SuperSonics Choose Renton As Arena Site
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#1 Feb 14, 2007
all I can say is let them move
#2 Feb 14, 2007
Is it not time to say wait on the spending for sports that only benefit a few????? This could easily cost us taxpayers 500 million and yet we actually have people going hungry (children) every day......where are the priorities....Sims is a egomanaic that is trying to build a sports center (again) on the backs of the poor.....It this stadium were filled for each event, what is the percent of the King county population that would benefit???? THINK ABOUT IT.
#3 Feb 14, 2007
Typical Seattle hicks.
I am getting sick of Seattle being so hesitant of becoming a major metropolitan city.
Major metropolitan cities have transportation systems (often several interconnecting systems), population density and they attract business with tax breaks and land grants, they also have major sports teams. It's just the way it works.
I don't think building a new stadium is the right answer but just letting them leave is stupid.
#4 Feb 16, 2007
Wow, I wish I lived in a world where I could ramble about with nice sounding rhetoric that has no basis in reality.
To start with this is about a public facility that will be used about 225 nights a year and will benifit everyone in the region. Thousands of jobs for the poor and family wage jobs will be created to operate, maintain, and staff the facility.
Secondly it is a myth that there are a significant number of people going hungry in King County. Homelessness is a problem, but meals programs and foodbanks make sure that we do not have people starving in this region. But even so creating this facility will help grow the economy and help provide jobs that will make it better for the poor in the region.
Third the public investment is fixed at $300 million with any cost over runs being picked up by the private sector. This is the same model used in building both the baseball and football stadiums and worked well. Both have been huge success's despite what the critics feared when they were built. Unlike those however the arena has less impact on infrastructure but is used far more often. The NBA would only use 41-50 of those 250 dates with the rest being NHL, AFL, MISL, concerts, ice shows, trade shows, flat shows, conventions, etc many of which are passing on coming to Seattle now because Key Arena can not support them. Of all the facilities the arena would have the greatest impact on the economy at the lease cost. Cities around the country build arenas like this without NBA teams because it makes financial sense. They don't build football or baseball stadiums unless they have teams or a commitment to getting teams if they build them.
You ask about our priorities, and that is a good question, but people like you keep electing the same people who want to dig tunnels, tear out rail lines for bike trails, spend billions on sewage treatment plants that could be built for 1/7th the cost, spend up to $450 million for Light Rail that doesn't go where the people need it to go when there are solutions that cost a fraction of that and would better serve the people sooner, and other mega projects that actually are being loaded up on the backs of the poor.(continued)
#5 Feb 16, 2007
Your are right about Ron Sims, he is a horrible executive who is taxing people out of their homes and making it impossible for us to have affordable housing in this county.
However the sports facilities have nothing to do with that problem. Your claim that they are funded on the backs of the poor is hogwash. Do the poor rent cars? Do the poor rent hotels rooms? Do the poor eat at Canlis?
No, they don't, and that is where the revenue to build these facilites come from. Yes, if you goto McDonalds and buy a greaseburger meal you spend 1 to 2 cents that are going to fund these facilities. Insignificant. However when you are poor and you goto get a gallon of gas about 15% of that is taxes that are being raised every year to fund wastefull projects. The State will waste more money in construction mistakes due to inept planning and engineering than is spent on sports stadiums.
When this facility is built companies (like Microsoft and Boeing) who are taking corporate meetings out of state because we don't have a facility to host them. This is 10's of thousands of people traveling INTO the area for these events who are going elsewhere now. This is hotel rooms, meals, shopping, etc. Who benifits from those? The poor who will work those housekeeping, waitress, sales clerk, jobs.
So yes, THINK ABOUT IT. But think about the facts, not some fantasy, and see that your tunnel vision about this issue is completly wrong. This has little to do with the NBA and a LOT to do with making this region more successful which helps EVERYONE.
#6 Feb 16, 2007
You sure hit that right on the head. Seattle suffers from a complete lack of leadership and intelligence.
They voted many times saying yes to building a Monorail but the city didn't like being told what to do so they refused to build it. When they finally were forced to they spent all their time trying to kill it. They used a financing model that they got from Sound Transit and then the Mayor made a big show of killing the project after they spent 100's of millions already. Then guess what? Sound Transit announced days after the election that they were going to use the same financing scheme. If voters approve ST2 this fall they will put themselves on the hook for a $1 TRILLION debt because of it. Morons, all of them.
They fight for years over building a tunnel to replace the viaduct. They can't agree on anything there and the price keeps skyrocketing.
They voted to prevent the city from spending money on a new arena for the Sonics but were so stupid and shortsighted that they didn't read the fine print and shot themselves in the foot because they now can't even extend the lease for the team to stay in the existing building. They just bought themselves a $50 million bill for that moronic screw up.
They pay taxes to maintain the roads but got suckered by the Mayor into passing a levy to tax themselves for road repairs so that the city can now divert the money they already paid to social engineering.
I am SOOOOOO glad I don't live in the city limits of Seatte, where the moto shouldn't be "Metronatural" it should be "Stupid is as stupid does".
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