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Parent

Tulsa, OK

#1 May 15, 2013
What are the team sponsors exactly for? I paid the registration fee, bought every piece of the uniform except a shirt, we have to provide our own helmets & bats and now we are being asked to pay tourney fees.
mumsy

United States

#2 May 15, 2013
Sounds like the sponsors are getting free ads that make it look like theyre supporting local youth. Up the ante for sponsors, or have their name taken off the uniform you paid for.
TJK

Waterloo, IL

#3 May 16, 2013
Parent wrote:
What are the team sponsors exactly for? I paid the registration fee, bought every piece of the uniform except a shirt, we have to provide our own helmets & bats and now we are being asked to pay tourney fees.
You need to contact the board of directors and let them know about this.
filters

Smithton, IL

#4 May 17, 2013
As sponsors we are donating to the community and hope to get a little bit of publicity along with the goodwill towards the community.

Feel free to tell your team's sponsor you do not want a free shirt and do not want us to pay for your child's shirt.

Marketing dollars can be spent in other ways.

I prefer to mutually benefit from somebody else putting their name on my kids' jerseys if they are willing to pay for the shirt. It is a FREE JERSEY.

Have you considered playing in select leagues in the metro areas? Out of pocket expenses start at $ 500, however expect to pay $ 1,000 or more, plus traveling costs/hotels/food/days off work...

We have it pretty good, lets not screw this up!!
Parent

Saint Louis, MO

#5 May 17, 2013
filters wrote:
As sponsors we are donating to the community and hope to get a little bit of publicity along with the goodwill towards the community.
Feel free to tell your team's sponsor you do not want a free shirt and do not want us to pay for your child's shirt.
Marketing dollars can be spent in other ways.
I prefer to mutually benefit from somebody else putting their name on my kids' jerseys if they are willing to pay for the shirt. It is a FREE JERSEY.
Have you considered playing in select leagues in the metro areas? Out of pocket expenses start at $ 500, however expect to pay $ 1,000 or more, plus traveling costs/hotels/food/days off work...
We have it pretty good, lets not screw this up!!
The question that was posed was in regards to what does the sponsor pay for???? We pay registration fees and provide every piece of the uniform, bats, balls, pay for a place to practice indoors (gym) when the fields are too wet. I also pay $ not to have to work the concession stands. But now we are being asked to pay fees for a tournament and playoffs (which I can't understand as we only a few weeks into the season). No I don't want my child to play select. That's why we chose the RBAA because I cannot afford to pay thousands of dollars. I just don't see what the sponsor $$$ actually pays for when parents are being asked for $ for everything except for a shirt. We paid for even a cap this year.
And hey, I have supported our team sponsor on a few occasions but then found out how truly overpriced they are on their cars and have taken my business elsewhere thankyouverymuch.
Dave RBAA

Red Bud, IL

#6 May 17, 2013
If you don't like it go play select! I have spoken so listen.
filters

Smithton, IL

#7 May 17, 2013
Speaking as a parent, these are OUR kids, not the sponsors kids. I do not expect somebody else to foot my bills.

The coaches and parents decide what tourneys to enter, not the sponsors and not the kids.

Ask before the season starts so we know what to expect-tourneys, expenses, donated hours, etc.

As a sponsor, I will politely entertain the thought of paying more. Then I will respectfully spend my $$ elsewhere resulting in a loss for the RBAA and the kids. A uniform costs between $ 50 and $ 120 or more. Do we, as parents, truly expect a business to spend $ 800 to $ 1,500 a team?

Please attend the meetings, get involved, add to the effort. Lets quit hiding on here.
Parent

Saint Louis, MO

#8 May 17, 2013
I am really hoping the Dave RBAA isn't Dave Gregson. I am hoping you are a classier act than that. When we signed up a 7 year old for ball, I wasn't expecting to be asked every other practice for more money. That is the point of the post in the first place.

And if it is Dave, then just an FYI, those ball caps we had to pay $12 for are pieces of crap. And the shirts aren't that great either.
Parent

Saint Louis, MO

#9 May 17, 2013
I don't expect anyone else to foot my kids bills either, however, I also know that at registration we aren't given anything to know that there would be fee after fee after fee. And no, our coaches have not consulted the parents regarding tournament entries. We were notified via a phone message that they are going to be in a tournament and the playoffs and that we needed to bring a check made payable to the coach by next week's game.

And we are involved. Infact, I have been to many meetings. And in year's past we've worked the concession stands. And we coach. And oh yes, our business has been a sponsor as well. Now I am curious as to where our money went if parents are having to fork out what they have to for their child to play ball.
Shirts n Hats

Red Bud, IL

#10 May 17, 2013
are all ordered through Gregson Adverting... so at least you know why Dave has been involved all these years... its so his company can profit from selling stuff to RBAA!!!!

Put the stuff out for bids! You'd be amazed how much cheaper other places are!
sscm

Belleville, IL

#11 May 17, 2013
Parent wrote:
I don't expect anyone else to foot my kids bills either, however, I also know that at registration we aren't given anything to know that there would be fee after fee after fee. And no, our coaches have not consulted the parents regarding tournament entries. We were notified via a phone message that they are going to be in a tournament and the playoffs and that we needed to bring a check made payable to the coach by next week's game.
And we are involved. Infact, I have been to many meetings. And in year's past we've worked the concession stands. And we coach. And oh yes, our business has been a sponsor as well. Now I am curious as to where our money went if parents are having to fork out what they have to for their child to play ball.
Holy Moses. So you've been involved from every angle at one point in time. Coach. Sponsor. Worked the stands. Parent. Attended meetings.

And you STILL don't know what's going on? Either you're full of it, or dumb. It's difficult to tell which at this point. I'm leaning towards the later since you possibly think that could be someone from RBAA.
Parent

Saint Louis, MO

#12 May 17, 2013
Well sscm here's the situation. In years past we coached and went to meetings when our daughter played. And we have sponsored a team in years past for both the kids league and for the Tuesday Night Mens League. And yes, we worked in the stands.

And now we are here six years later and I am very surprised the differences of then and now.

All the question was that I originally asked was what exactly does the sponsor $ go for and I have been told to take my kid to select league and my intelligence is being questioned. If they are getting $40/kid and we have 14 kids on the team, there is $560. Sponsorship used to be $250 so we are now at $810. The jerseys shouldn't be more than $20/kid so we are back at $530. Umps per game shouldn't cost more than $20 each (2 umps x $20 x 8 home games=$320) So we should have $210 left. And thinking we may give $50 for the league to provide us baseballs....because that is about all we have given to us to use (we don't play late so we shouldn't be footing any light bills) that leaves us with $160/team. And I would hope that money would be used for tourney fees.

Lucky for my kids, we are able to pay the extra fees. But the sad fact is there are some people who don't have it and the fact of the matter is they don't know about all the extras when they sign up.
Team Sponsor

United States

#13 May 17, 2013
Parent wrote:
What are the team sponsors exactly for? I paid the registration fee, bought every piece of the uniform except a shirt, we have to provide our own helmets & bats and now we are being asked to pay tourney fees.
As a team sponsor we donated $200 to help offset the costs for children to play.
eli

Saint Louis, MO

#14 May 17, 2013
The money goes to me so I can buy another jeep. Thanks
sscm

Belleville, IL

#15 May 17, 2013
Parent wrote:
Well sscm here's the situation. In years past we coached and went to meetings when our daughter played. And we have sponsored a team in years past for both the kids league and for the Tuesday Night Mens League. And yes, we worked in the stands.
And now we are here six years later and I am very surprised the differences of then and now.
All the question was that I originally asked was what exactly does the sponsor $ go for and I have been told to take my kid to select league and my intelligence is being questioned. If they are getting $40/kid and we have 14 kids on the team, there is $560. Sponsorship used to be $250 so we are now at $810. The jerseys shouldn't be more than $20/kid so we are back at $530. Umps per game shouldn't cost more than $20 each (2 umps x $20 x 8 home games=$320) So we should have $210 left. And thinking we may give $50 for the league to provide us baseballs....because that is about all we have given to us to use (we don't play late so we shouldn't be footing any light bills) that leaves us with $160/team. And I would hope that money would be used for tourney fees.
Lucky for my kids, we are able to pay the extra fees. But the sad fact is there are some people who don't have it and the fact of the matter is they don't know about all the extras when they sign up.
So have you asked either the coach or someone from RBAA? Unless I missed it, I didn't see where you had a discussion to ask someone who might actually know.

Do the diamonds take care of themselves? Do those workers get paid? If you have eight home games,$160 / 8 =$20 / game to get the diamonds ready. I've never seen any goats at the complex, so I'm assuming someone cuts the grass. And I don't think they've got solar powered lawn mowers, so I'm assuming someone buys gas.

Next time you're at a RBAA meeting, maybe ask a question rather that stir the pot on Topix? Nah, that would be too easy.
Parent

Saint Louis, MO

#16 May 17, 2013
Well, if we played at the Sports Complex that would be one thing. But we don't. We play at the Lutheran school field, the Lions Club field, Lincoln Park and the Catholic School. Wait, we do have 1 game at the RBAA complex on a Friday night. Don't even try to tell me they work the fields we are playing on....because they don't. And they don't maintain them either.

There are 15 Khoury League Teams. There are also mens and coed leagues. I would believe just the $25/kid each parent pays not to work the concessions should well cover the cost of mowing for a season.

Goats and solar powered mowers wouldn't be such a bad idea.
mowing

Saint Louis, MO

#17 May 17, 2013
The city mowes the grass u morons
Parent

Kansas City, MO

#18 May 17, 2013
Well there you go. Mowing costs taken care of!
Grow up

Waterloo, IL

#19 May 20, 2013
Sad to see so many sarcastic comments on here. Maybe it's time to rid of the khoury league since the parents have so many issues with it. I always felt it was a good thing for the kids during the summer. I was willing to pay whatever because it was something good for my child to do and everything was organized well and I didn't have to spend MY time on any of it. Everything from registration to equipment was handled by someone else. Someone else that took their time to organize things for my child! I suggest for the parents complaining .... shut up & grow up before Red Bud loses something that our kids love.
previously involved

Smithton, IL

#20 May 20, 2013
RBAA is a volunteer, not for profit organization.
however, it is a business with business expenses-insurances, liquor license, inventory expenses, fuel, equipment payments, upkeep...

tens of thousands of dollars per year are spent on annual initial set up, setting diamonds nightly, working to keep facility in good condition.

tens of thousands of dollars are spent on food and beverage inventories. these items are sold for a good margin, however the profits are hurt significantly due to shrinkage of all types.

the need for volunteer labor is tremendous. without your help the RBAA loses money at year end.

please volunteer. bashing individuals and an organization is NOT helping.

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