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Housing group files complaint against mobile home park

There are 22 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Mar 21, 2008, titled Housing group files complaint against mobile home park. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

The Fair Housing Advocates Association in Akron has filed a complaint against Westview Mobile Estates in Chippewa Township, arguing that the mobile home park discriminates against families with children.

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Jeannie

Sevierville, TN

#3 Mar 21, 2008
What's the big deal.......I'm sick of the government in private property matters, they're not paying your bills! If you want to only rent to people without children, so be it. SOME people let their kids run crazy and destroy everything in sight, it's a personal preference not a public opinion!
SassyMom

Tulsa, OK

#6 Mar 21, 2008
Maybe they should turn the name to

"Westview Mobile Retirement Estates"

That's how they avoid this situation in Florida
Concerned

United States

#7 Mar 21, 2008
Big deal!!! Tell the people who want to complain to go find a place to live somewhere else. Doesn't housing CODE limit the number of persons in a home (or mobile home) to 2 residents for each bedroom? That's code, not discrimination. Sorry for them if they want to cram their 6 children into a 2 or 3 bedroom place. By code that is not allowed. And I'd appreciate an adult only section for housing. That is not discrimination as long as they declare that as Adult Only. Isn't that like Senior Citizen buildings? Should I be suing because I can't get in there because I'm only 50? Or how about I sue the retirment homes that won't let me move in until I'm 55. Oh, and not at all if my grandchild lives with me (NO KIDS ALLOWED). Tell them to quit whining and move some place kid friendly or a place they will be allowed to run amuck.
Andy

Mansfield, OH

#10 Mar 21, 2008
Heck, what the matter. Westview has had this established policy for well over 30 years. My wife and I purchased mobile home back in 1975. They had the families toward the back of the park for a couple of reasons. 1) is because of the high number of retiries toward the front of the park, closet to Rt21. 2) all the play ground equipment is in the rear od the park in the family section. There wasn't much room up front. The park wasn't designed for that stuff up by Rt21. 3) Westview had pinic pavillions and those were in the family section. The only thing someone may complain about is that the laundramat is in the center of the park.

Quit your belly achin, Westview Estates is an association and private property that you are leasing a 30'x 70' area with water and sewer hook up. Any improvements you erect on your lot stays with the lot. It is not as if the mobile home park owner and manager hides the rules and regulations from families from children. If this park does not meet your needs due to the rules & regulations then you really shouldn't try to force yourself into a situation which your family will find not so accomodating.

“Ain't Running Skeered”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#11 Mar 21, 2008
SDespot wrote:
So what is wrong with that? Same as when we had smoking and non-smoking areas.
Another fine example of how being Politically Correct is ruining this country.
I don't see this as any different than senior living estates, or condo communities. It's all about where the money goes.
Jim

Warren, OH

#12 Mar 21, 2008
Whats the problem..
MOVE SOME WHERE ELSE..
BUT NO.. lets make a stink about it..
SORRY not ALL of US need to breed a herd..
an then not take care of them..
UnCivil Rights

Akron, OH

#13 Mar 21, 2008
I wonder if Al or Jesse will come to Chippewa Township for a protest at the trailer park? Maybe Barack Hussein Obama and his Pastor Wright will come and join them? Sounds like a big UnCivil Rights issue to me.
no name

Tulsa, OK

#14 Mar 21, 2008
i believe adults who have worked all lives and now retired , not childbearing age should be allowed to live somewhere among other adults without all the noise of children(although i love them), many older adults have severe health problems that cannot tolerate the high stress level that children can cause, I am sure they looked for a place to live that would guarantee a more peaceful existense and i know there are many other parks where people with children can go. I live in a senior building and it is because of health reasons why we are all here, and the same at adults only mobile home parks.
patrick7

United States

#16 Mar 21, 2008
why are you all so surprised? this is the same culture that says even though 25% of people smoke and there are thousands of bars in the state, not a single one can allow smoking.. same concept. you canot have a place that lets out children because, God forbid, someone with children may want to live there. and you cannot have a place with smoking because some non smoker may want togo there ( why I dont know). Its all cut from the same cloth, folks.

“Ain't Running Skeered”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#17 Mar 21, 2008
Al -Muh Fuh- Sharpton wrote:
No black folks be livin' there. That's racist!
It always boils down to that. It claims it discriminates against families with children, it doesn't say against color. Just because you think you have the discrimination market cornered doesn't make you an elitist. There are many forms of discrimination, that has nothing to do with color. Matter of fact, in South Akron, I was cutting through a neighborhood to avoid a traffic jam and was hollared at that I "was in the wrong neighborhood" and to "go home white girl before you find yourself in trouble". Now that is racist too - perhaps I should sue that neighborhood and cry racists.

Would be no different than your foolish remark. Everything isn't about you and your color. Some people have real problems and don't have to go out of their way to look for an angle or the drama.
Figures

Sunbury, OH

#19 Mar 21, 2008
Concerned wrote:
Big deal!!! Tell the people who want to complain to go find a place to live somewhere else. Doesn't housing CODE limit the number of persons in a home (or mobile home) to 2 residents for each bedroom? That's code, not discrimination. Sorry for them if they want to cram their 6 children into a 2 or 3 bedroom place. By code that is not allowed. And I'd appreciate an adult only section for housing. That is not discrimination as long as they declare that as Adult Only. Isn't that like Senior Citizen buildings? Should I be suing because I can't get in there because I'm only 50? Or how about I sue the retirment homes that won't let me move in until I'm 55. Oh, and not at all if my grandchild lives with me (NO KIDS ALLOWED). Tell them to quit whining and move some place kid friendly or a place they will be allowed to run amuck.
There is long-established case law regarding this issue. This suit is not as bizarre and unfair as you think.

You can make a 55+ community, no discrimination there, as long as it is advertised as such (as you may not know, age is not a protected class in housing law).

You can limit the number of people in a unit, as long as it is not MORE restrictive than the health code limit (which goes by square footage). You can't go above and beyond that limit because of the disparate impact on families with children. Disparate impact is not about discriminatory intent. It's about the impact on families.

The trailer park folks might be the nicest folks in the world who don't mean to discriminate, however, if their conduct conflicts with state and federal fair housing law, they will have to answer. It's the same as when the average American complains about minor traffic or criminal violations. It's the law, but like it or not, we have to follow it.
noname

Tulsa, OK

#21 Mar 21, 2008
for the life of me, i cannot figure out why certain people live to make life more miserable for everyone and themselves too by seeking out places and situations where they are not welcome and marching or insisting on their right to live somewhere , where the people have chosen the place they want to live because it is the way they want to live with no troublemakers in that environment. Then outsiders decide they have a right to disturb the peace and get away with it in the name of civil rights.
noname

Tulsa, OK

#22 Mar 21, 2008
like someone said years ago(a former president) government is not the solution to our problems, government is the cause of many of our problems, and loss of many freedom of choice acts.
Overtaxed Voter

Columbus, OH

#28 Mar 21, 2008
This group also managed to convince Summit County council in 2004 to have the taxpayers foot the $15,500 bill for their company to receive a professional service contract for 'the Analysis of Impediments to Fair Housing choice in Summit County and Action Plan
for Development'.
Overtaxed Voter

Columbus, OH

#29 Mar 21, 2008
And this group is the one who filed a civil rights complaint against a local condo association in July 2007 because their rules prohibited infants and toddlers from the swimming pool because of fears over unwanted pee and poop while one of the residents wanted her child to be able to swim in a diaper.

http://www.ohio.com/news/8823527.html
SassyMom

Barberton, OH

#31 Mar 21, 2008
Thomas Scrotum wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I mention that I have no life and that I'm obsessed with Ohio while living in Vega$?
That's his IP address,which doesn't mean he lives in vega4
SassyMom

Barberton, OH

#32 Mar 21, 2008
Vegas*
kim

AOL

#33 Mar 22, 2008
People dont want kids in there and the parents let them roam all over the park. In no time it would be trashed and people would have everything stolen off property. It's their right to keep a kid free park for the ones who choose to live a quiet life. I'm thinking this is someone just looking for a way to sue and cause a big stink. What NORMAL person would want to live in a trailor park with kids. Kids want to ride bikes, play ball, run, scream and play till they drop. A trailor park is no place for all that..
Florida Senior

Ocala, FL

#34 Jun 8, 2008
I just turned 55 I have lived in a manufactured home park that called itself an adult park. We moved in 17 years ago . We were aware of the 80/20 law governing such Adult parks . To all those C.O.P.'S (CRABBY OLD PEOPLE) who live in such parks and were misinformed when you bought in a park like this you need to sit down and (READ) your prospectus !Ours historically accepts the fact grandchildren are to going to visit . Sad to say we have been infested with people who have taken it upon themselves to harrass people younger than themselves
and hate children . And are trying to illegally change the rules and keep younger people out and Grandchildren out of the pool.!When we moved in we had a goal we decided to skip the 30 year mortgage big house and move into an adult park and pay off all our bills by age 55 and own our home etc. On my husbands birthday last year we met our goal. and some of you people scream when you get sued ? READ THE LAW!!!!! before you start making discriminatory comments as " we don't want young people in here ! This a retirement park we came here to not even see children . Sad to say this was told to me just last week when I went to the pool the C.O.P.'s came and asked me who I was and where I belong! these are new people! I do not know and I should be asking them who they are! I've lived here 17 years ! As for discrimination and moving where I am not wanted as implied by various other threads this pack mentality and ignorance of the law is upsetting to say the least! I just had my 55th Birthday . And my heart is just sick that I am now included in the term Senior citizen ! And it is not out of vanity . It is because I am so ashamed to fall into this catagory at the moment because of what has happened to our Park.by a few senior (citizens?)
I have long blond hair and blue eyes and my husband and I don't look our age and choose a healthy lifestyle . I think some of these people are just angry they are getting old and resent anything that reminds them they are. hey it happens to all of us folks ! It is funny we are the first ones called when there is a problem or they need something done they cannot do themselves. Day or night and help was willingly given . But what if I said to the newby people in the park they will not be welcome at my hurricane relief center as we have set up at our home for the park in the past. When we were hit by hurricanes The Red cross commended us for such neighborly spirit of those us who together and made it happen. It won't happen but I just said what if? I am a senior advocate and worked with crimes against seniors for many who were having troubles and have had many wonderful senior friends who were gracious and loved to see grandchildren come and visit even though they had none of their own .But they have passed on and greatly missed and we have new people! The latest rules made by our Non-Mandatory Hoa and park owners are against children young people and now pets and may be even( blond blue eyed people (ha ha !) because they don't like them either!And are trying to get this park deemed a senior park and make anyone younger than 62 move.! You want us to move ? Fine , A nice hefty lawsuit (that I won't have to pay for) against the HOA and owners . Will get me to move! And if you want to not see youth or children or animals etc. then just keep up the threats and harrassment ,You will find out such behavior is not protected by a Claimed( still not proven senior status of the park!) and think about what age all those people are that help you because you can't help yourself ! Bag boys , Nurses ,Drs. plumbers, etc. And hello!!! if some of us didn't breed as some ignorant person put it ! The word would end with the ignorant generation who thinks that way!!!!! Come to think of it should!!!!!!
Duke for Mayor

Yorba Linda, CA

#35 Jun 8, 2008
Figures wrote:
<quoted text>
There is long-established case law regarding this issue. This suit is not as bizarre and unfair as you think.
You can make a 55+ community, no discrimination there, as long as it is advertised as such (as you may not know, age is not a protected class in housing law).
You can limit the number of people in a unit, as long as it is not MORE restrictive than the health code limit (which goes by square footage). You can't go above and beyond that limit because of the disparate impact on families with children. Disparate impact is not about discriminatory intent. It's about the impact on families.
The trailer park folks might be the nicest folks in the world who don't mean to discriminate, however, if their conduct conflicts with state and federal fair housing law, they will have to answer. It's the same as when the average American complains about minor traffic or criminal violations. It's the law, but like it or not, we have to follow it.
Be careful. People dont like the truth around here sometimes.

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