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dyehard39

United States

#1 Aug 1, 2008
NEVADA SAMPLE BALLO

I received my sample ballot today. As an English speaking citizen I am sending it back to the Registrars office. I will not accept it.

It is too confusing to try and separate the English from the Spanish.

It is my understanding that only citizens of this country are allowed to vote and one of the requirement of being a citizen is you must read, speak and understand English. So why are these ballots in Spanish and Englis

The English is in black and the Spanish is in red and it is just too confusing to disciple. By the time I read one part in English, read past the Spanish I have forgotten what I have read in English. I hope children in school do not have to go though this.

For this reason I will not be casting a vote in this primary election. And if I receive another one like this one in the November election, I will not cast a vote then

When will I get my sample ballot in my native language? Choctaw.

If I am required to read, speak and understand English, others who want to live in this country should also.



NATIVE AMERICAN GRANNY.

RENO,NV
Calm Down Please

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Aug 12, 2008
You aren't required to read, write, and understand English. It just helps you greatly. Be gracious you have an advantage over people coming to this country trying to start anew.
Also not everyone that speaks "Enlis" (You're word!) as their secondary language is illegal. LONG LIVE ZION GO AMURICA!
Take it from the

Carson City, NV

#3 Aug 12, 2008
~Is it not true by legality and being and AMERICAN?! I agree with Native American Granny. Stop excusing peoples behavior who do not want nor try to be an AMERICAN CITIZEN PERIOD.~
Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN
"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
dyehard39

Reno, NV

#5 Aug 13, 2008
whoopy wrote:
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BULLSHIT, first I can read spanish, this Spanish seems more regional, or better yet more of a spanish/latin that we all can understand, much I can read and understand hearing french and italian and some german, even read some dutch, it' s not the word, the meaning. Now, I'm for be here, SPEAk english, learn english, when I want a taco..........
What are you saying? You lost me in the traslation.
Profesora

Bethesda, MD

#7 Aug 21, 2008
dyehard39 wrote:
NEVADA SAMPLE BALLO
I received my sample ballot today. As an English speaking citizen I am sending it back to the Registrars office. I will not accept it.
It is too confusing to try and separate the English from the Spanish.
It is my understanding that only citizens of this country are allowed to vote and one of the requirement of being a citizen is you must read, speak and understand English. So why are these ballots in Spanish and Englis
The English is in black and the Spanish is in red and it is just too confusing to disciple. By the time I read one part in English, read past the Spanish I have forgotten what I have read in English. I hope children in school do not have to go though this.
For this reason I will not be casting a vote in this primary election. And if I receive another one like this one in the November election, I will not cast a vote then
When will I get my sample ballot in my native language? Choctaw.
If I am required to read, speak and understand English, others who want to live in this country should also.
NATIVE AMERICAN GRANNY.
RENO,NV
Did you mean "decifer" when you wrote "disciple"?! Talk about irony...
Porcelina

Las Vegas, NV

#8 Oct 3, 2008
You are a f*cking racist.
NOWHERE has America ever named an official language. White people just ASSUMED it would be English, cause that is what you speak. Now, my family is all from Mexico. And yes, they are here legally. They can vote. And yes, they speak English. But have you ever tried to read something like a ballot in a language that is not your first language? It can be very confusing. What is wrong with making sure that all US citizens have the right to vote?
The world does not revolve around you.
Your sense of entitlement disgusts me.
Katie

Reno, NV

#9 Oct 3, 2008
My they can order one in Spanish... I don't think it makes him rasist..
kev

Incline Village, NV

#10 Oct 3, 2008
Why does it make someone racist to expect people to learn english. Your sense of entitlement is what is disgusting. English has been the language of this country since it was founded get used to it. People shouldn't be able to be voting citizens in this country if they can't read and write english plain and simple. Is it so much to ask when you come to this country to learn the language, there is no way to be a fully functioning member of this society if one can't read or write the language. Is there dutch or German on the the thing cause that could be racist how can we expect immigrants from Germany to be able to read it if they want to vote. WE are not here to cater to people who are to lazy to learn the language of the country THEY DECIDED TO COME TO.
Get Your Facts Straight

Las Vegas, NV

#11 Oct 9, 2008
To dyehard39:
At the very bottom of the Election Department - Clark County, Nevada web page under Formatting it states: "All sample ballots are printed in a large 14-point font. Federal law requires sample ballots to be in both English and Spanish."
See for yourself. http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/depts/electi...
If the sample ballot is too confusing for you to read, then maybe you're right - you shouldn't be voting. But since this is obviously an issue to you, why don't you do something about it instead of just refusing to vote because you can't find your own language? Millions of other Americans can still read their sample ballots.
To Calm Down Please: It is true that one of the requirements of being a U.S. citizen is you must "#7 have the ability to read, write, speak, and understand simple words and phrases in English" --quoted from Immigration Law Center: http://www.visaus.com/citizen.html
I still don't agree with the original poster's reason not to vote.
Jamie

Reno, NV

#12 Oct 10, 2008
I'm shocked that you would simply NOT vote as a way of protesting Spanish on your ballot. Your vote could have helped STOP Spanish from being on your next ballot.

*Example*
Dean Heller has introduced the following bill:

"American Elections Act of 2008 - Amends the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require, except as provided for under this Act, that all ballots and balloting material used in federal elections be only in the English language."

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd...
Lynn

Reno, NV

#13 Oct 10, 2008
If she feels this way, I'm glad she's not voting.
Meg

Las Vegas, NV

#14 Oct 15, 2008
I can't believe there are still so many people today who think this way. People come to America for opportunity and face many challenges everyday. It is more difficult to read english then it is to speak it so I understand why the ballots are written in both english and spanish.
THEY COLOR CODED THE BALLOT FOR YOU!! and you still cant read it. I'm glad youre not voting ignorant racist people are not who we need voting in this election.
Eric Silverman

Reno, NV

#15 Oct 16, 2008
First, I have yet to receive a sample ballot; nor can I find one for the upcoming election three weeks away.
Second, reading/writing/speaking English are all requirements of US citizenship. At least they were when my girlfriend (from Mexico City) took and passed the tests in 2005.
Lastly, why try to educate "We the people"? Most of the Americans I talk with are so far beneath helping because they have been brainwashed with TV opinion, I have to wonder why you waste your breath.
Zack

Las Vegas, NV

#16 Oct 17, 2008
There is a phone number on the ballot with the intention of helping you vote. Any reasonable accommodation can and WILL be made.

I got my sample ballot tonight, I know of several people who haven't gotten it yet, but most likely they will receive them tomorrow or the next day.
HistoryGirl

Carson City, NV

#17 Oct 20, 2008
When this country was "founded" Nevada was still a part of Mexico genius. And guess what they spoke here? Learn your history.
kev wrote:
Why does it make someone racist to expect people to learn english. Your sense of entitlement is what is disgusting. English has been the language of this country since it was founded get used to it. People shouldn't be able to be voting citizens in this country if they can't read and write english plain and simple. Is it so much to ask when you come to this country to learn the language, there is no way to be a fully functioning member of this society if one can't read or write the language. Is there dutch or German on the the thing cause that could be racist how can we expect immigrants from Germany to be able to read it if they want to vote. WE are not here to cater to people who are to lazy to learn the language of the country THEY DECIDED TO COME TO.
Si_Means_Yes

Reno, NV

#18 Oct 21, 2008
Regardless if Spanish appears on the sample ballot as a secondary language, you should still vote! That is a lame excuse to ignore one of the greatest freedoms we AMERICANS have.
What is the difference between that ballot and "press 1 for English"? Do you hang up the phone when you hear that? Do you not use your ATM when prompted to "press here for English"?
If you don't like it, use your voice and be attempt to be heard. Not voting silences your gripe.
Enlish

United States

#19 Oct 21, 2008
this country was built on emigrants....... what is your problem. Americans speak many different languages, that is why we are a melting pot. Get a fricken life.
kev

Incline Village, NV

#20 Oct 21, 2008
When this country was "founded" Nevada was still a part of Mexico genius. And guess what they spoke here? Learn your history.
And before that there were native Americans here. What the hell is your point, The whole this used to be part of Mexico argument is complete bull crap and you know it bottom line is English is the language of this country If you don't like it leave or deal with not understanding ballots written in English. You can not be a fully functioning member of this society if you don't speak English. And as far as I'm concerned if your not contributing to our society in a positive way get the hell out. I could care less what else you speak but you need to be able to speak the language of the country you live in.
"this country was built on emigrants....... what is your problem. Americans speak many different languages, that is why we are a melting pot. Get a fricken life. "
This country was founded by immigrants that came here and assimilated into the culture, IE learning the language, not asking for hand outs. They worked hard to earn a life they couldn't get at home. The American dream has become "What can I get for free, with the least amount of effort" I mean Jesus why is it so hard to learn the language of a country your living in. If I went to live the rest of my life in japan it would be #1 priority to learn Japanese..
Tommy

Las Vegas, NV

#21 Oct 23, 2008
Go to any fast food chain in this day and age and you can hardly order. Instead of hiring high school kids who might be less reliable, a company will hire an illegal immigrant. It's fair to say if you don't speak english you probably speak spanish. The people that take offense to this comment probably have illegal family members or are an illegal themselves. Yeah this may have been Mexico once but you sold the land. Someone created an unstable economy which a hundred years later lead to poverty. Don't jump over the border and tell me what your rights should be. Go back to your nation and make it strong again. We fought to make this a strong nation without you and now you want it back. We bought and invested in this land and it's not for sale. Jobs at entry level shouldn't go to the 35 year old illegal... Give it back to the high school kids. Unions need to start recruiting from the schools not from the borders. You vermin, you viruses, are poison to our economy.
AyHyperbole

Reno, NV

#22 Oct 24, 2008
I'm thrilled that you won't be voting this November. I received my sample ballot, here in Reno, and I'm proud to say that it's very easy for me to tell which sections are in English and which sections are in Spanish. Really, I think your average third grader would not find this ballot "too confusing."

Given that you appear to be both a raging bigot and very, very easily confused, it's probably better that you don't vote.

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