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#1 Feb 5, 2013
Today would have been Trayvon Martin's 18th birthday and George Zimmerman was in court. This was a regularly scheduled pre-trial hearing. Z's attorney requested a continuance of the trial from June to November. Denied. Judge ruled that nothing had changed since the date was set, nothing insurmountable timewise was presented.

A bunch of back and forth over some analysis of Trayvon's phone. The rumor online seems to be that GPS tracking can reveal something pretty close to his path that night--which is likely to conflict pretty substantially with the defendent's story--as does much of the evidence already public. There have also been some hints that Z's phone records may provide some interesting information about who he called immediately following the murder--such as a cop, possibly one of the witnesses (the one who claimed to have seen Trayvon dealing blows MMA-style and later backed down).

Been following an attorney's forum for updates. http://frederickleatherman.com/ .

Pretty interesting stuff.

Oh, and it looks like Zim is out of money and not much more coming in. His atty's strategy on discovery seems to have been to gather info likely to bump up donations (Facebook and twitter accounts and the like--stuff that isn't ever going to make it into a courtroom because it simply isn't relevant) rather than evidence for trial. O'Mara has made hints about his client's indigence, and he's probably in his office right now drafting a request to declare him indigent. Apparently, according to Fla law, that would get him (O'Mara) out of the case and make it somebody else's mess to deal with.
now hey now

Columbus, OH

#2 Feb 5, 2013
Hmmm. Ol Reader here is farting under her blankets again. The phone records will point to the non-existence of treycoon's girlfriend. The GPS canard is a red herring intended by the left to escape discussion of the gf.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/11/3...

http://theconservativetreehouse.com
Or this gem
http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TSP1GTEFA...

Remember, when the enemedia uses doctored video and audio and publishes pictures of a younger, "angelic" Treycoon it is engaging in media evidence to inflame passions, not evidence for a court of law. Reader, being a sh^t eater wallows in the former.

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#3 Feb 5, 2013
now hey now wrote:
Hmmm. Ol Reader here is farting under her blankets again. The phone records will point to the non-existence of treycoon's girlfriend. The GPS canard is a red herring intended by the left to escape discussion of the gf.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/11/3...
http://theconservativetreehouse.com
Or this gem
http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TSP1GTEFA...
Remember, when the enemedia uses doctored video and audio and publishes pictures of a younger, "angelic" Treycoon it is engaging in media evidence to inflame passions, not evidence for a court of law. Reader, being a sh^t eater wallows in the former.
I must say, hey now, conservativetreehouse is almost a step up out of the swamp you wallow in. They use actual words over there, although not necessarily too choice. Most of your sites are mostly pictures, aren't they?

But, the treehousers are way big on emotion (particularly hate) and insults (I understand they had a field day criticizing the judge's appearance today) and not so much on stuff like facts and the law. But they sure do LOVE a good conspiracy!

I haven't put a lot of faith in Witness #8 from the beginning. When I heard her police interview (yes--there was one; yes--she does exist), she wasn't terribly articulate. Someone who could likely be confused or led by a skilled defense attorney. But, it doesn't appear as though the case is likely to rest heavily on her testimony anyway.

The star defense witness--the one who claimed that Trayvon was slamming Zimmerman "MMA style" rather quickly recanted and wasn't even certain who was on top. It would certainly be interesting if Zimmerman had made a quick call to him while sitting in the back of the police car. Or a quick call to Osterman--who was johnnie-on-the-spot at the scene.

But, there is physical evidence (T's phone and Z's flashlight) that ended up way SOUTH of where Z. said this all went down. And the blood pattern on the back of Z's head suggest he was hovering OVER, rather than laying on his back. This matches with the blood drop (Z's blood) on T's hoodie--the only blood/DNA of Z's on T.
now hey now

Columbus, OH

#4 Feb 5, 2013
Say reader, in the back of your mind you've got to be hoping for a conviction of hispanic YT just so the knigghers don't riot. Because you obviously refuse to acknowledge the basic self-defense requirement of fear for one's imminent death or serious injury--even if among two criminal actors. So, if YT sees a conviction of GZ as unlawful are you and your filthy progressive ilk ready for YT's rioting? I wouldn't count on YT just rioting and burning down his neighborhoods like knigghers do. What if you filthy progressives have bent over so far backward to appease and accomodate a criminal parasitic minority and in so doing unleashed a firestorm from the lawful majority that sees your minority as lawless? In other words, what are you filthy progressives going to do when the majority takes a page from your playbook and willfully and actively becomes lawless?

Relatedly, self defense defenses are popular as the matter of natural law requires and stand your ground laws and Castle Doctrine laws are popular with law abiding people. If you filthy progressives succeed in getting a wrongful conviction and gleefully decide to march on rolling back SYG and CD laws with the cheerleading of a lying media in front of a gangster regime that ran guns to mexican cartels, then with a maximum of 20% of the population as support for your idiocy, you are walking into the most uneven of civil wars ever sparked by the dumbest of ill-concieved campaigns that was based on ultimately disarming a population.

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#6 Feb 5, 2013
now hey now wrote:
Say reader, in the back of your mind you've got to be hoping for a conviction of hispanic YT just so the knigghers don't riot yada yada yada ...
I am hoping for a conviction because I believe that George Zimmmerman is guilty of murder. He has been lying at every opportunity since his first explanation of the events. There are multiple significant conflicts in his accounts (he's running/he wasn't running; I was following/I wasn't following). Most of his account is in direct conflict with the evidence. Things like car headlights visible in the security film from the club house don't match his account of his parking there and then moving--more likely several passes back and forth while Trayvon sheltered by the mailboxes. Things like the timing of events being way off--he claims that Trayvon came from between the houses and circled his truck (a second point from what he reported to the dispatcher--which should have been while Z. was parked at the clubhouse). No way a person walking could have accomplished this in the time frame recorded during the phone call. The Z. describes the attack at the T of the two sidewalks--and cannot quite figure out how they moved as far south as the body was found. Yet, the phone and flashlight were found even further south--as if there was a chase headed north.

And we don't even have any GPS data from T's phone to look at yet. And we don't know who all Z. called, texted and emailed around the neighborhood asking for their support.

And what evidence are you presenting? Oh, the mean old main stream media just made it all up.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#7 Feb 5, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
I am hoping for a conviction because I believe that George Zimmmerman is guilty of murder. He has been lying at every opportunity since his first explanation of the events. There are multiple significant conflicts in his accounts (he's running/he wasn't running; I was following/I wasn't following). Most of his account is in direct conflict with the evidence. Things like car headlights visible in the security film from the club house don't match his account of his parking there and then moving--more likely several passes back and forth while Trayvon sheltered by the mailboxes. Things like the timing of events being way off--he claims that Trayvon came from between the houses and circled his truck (a second point from what he reported to the dispatcher--which should have been while Z. was parked at the clubhouse). No way a person walking could have accomplished this in the time frame recorded during the phone call. The Z. describes the attack at the T of the two sidewalks--and cannot quite figure out how they moved as far south as the body was found. Yet, the phone and flashlight were found even further south--as if there was a chase headed north.
And we don't even have any GPS data from T's phone to look at yet. And we don't know who all Z. called, texted and emailed around the neighborhood asking for their support.
And what evidence are you presenting? Oh, the mean old main stream media just made it all up.
You really WANT Zimmerman to be guilty.
Big difference.

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#8 Feb 5, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You really WANT Zimmerman to be guilty.
Big difference.
I believe Zimmerman to be guilty.
sidekick

Columbus, OH

#9 Feb 5, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe Zimmerman to be guilty.
No, George said it right...YOU WANT!

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#10 Feb 5, 2013
sidekick wrote:
<quoted text>
No, George said it right...YOU WANT!
Irrelevant what I want. Looking at the mounting evidence, I believe him to be guilty.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRAYON

Arlington Heights, IL

#11 Feb 5, 2013
Allright, everybody, let's sing along and wish Trayon a Happy Birthday!

*Happy birthday to you. You were born in a zoo. With monkeys and hyhenas, you act like one too!

*Happy birthday to you, your school suspended you, cause vandalism and truancy, and that's what you do!

*Happy birthday to you, your school suspended you. You went to Orlando, and got your just do.

*Happy birthday to you, you started a fight, Zimmerman fought back, and that was his right.

*Happy birthday to you, Zimmerman smoked you. The neighborhood is safer, and that's what you do!

*Happy birthday to you, liberals love you. You are their celebrity, but they will soon forget you.

Happy birthday to you, law-abiding citizens hate you. Just like a toliet, you remind us of pooh!

*Happy birthday to me, "Skittles and tea", now you are wasted, and we are in glee!

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#12 Feb 6, 2013
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRAYON wrote:
*Happy birthday to you, you started a fight,
Where is the evidence?
hn say what again mf-er

Columbus, OH

#13 Feb 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the evidence?
I believe it was self-proclaimed by Treycoon hisseffs:"No_limit_kniggh a"

His -ahem-sealed school records showing suspensions. And his choice of intoxicants reefer and 'lean'. Face it. You filthy progressives danced upon the wrong corpse. Sheeeeyit, even Treypapa has gang tats on his neck. sheeeeeeyit. Ya know, when you dance on a parasite's corpse you should be blasting that parasite anthem by Kool and the Gang, "Jungle Boogie"

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#14 Feb 6, 2013
hn say what again mf-er wrote:
<quoted text>I believe it was self-proclaimed by Treycoon hisseffs:"No_limit_kniggh a"
His -ahem-sealed school records showing suspensions. And his choice of intoxicants reefer and 'lean'. Face it. You filthy progressives danced upon the wrong corpse. Sheeeeyit, even Treypapa has gang tats on his neck. sheeeeeeyit. Ya know, when you dance on a parasite's corpse you should be blasting that parasite anthem by Kool and the Gang, "Jungle Boogie"
Are you claiming that somewhere Trayvon recorded an intent to go out and attack George Zimmerman?

I don't think so, but if you have proof, well, go ahead an present.

And you can pretty well trust that if there were anything in Trayvon's school records that would help Z's case, O'Mara would have leaked (or outright published it on his website) it by now. He has had them for several weeks.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15 Feb 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you claiming that somewhere Trayvon recorded an intent to go out and attack George Zimmerman?
I don't think so, but if you have proof, well, go ahead an present.
And you can pretty well trust that if there were anything in Trayvon's school records that would help Z's case, O'Mara would have leaked (or outright published it on his website) it by now. He has had them for several weeks.
Reader thinks she is a judge.

pretend along, so she can feel the power of the magnificent READER.

The Trayvon case was closed when the gun went off.

Self defense.

next case please.
hn say what again mf-er

Columbus, OH

#16 Feb 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you claiming that somewhere Trayvon recorded an intent to go out and attack George Zimmerman?
I don't think so, but if you have proof, well, go ahead an present.
And you can pretty well trust that if there were anything in Trayvon's school records that would help Z's case, O'Mara would have leaked (or outright published it on his website) it by now. He has had them for several weeks.
I'm claiming what you claim: actor A's prior behavior is proof of guilt. And that those prior acts nullify centuries of common and natural law.

PS Whaddaya think about my suggestion for the anthem you filth should blare over boomboxes when you dance on the corpses of patrasites? Jungle Boogie! Eh? Eh? Get it?

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#17 Feb 6, 2013
hn say what again mf-er wrote:
<quoted text>I'm claiming what you claim: actor A's prior behavior is proof of guilt. And that those prior acts nullify centuries of common and natural law.
PS Whaddaya think about my suggestion for the anthem you filth should blare over boomboxes when you dance on the corpses of patrasites? Jungle Boogie! Eh? Eh? Get it?
Prior bad acts are only admissible in certain limited situations in order to show the likelihood of the accused to have committed the crime in question.

Trayvon has not been accused of any crime.

And the forensic evidence contradicts most of what Zimmerman has claimed happened that night.

So--when it comes to that key set of details where he claims that Trayvon accosted him (using outdated dialogue from some blackspoitation film of the 70s), knocked him to the ground with a single blow, and simultaneously banged George's head on the pavement, while delivering blows to the face, covering George's mouth and nose so as to smother him AND slid his hand down George's side to grab the gun (behind his own thigh)--oh and somehow managed to travel two houses down in the process--well, the jury might have just a bit of trouble believing that one. I don't care what you think is in the school records that O'Mara subpoenaed and received two weeks ago.

Since: Oct 10

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#18 Feb 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Prior bad acts are only admissible in certain limited situations in order to show the likelihood of the accused to have committed the crime in question.
Trayvon has not been accused of any crime.
And the forensic evidence contradicts most of what Zimmerman has claimed happened that night.
So--when it comes to that key set of details where he claims that Trayvon accosted him (using outdated dialogue from some blackspoitation film of the 70s), knocked him to the ground with a single blow, and simultaneously banged George's head on the pavement, while delivering blows to the face, covering George's mouth and nose so as to smother him AND slid his hand down George's side to grab the gun (behind his own thigh)--oh and somehow managed to travel two houses down in the process--well, the jury might have just a bit of trouble believing that one. I don't care what you think is in the school records that O'Mara subpoenaed and received two weeks ago.
OK judge skimmer...there is this funny thing we do in America called a trial.....I guess you support that as long as they agree with you eh?

see ya in 5 or 6 months......

Latest news.......school records, face book, gang tats, bloody Zimmerman photos, etc. are in by the way..........LOL
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#19 Feb 7, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Prior bad acts are only admissible in certain limited situations in order to show the likelihood of the accused to have committed the crime in question.
Trayvon has not been accused of any crime.
And the forensic evidence contradicts most of what Zimmerman has claimed happened that night.
So--when it comes to that key set of details where he claims that Trayvon accosted him (using outdated dialogue from some blackspoitation film of the 70s), knocked him to the ground with a single blow, and simultaneously banged George's head on the pavement, while delivering blows to the face, covering George's mouth and nose so as to smother him AND slid his hand down George's side to grab the gun (behind his own thigh)--oh and somehow managed to travel two houses down in the process--well, the jury might have just a bit of trouble believing that one. I don't care what you think is in the school records that O'Mara subpoenaed and received two weeks ago.
you are clueless

Trayvon is charged as a thug that was splitting open the head of the defendant till the defendant shot the suspect dead.

self defense....case closed.

next.

the trail is to determine if Trayvon deserved a bullet or not.

honestly, not a soul I can think of cares even a little bit what you think.

most see you as a traitor to this country.....those that don't are future target practice like you.

This country will not make 4 more years without an internal war amongst citizens.

your side started the war; and are going to lose it because of extreme measures.

keep laughing.
Spookhere F trolls

Detroit, MI

#20 Feb 7, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
you are clueless
Trayvon is charged as a thug that was splitting open the head of the defendant till the defendant shot the suspect dead.
self defense....case closed.
next.
the trail is to determine if Trayvon deserved a bullet or not.
honestly, not a soul I can think of cares even a little bit what you think.
most see you as a traitor to this country.....those that don't are future target practice like you.
This country will not make 4 more years without an internal war amongst citizens.
your side started the war; and are going to lose it because of extreme measures.
keep laughing.
How is and that diesel truck liking the cold? I have no problems with my diesels though some without glow plugs do require block heaters being plugged in or a drink of ether or propane on real cold days
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#21 Feb 7, 2013
Spookhere F trolls wrote:
<quoted text>
How is and that diesel truck liking the cold? I have no problems with my diesels though some without glow plugs do require block heaters being plugged in or a drink of ether or propane on real cold days
no issues yet

when it was real cold, when started it smoked and made lots of noise.

truck has 2 batteries; and 2 alternators.

I let truck sit and idle for a few minutes prior to moving.

after engine is warm, it purrs.

have you ever used a programmer tool to retune diesel?

Supposedly I can tune my truck with tool called efi live. My computer in truck will hold 5 separate tunes. The economy tune adds 110 rear wheel HP; and 5MPG on highway.

Heavy tow tune adds 25HP; but engine brake and turbo is changed.

you ever hear of this?

it is $800; but does save fuel. It will take alot of fill ups to save $800. But for heavy towing on highway this is supposed to be the berries.

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