism drive many of the miiddle class and more affluent residents as well as commercial enterprises to seek refuge in the suburbs. Downtown Akron becomes a ghost town.
In order to rebuild the City and attract new development, business, and residents, City leaders begin reinvesting in Downtown, funding that reinvestment with debt, which now has reached almost 1 Billion dollars.
Akron's leaders begin looking for new ways to recapture lost revenues, through JEDD agreements that trade utilities and shares of income taxes in exchange for a moratorium on annexation.
Now Akron's leaders seek to enhance the funding opportunities for their operating and capital budgets by promoting and participating in a program of "Regionalism", a sharing of income tax revnues over a broad, sixteen county area of the state.
Oh...but if you work for Akron, Dont move to Stow, or Fairlawn, Copley, Coventry, Hudson, Bath, Mogadore, or even Springfield, all places where the water coming out of your taps provides revenues to the City of Akron's coffers.
You will be fired for your indiscretion.
woof
And what, pray tell, is your solution? Can you come up with an alternative that would have saved the rust belt cities and NOT done it in a way it has played out?

I'm sure we're all ears here.
Ignorant Raging Akronite

Frankfort, OH

#22 May 16, 2008
Cole wrote:
I wonder then if down the road....why would anyone need separate Mayors? Let's think.....we could just have one governor, no separate counties, no separate taxes, no separate schools,just one State; Yeah,Right,like that would be best-no competition (sarcasm)Hey, while you guys are at it let's just make ONE BIG COUNTRY!
Why not? The "State of Cleveland" or even the "Commonwealth of Cleveland" comprised of all 16 NE Ohio counties probably would be run better and would be more economically viable than the US has been for years.

Besides, while this is certainly a positive step forward, eventually the need for consolidation of so many municipalities will become glaringly obvious. As young people flee NE Ohio in droves, the average age of the population is getting older by the day. Eventually, you won't have capable people to run all of the excess government structures that exist now.

Particularly at risk are suburban governments dominated by Baby Boomers. The younger generations emerging are on the whole much more interested in urban life and living in the city. This interest is largely fueled by practical issues; They feel priced out of and alienated from the suburbs where they grew up, and that their parents have come to associate with the American Dream. But with the ailing economy, rising fuel costs, and the foreclosure crisis, even Baby Boomers will not be living much longer in these places.

Suburban governments within the next five years will break down, unless they are just outright abolished and/or merged into some sort of county/regional structure.

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