Bonny Doon volunteer firefighters get unexpected gift

Bonny Doon volunteer firefighters thought they were getting a free meal when they joined other emergency responders at a thank-you luncheon put on by Lockheed Martin on Tuesday, but they received much more. Full Story
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Coulrophobia

San Bruno, CA

#22 Sep 9, 2009
generosity wrote:
I dare the various nay-sayers who live in the Bonny Doon area to donate as much as Lockheed has. By all means restrict the donation: SCBA, AEDs, turnout gear, 4x4 bandages if you are a cheap skate. Even better, why don't you put your own hard work and time and energy into becoming a volunteer firefighter?
I wonder if Lockheed has policies that would allow their career employees paid time off to respond to volunteer fire calls and/or participate in fire trainings. That would help with the biggest issue for a volunteer department, which is daytime responders.
If you don't live in Bonny Doon, what do you care for? It takes a child to raze a village ...
Gee -- what a fine and neighborly neighbor you are, gen. Poisonous is more like it. Your tone reveals plenty about you.

It is possible to support and value, and adore, and be grateful to the BD Volunteer Fire Team, and yet disagree with the Board's effort to establish an independent district. My suggestion is that a legal fund be established,**entirely separate**(not just on paper) from the fund that supports the team. That way, people can donate knowing that their contribution is not funding an effort they do not endorse.

BTW, the PayPal donation link on the fire team's Web site has been disabled for some reason.
Steve Homan

Santa Cruz, CA

#23 Sep 10, 2009
Coulrophobia wrote:
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So you are saying that there is more than one fund established to receive donations? Because the Web site for the volunteers says otherwise, implying that the Board has access to and control of all funds:
"The Board has the legal responsibility for managing the business affairs of the corporation, and thereby the Team.
No, not at all.

What I am saying is that the funds for the lawsuit, which are a pittance (about $12,000) have ALREADY been earned by the team and received from past donations, and that they have been allocated by the Fire Team Board.

Please let me add that of the $450,000 in taxes collected annually in Bonny Doon for CSA #48 County Fire, only a very small amount of these funds find their way back to the VOLUNTEER operation.

Recently, the County and Cal Fire have been SHAMED into using CSA #48 funds to finance an off season fire station located in Bonny Doon (Amador style station), in addition to Cal Fire's recent arrival for the fire season at the same station.

If $450,000 in fire taxes is collected from Bonny Doon, and $160,000 is spent on the Cal Fire off season Amador style station in Bonny Doon, and if $50,000 or less in training and equipment filters down through Cal Fire to the volunteers, WHAT IS COUNTY FIRE DOING WITH THE OTHER $240,000 OF BONNY DOON TAX MONEY??? The County and Cal Fire are spending it elsewhere in other communities. Enough !!!!!!!

Bonny Doon is still getting the fuzzy end of the financial lollipop, as it has for decades. A fire district is the answer to improved fire protection and to improved medical response in Bonny Doon, just as it is in Felton, Ben Lomond, Zayante, Boulder Creek, and Branciforte.(3/4 of the calls are medical/rescue.)

Bonny Doon needs and wants a local fire district with paid staff and volunteers that are trained and equipped for fire fighting AND medical emergencies. Cal Fire cannot offer this level of service; the Cal Fire charge is to control wildland fires throughout the state.
Cheatos

Hayward, CA

#24 Sep 10, 2009
Coulrophobia, I did not know that website existed before today.
Cheatos

Hayward, CA

#25 Sep 10, 2009
I couldn't copy something I didn't know about. The info I gave out I had HEARD over the phone & in person from my daughter [who just graduated from UCSC and lives in Bonny Doon] as well as her boyfriend who lives in Santa Cruz.

I mean, this is so f'ing ABSURD. People dissing everybody whichway. I tried to write out things that I believed were true or helpful. But NO-OO-OO-OO. On this site, as in many others the SENdInOL carries, it's a free-for-all of angst and gnashing of teeth. These sites where the hateful bash the haters, where every lunatic and curmudgeon can lash out and feel their EGO-driven anger splash out on their keyboards and magically electrify every screen that is connected. Shoot, if I didn't care, I wouldn't be writing this. I think I'm going to quit writing. Who gives a flying fig anyway? Horsefeathers! I'll stop. I should start beading or play my guitar. These sites are useless.
BDVF-R

Santa Cruz, CA

#26 Sep 10, 2009
Yay! Go Bonny Doon!
Bonny Doon Fire District, "Whatever It Takes"!
it takes all kinds

Santa Cruz, CA

#30 Sep 10, 2009
Cheatos wrote:
... I tried to write out things that I believed were true or helpful. But NO-OO-OO-OO. On this site... it's a free-for-all of angst and gnashing of teeth... where every lunatic and curmudgeon can lash out... Who gives a flying fig anyway?
Yes... much of discourse here is of the "Shut up Moron" type. But there are useful exceptions, with some posters offering information and perspective that's largely otherwise unavailable. Even if distasteful, it's possible to step around fallen drunks and ignore arrogant panhandlers... and it's also possible to "overlook" the angry blathering of posters who have nothing to contribute.
Steve Homan

Santa Cruz, CA

#31 Sep 10, 2009
Common Sense wrote:
Calfire should just pull out of BD, you morons have no idea how much it takes to fund and run a fire dept.
Your getting a bargain for fire service and you just a bunch of ignorant ingrates.
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From the LAFCO report, it takes 160,000 dollars per year or so to fund the "Amador style station" (off-fire season station) in Bonny Doon. We pay $450,000 in taxes. It is no bargain. I welcome Cal Fire to Bonny Doon, but its presence does not answer all of our needs for a locally funded fire district that can respond at a high level to medical aid and accidents. We can afford it with the taxes we already pay.

I am pretty sure I am not ignorant, and how can I be an ingrate when Cal Fire is being paid with our tax money to be here off season? All that is beiing asked is for Bonny Doon to be able to have an election to form its own district at its own expense. What could be more American than that?
Steve Homan

Santa Cruz, CA

#32 Sep 10, 2009
By the way, I use my own name here. I challenge other posters to do the same.
John Galt

Santa Cruz, CA

#33 Sep 10, 2009
WE INTERRUPT THIS CAT FIGHT TO BRING YOU A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.

The article was about LOCKHEED MARTIN donating $10,000.00 to Bonny Doon Fire.

Can all of you people say "Thank You Lockheed Martin" ?

Please ?

Thanks.

You may now resume the cat fight and name calling.
Coulrophobia

San Bruno, CA

#34 Sep 10, 2009
Steve Homan wrote:
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... Recently, the County and Cal Fire have been SHAMED into using CSA #48 funds to finance an off season fire station located in Bonny Doon (Amador style station), in addition to Cal Fire's recent arrival for the fire season at the same station.
If $450,000 in fire taxes is collected from Bonny Doon, and $160,000 is spent on the Cal Fire off season Amador style station in Bonny Doon, and if $50,000 or less in training and equipment filters down through Cal Fire to the volunteers, WHAT IS COUNTY FIRE DOING WITH THE OTHER $240,000 OF BONNY DOON TAX MONEY??? The County and Cal Fire are spending it elsewhere in other communities. Enough !!!!!!!...
I interpreted the move by Cal Fire as a concession to BD, and perhaps a sign that the agency fears the districting effort might eventually succeed. I don't see the "shame" aspect at all.

I know that BD taxes support firefighting efforts in areas that are less densely populated and/or have lower property values. That's the way it works, and I don't see a huge problem with it. Some of those areas are adjacent to BD (Davenport, Swanton...) and a fire there is potentially a fire here... as was demonstrated in the Lockheed fire.

That's just my opinion. I don't know what proportion of BD residents are for or against the districting effort. I do know that there are many against it, and it doesn't mean that they (we) are any less supportive of the volunteer fire team than are those supporting the lawsuit.

And, yes, thank you to Lockheed for the donation. Now how about Cemex, whose timberlands were part of the fire as well?

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