The McCreary County Record - Jail woe...

The McCreary County Record - Jail woes cause rift to erupt

There are 72 comments on the www.mccrearyrecord.com story from Feb 21, 2008, titled The McCreary County Record - Jail woes cause rift to erupt. In it, www.mccrearyrecord.com reports that:

For weeks The McCreary County Record has been publishing reports regarding the financial difficulties that county jails have been causing for fiscal courts across the state.

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Joe Blow

Helenwood, TN

#1 Feb 23, 2008
Sounds like the judge exec. wants to blame the county's failing budget on anything and everything. Tony Ball wasn't given the opportunity to show how he's saving on food, phone service, not to mention how he could use the Christian Care Center to off-set medical needs, such as prescription meds needed by inmates for BP, heart conditions, diabetic meds and supplies, wound care,etc. There are many direct department expenditures that are legit. Maybe the So and Detention center should just take all needs for criminals and their housing to Blaines house. Since it is not a real requirement we have these two "courtesies" to our government.
Silly Sallie

Wartburg, TN

#2 Feb 24, 2008
I don't know why they are blaming the jail, it almost seems like the Judge thinks the jail is unnecessary. Well, it's not! As long as there's a living world, sadly there is going to be people breaking the law and I sure don't want them left out in the open. If a person is in jail, there is certain things that have to be provided to them. Medicines, food are necessities. But certain priviliges like tv and such should be earned by good behavior and good work in the jail. Our jail needs a lot of attention in regards to upkeep, paint, cleaning and these things could be done by some that are a low risk.
USMALE

Huntsville, TN

#3 Apr 1, 2008
Society demands jails. There will always be those that do not conform to legal discipline. Therefore, we must support the institutions called jails, detention centers, holding tanks, whatever the name. We must have places such as these to guarantee the safety of others. It's a fact of Life.

“Dontche See?”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#4 Apr 17, 2008
You spoke the truth! They should work in the jail and if aren't a flight risk should work outside to cut county costs where they can. Also the ones we see in court repeatedly for non-payment of fines should have to work for the county court to pay them off.
New Neighbor

Wartburg, TN

#5 Aug 25, 2008
I've heard of a new jail sometime soon. Is there any truth to it? At least it'll be jobs if they'll allow locals to work there.
ol country boy

Columbia, SC

#6 Sep 5, 2008
well being from mccreary county and seeing that blain phillips is going to blame the jail for their shortfalls we need to look at his office a little closer. the blaim game is played everytime something happens. the fiscal court has alloted x amount of full time positions that he (blain phillips and the court) will not let the jailer fill. they have allowed for several prn positions that has helped to offset some cost. but then we go back and ask where did the full time positions allotted for the jail go?? the cost of running the jail i'm sure has gone up from the time ray perry ran it. it has gone up from the time scott jones ran it. hey blain wake up. the cost of living is and has gone up. it's not staying in one place. its going to take more money to run the jail. let me ask you this, how much money does tony ball bring in for state prisioners? how much is paid to the county from the telephone service? oops. you didn't want people to know that stuff did you. well les see.... in a month tony brings to this county from state inmates about 30,000.00! thats right THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!! and you grip about the budget and some full time positions that are open and you won't allow him to fill them. how about that new jail?? the state pays approx. 1000.00 per state inmate per month. well lets do some numbers... 150 state inmate at 1000.00 per month?... i think that would come to about 1,800,000.00 per year. think we could pay for a jail with that? yeah you'll have expenses from that but i don't think that it would take that much. THINK ABOUT THE NUMBERS. would this money help the county? would it get the county out of some debt. Blain don't turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to mr ball. sit him down, you and him and look at the numbers. work out the details. check this out before you have a solid answer. just ask a few questions. thanks for your alls time.
Brother TeeRoy

Oneida, TN

#7 Sep 11, 2008
All this is true. Being able to house State Inmates brings in a lot of money for McCreary County Detention Center. Ol country boy you didn't mention how Tony cuts food costs with having to get a lot of items from the catholic center and christian center for free. Because he cannot afford to spend what must be spent on food to feed the inmates there. Past inmates tell that the food is very good, just not enough of it. It has to be served at about 1/2 a serving according to the Dietary recommendation. It is an old jail, which even at the time of it's construction was built entirely too small. McCreary County has outgrown it's (the jail's) capabilities over 2 decades ago. They have mostly good workers there. Tony Ball is doing a very good job, Connie Swain, Tommy, Greg & Terry Mason really know their job, so do the others I just remembered Earl too, alot of them I can't remember their names, just faces when I see them. I can only imagine the stress that goes on there and the hard job they do. But the fiscal court does seem to be figuring out that something positive does need to be done and are working on it.
McCreary Co resident

Columbia, SC

#8 Sep 11, 2008
Well, I have been sitting here looking at all these posts on how we need a new jail, how Tony Ball is bringing money into the county, from the jail. Sorry to tell you all this but.... Blaine Phillips isnt going to bring any new into McCreay County, he is a liar, and has one person in mind and thats himself. Until something that somes in here is going to line Blaine Phillips pocket, you can forget it. You all will just have to wait till the Co. Judge runs. Thats where we, as a community need to stand together, and go to the debates that the ones running have. Dont worry about Blaine he aint going to run again, he will bow out gracefully. Personally, I would like to kick him out right now, if only that could be done. The jail brings in money to the county, and Tony Ball, well he cuts corners where he can. He does the best with what he has to work with, and sometimes that aint alot. As far ass the guards at that jail, well, I know alot of them, and the ones I know, they work their tails off ding their jobs, most of them go beyond their job duties, DAILY!!!! Yeah we need a new jail, they could take the old one and make it some kind of other office, a non profit program, something to help the ones here.
guard at the jail

Columbia, SC

#9 Sep 11, 2008
well i work at the jail and would like to say we as a whole really do enjoy your comments. we try our hardest to make thing go as smooth as we can. all of us enjoy our jobs but see alot of room for improvement. we work well as a team and want to see better things for our county. the jailer has some awsome plans for a new jail that would include several new positions for new jail staff. he has also included in the plans several offices that could be housed in the new facility which includes but is not limited to the ems, the search and rescue, the sheriffs office, the state police office and an office for the kve and the 911 center which requires a secure facility to go enhanced, and possably an office for emergency maagement. then all these buildings that house these offices would be free to lease out to other people. all i'm asking is to keep tony in the office and support him in his quest to have a new facility built. he can creat new jobs, not only at the jail but during the construction. thank you for you time in reading my comments.
concerned

Huntsville, TN

#10 Sep 11, 2008
You spoke the truth! They should work in the jail and if aren't a flight risk should work outside to cut county costs where they can. Also the ones we see in court repeatedly for non-payment of fines should have to work for the county court to pay them off. 1 question festus since we know who u are now is your son troy baird going to be working his fines off or does he have any u are so judgemental in all post except when it comes to your son my comment is that some mess up and get in jail but dont act like u dont have a family member there too, and didbt u frequent parkhurst apts quite often and why lol
someone who wonders

London, KY

#11 Sep 12, 2008
as for tony ball hell never get it again hes hardly ever there the only good ones there is connie terry greg and sweet little tommy wish shed run her or connielot of making differences there ive witnessed itmyself i dont think tony stands a chance again as new jail with all them offices its a joke our countys in red so bad wake up smell the coffeee ive watched them read inmates mail thats ridiclous especially marie shes gets off on it cheers everyone
Wanting to Know

Lancing, TN

#12 Sep 17, 2008
New Neighbor wrote:
I've heard of a new jail sometime soon. Is there any truth to it? At least it'll be jobs if they'll allow locals to work there.
No Chance
just curious

Sunbright, TN

#13 Sep 19, 2008
someone who wonders wrote:
as for tony ball hell never get it again hes hardly ever there the only good ones there is connie terry greg and sweet little tommy wish shed run her or connielot of making differences there ive witnessed itmyself i dont think tony stands a chance again as new jail with all them offices its a joke our countys in red so bad wake up smell the coffeee ive watched them read inmates mail thats ridiclous especially marie shes gets off on it cheers everyone
Well, Tony Ball stands as good of a chance of getting back in there for Jailer, as the next person. Just because he is jailer, does that mean he is suppose to be there 24/7?? Nope, not really. Tony is a good jailer, he is more than fair with the inmates, and treats his staff very well. As far as the people that work at the jail, Tony has probably the best staff in there thats been in there for a long time. All of them step to the plate when needed. They are far from perfect, as any office in the county, but by far we have a good jail, and sherriff staff here. I just wish more funds were availlable to them, lord knows we need it. As far as reading the mail, well first off you need to have been an inmate or work there to see who gets off on what. Plus, I know Marie, and for your information, she dont work the shift that checks the mail. You are right, our county is in the red, again, I say to people, its up to us to make the changes happen here. We have to have the facilities, and the funding to make a difference, and most important have the back up from the higher up officials that hold office to help make it a better county, and get it out the red. When that happens, you may some change here, which i dont see happening any time soon.
Remington

Helenwood, TN

#14 Sep 19, 2008
First, I want to commend all the staff at the McCreary County Detention Center. Theirs is a very hard job and also about as stressful a job as one can have. I donot pick out any one employee or officer in particular because they work as a whole unit. Our county has long outgrown it's meager capacity. Still, it functions well and does what it can with what little it has. Hopefully, the county will be able to build a bigger one. We all know that it's the loudest and the most persistant that can get what they want. As with any inner government of a small town, there are limits to what finances can allow. In McCreary's case, fiscal court tends to sometimes be unable to achieve all that is needed at one time. I too see repeat offenders coming in to the courts for not paying on fines imposed because of their arrests and/or cases. The idea presented by one of the posters that these people work off debts incrued by working in some job to pay off these fines and charges sounds great. Don't take jobs otherwise held by a working man/woman. The theory is good, as long as it does not take a job held by someone else. You've got to have a guard to oversee these prisoners, transportation to and from the said job,and paperwork to fill out. My concern remains with the logic vs. the feasibility of an option like this. We need to remember that most are court costs, payments for damages and/or as a result of thefts of some sort. Wage garnishment could be an option, but then most wouldn't work a public job because of the garnishment. Setting up a military requirement could take care of this.
Legally require those offenders, regardless of health condition to serve in the military at some level to match their physical and mental capabilities, being it an active soldier or peeling potatoes until the debt is secured. That makes more sense than seeing them over and over again in the courts for the same thing.
Patriot

Sunbright, TN

#15 Nov 8, 2008
Here's a question, What is the county govt. doinf with our occupational tax money? why are we still broke?
Election

Oakdale, TN

#16 Nov 8, 2008
ask blain and jc that question
what

Whitley City, KY

#17 Nov 8, 2008
Remington wrote:
First, I want to commend all the staff at the McCreary County Detention Center. Theirs is a very hard job and also about as stressful a job as one can have. I donot pick out any one employee or officer in particular because they work as a whole unit. Our county has long outgrown it's meager capacity. Still, it functions well and does what it can with what little it has. Hopefully, the county will be able to build a bigger one. We all know that it's the loudest and the most persistant that can get what they want. As with any inner government of a small town, there are limits to what finances can allow. In McCreary's case, fiscal court tends to sometimes be unable to achieve all that is needed at one time. I too see repeat offenders coming in to the courts for not paying on fines imposed because of their arrests and/or cases. The idea presented by one of the posters that these people work off debts incrued by working in some job to pay off these fines and charges sounds great. Don't take jobs otherwise held by a working man/woman. The theory is good, as long as it does not take a job held by someone else. You've got to have a guard to oversee these prisoners, transportation to and from the said job,and paperwork to fill out. My concern remains with the logic vs. the feasibility of an option like this. We need to remember that most are court costs, payments for damages and/or as a result of thefts of some sort. Wage garnishment could be an option, but then most wouldn't work a public job because of the garnishment. Setting up a military requirement could take care of this.
Legally require those offenders, regardless of health condition to serve in the military at some level to match their physical and mental capabilities, being it an active soldier or peeling potatoes until the debt is secured. That makes more sense than seeing them over and over again in the courts for the same thing.
They cant serve military time with a criminal record.
what

Whitley City, KY

#18 Nov 8, 2008
Something to think about is this. The cost at the Jail will continue to rise with the economy.
We have a high rate of crime here in this county which also will raise the cost of operation of the jail. It will only get worse with the current economic situation. There is alot of poverty here in this county poverty and crime go hand in hand. The stats have shown it.

Blaine doesnt take that in to consideration.
lala

Wartburg, TN

#19 Nov 27, 2008
I think our jail needs a lot of work ,,the inmates need better medical treatment,just because they r locked up for crimes,,dont make them deserve a lesser quality of medical treatment,,diabetics need their insulin on time,,as well as anyone who recieves oral medicine needs it on time,some medical conditions can be life threatning without proper medication,,cleaner conditions as well,,the inmates should be made to clean there cells,or loose priveliges,this would probably cut down on staff infections,,and other viral and bacterial infections,from spreading around the jail.
well well

Oliver Springs, TN

#20 Nov 28, 2008
they get their meds on time. they are made to clean also. if they need to go to the hospital they are transported. i dont know how is giving out this information but you are lying.
we could have a better jail if there was money to fund. There seems to be a big crime problem here which will milk the budget. There is a problem with jail systems state wide. there is a shortage of funds state wide. so looks like to me the county needs to come up with a good crime prevention program but that would cost extra to.
so either way it goes the jails are screwed.

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