Train death toll climbs to 18

Train death toll climbs to 18

There are 51 comments on the LA Daily News story from Sep 13, 2008, titled Train death toll climbs to 18. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

Emergency crews found more victims early Saturday in the mangled wreckage of a commuter train that smashed head-on into a freight train, killing 18 people in what was the deadliest U.S. passenger train accident ...

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#42 Sep 14, 2008
It just breaks my heart and brings tears to my eyes reading about some of the victims especially the 19 year old student who had such a promising future.
It just raises my anger as to WHY the RailRoad companies refuse to install the existing technology because of cost!
I hope they will reconsider that while they're paying out the cost of this horrific accident both in human life and money.
Metolink Rider

Los Angeles, CA

#43 Sep 14, 2008
Metrolink is deeply concerned for all the money they will be liable for once the FBI & NTSB(or whatever it's called) completes it's independent investigation. Riders who take the same Ventura county line know that signaling issues have been persistent for some time know especially during raining season. The traffic control system is basically broken. That's exactly why Metrolink control center did not reach the engineer in time until it was too late. Metrolink would like the public to think it was the now deceased engineer's fault. DON'T BELIEVE METROLINK for a second. Their only concern is chiefly their gold coin coffers.
1st Amendment

Lincoln, CA

#44 Sep 14, 2008
All American citizens have the right to express themselves. Even if your expressed opinion is accurate and truthfull, you have the responsibility to others to choose the time and place to express that opinion. While I may agree with the opinions objected to by West Valley Dave Smith, I would not have expressed them on this site at this time. My prayers go to the injured and the friends and families of the deceased.
Deborah SoCal

Lytle Creek, CA

#45 Sep 14, 2008
Ist Amendment you are exactly right.
KCAL9 interviewed the rail fans who knew the engineer and had received a short text from him at 4;22p.m. on their phone.Of course we, the public, don't know when he sent it; That could have been at the last stop.
LAFD was on the scene in minutes and were impressive. An E.R. doc said they literally saved lives by the quick response and excellent handling of the situation - injured.
Jeff Hancock

South Pasadena, CA

#46 Sep 14, 2008
Are you sure the signal wasn't somehow disabled either on the tracks or on the train? Is it audible to the train engineer? Is it just a flashing light that could be missed if looking at something else?
Jeff Hancock

South Pasadena, CA

#47 Sep 14, 2008
Jackie Sua, of Apple Valley, CA, how does your mom know the signal wasn't working?

There is a prayer meeting at Grace Brethren Church in Simi Valley at 6:00pm tonight. The address is 2900 Sycamore Drive, Simi Valley, CA 93065

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#48 Sep 14, 2008
Hey Jeff, I don't think there would have been a red signal, visible to Jackie's mom, unless there was another train comin' down the track, in the opposite direction. Are there any train geeks out there who know how the signals are supposed to operate on a clear track, vs. an occupied track?

San Antonio, TX

#49 Sep 14, 2008
Why does Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa feel that the community's clergy need his instructions on how to memorialize these tragic deaths?

His governmental guidance is not required on everything that happens in our community. A simple statement of sympathy would have served much better.

Cypress, CA

#50 Sep 15, 2008
Scary Larry wrote:
I believe that this accident could have been avoided if Metrolink had not had to share track rights with a freight train. Over the centuries many a train wreck has occurred because passenger trains were sharing the same tracks as freight trains. Many people have died as a result.
Another way to avoid catastrophes when using alarms that trigger emergency signals is to check the response times. How long would it take to contact the engineer in an event? How fast is the train traveling and how far is it able to travel after it trips an alarm before someone is able to contact the engineer? How long would it take to stop the train?[Trains take great distances to stop.] In this situation, the speed of both trains would be needed.
Yet it all goes back to the same problem,... two trains headed toward each other on the same track at the same time. That's too much like playing Russian roulette; sidings are great but not always the best answer and, here it clearly didn't work. What happens in a similar situation if the engineer has a heart attack and no one else is in the cab?
My opinion,... someone cut corners on their budget in the best interest of the stock holders and not the passengers or general public.
My sincere condolences to all. May God give you peace.
I hear you, but trains have not been around for "centuries."

Monrovia, CA

#51 Sep 15, 2008
The media is doing what the media does. Making noise.

Let the NTSB sort it out. They're the professionals.

In the mean time, Larry H. Parker is out there making a new commercial...

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#52 Sep 15, 2008
May God give the families of the deceased strength, courage, comfort and love, in their time of need, and the knowledge that others DO care. We should all realize that at any moment, we too, will leave this earth and act accordingly. Bless all the people that came to help. Sending prayers for a speedy recovery for everyone else involved.

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