Church Bus Driver Accused of Fondling...

Church Bus Driver Accused of Fondling 14-Year-Old

There are 410 comments on the Fox 8 WGHP story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Church Bus Driver Accused of Fondling 14-Year-Old. In it, Fox 8 WGHP reports that:

A man who dries a church bus is accused of fondling a 14-year-old girl earlier this month.

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Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#345 Aug 11, 2010
OK, here is forum thread on "Man Who Drives Church Bus Accused of Fondling Teen" Number one:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/reidsville-nc...

And here is Forum thread on "Man Who Drives Church Bus Accused of Fondling Teen" Number Two:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/reidsville-nc...

And this is forum thread on "Man Who Drives Church Bus Accused of Fondling Teen" Number Three:
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/myfox8
ex member

Greensboro, NC

#348 Aug 12, 2010
Praise God wrote:
<quoted text> I don't know what $$$$$$$$ you are talking about it has NEVER HID anything! You just might the snake in the grass you come here to bash the church!!? Snakes are hide and strike seems to me that is what you are doing! All children that are taught have TWO ADULTS PRESENT!! His wife helps also!! shows where you have been NOT THERE!
mrt your right I wonder how that brass bed is doing?????????
ex member

Greensboro, NC

#349 Aug 12, 2010
Praise God wrote:
<quoted text> Yes we do! These people are twisting and lying because they are mad for some reason they were too coward to speak out in the church or go to the pastor who is willing to talk to anyone at anytime about anything. This is one of the most respected pastors in town! You will be hard pressed to find anyone to say otherwise accept the hide behind the computer people here that smile to his face. This slander of the church is very un-christian. so maybe they went to a church that it is ok to talk that way!?:O
what a joke he is not well liked at all his wife was in walmart and would not even say hello to another pastor. She is mean!!!!!!!! What a joke you people are.cats out of the bag!!!
ex member

Greensboro, NC

#350 Aug 12, 2010
PTK wrote:
I dont think he did this discusting thing. Philip Madison loves his family and is a devoted christian.We pray for him and his family.
well what you think now ???
exposed

Mount Airy, NC

#351 Aug 12, 2010
eri trying to EXPLAIN herself:
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I am not Grace Jovian. In fact, there is no Grace Jovian. The youthful Grace at GIBC is a fictional character, and the more mature Grace with two children and a husband is also a fictional character. They're all fiction: Cinn, Lilly, Chad, Preacher Mack, Rush Pole. Preacher Mack remains a fictional character.

The use of fiction to present a framework for contemplation of the sacred is the absolute oldest use of fiction. The earliest use of literary (written) fiction is to illuminate truths. The modern Christian use of fiction to tell an escapist tale of unrealistic, unlikely romantic love in far off places between pioneer women and men, or between Scottish lasses on the moor and their brave and gallant lads, is a rather new use of fiction. While I recognize (and would even insist upon) the necessity of a percentage of modern fiction being mere escapist, this level of fiction as the most typical fiction from a culture.

I was surprised at several turns with audience response to the story, especially the constant request for "how true is this"? It's completely true as far as I can determine, but it's completely a work of fiction. No, there is no Grace Jovian. No, there is no Preacher Mack.
There is a premise in Christian fiction that if you pin the five step plan into a story, you instantly make the fiction worth reading or at least more Christian.
But Secret Radio is designed for those who already know the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And the Bible teaches that salvation is meant to come by the forthright preaching of the Word of God, through fiction. In the New Testament, nobody after Christ ever uses so much as a parable to teach anybody the Word of God. And the Lord Jesus Himself used parables only to illustrate what He was directly teaching from the Scripture. Parables highlighted Truth in His sermons but He was remarked for His knowledge of the Scripture, not for His parables.
Fiction can only demonstrate; it cannot validate or prove. But fiction can contribute to the direct witness of Scripture by highlighting truths and showing the glory of what is right and the horror of sin.

My second surprise was that people who realized the story was not a piece of fluff became offended by it. Yet addressing hard issues is precisely the work that fiction does best. To be effective, fiction must do its work without gratuitousness. But fiction has a work to do and is well suited for that task.
My third surprise was the whole "oral sex" reaction First, I will record right here that not one person who accused me or blamed me online ever approached me privately, though I have always had an e-mail posted on the SECRET RADIO blog have a "wolfpack" or "dogpile" mentality. So I was not really surprised that eventually a dogpile formed on some issue somewhere in SECRET RADIO. I knew it was just a matter of time, but I was surprised at the trigger that started the reaction.
PTK dumb

Mount Airy, NC

#352 Aug 12, 2010
PTK wrote:
I dont think he did this discusting thing. Philip Madison loves his family and is a devoted christian.We pray for him and his family.
He ammitted he done it So is h still a devoted Christian?

Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#353 Aug 12, 2010
He's a child molester who got caught, and he's using tears and the gullibility of his apostate church to patch his torn cover-up. The hellish church has sided with him and has not taken the part of his victim. Devils.
ex member

Greensboro, NC

#354 Aug 12, 2010
PTK wrote:
I dont think he did this discusting thing. Philip Madison loves his family and is a devoted christian.We pray for him and his family.
he fooled you sucker
ex member

Greensboro, NC

#355 Aug 12, 2010
friend wrote:
I know this man and his family and I have and still do trust him. God says let him that has no sin cast the first stone! In Gods eyes a sin is a sin. This is very bad and disheartening and I am still in shock, but the fact is that things happen for unknown reasons. We as christians are told by God to forgive because we have been forgiven. I pray for his wife and 2 boys and the girl that is involved. We don't know all the facts and he has stepped down and no longer involved with children. He doesn't even speak get in the church until the last minute now and looks very repentive. His wife still stands by him and they need your prayers! The last thing we need is to turn him away from God , he now more than ever needs support, forgiveness,help and GOD! As a friend I ask you to pray for the whole ordeal. Philip I'm praying for you brother!
hang him!! he is a pervert and you were fooled .

Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#356 Aug 13, 2010
Just amazing that fundies get so uptight over girls in slacks or which version of the Bible you read, but they give child molesters a pass. There is no "unknown reason" for this sin. James writes that no man is tempted of God; rather a man is tempted when he is drawn away by his own lusts. So that's why he sinned. He lusted. And he lusted because he's lustful after 14 year old girls.

This man was already turned away from God when he preyed upon a child. Then his wife enabled him; the church has excused him, and now he is getting positioned to do it again, just as soon as this episode is suitably covered up.
observer

Clayton, NC

#357 Aug 13, 2010
Praise God wrote:
<quoted text> Yes we do! These people are twisting and lying because they are mad for some reason they were too coward to speak out in the church or go to the pastor who is willing to talk to anyone at anytime about anything. This is one of the most respected pastors in town! You will be hard pressed to find anyone to say otherwise accept the hide behind the computer people here that smile to his face. This slander of the church is very un-christian. so maybe they went to a church that it is ok to talk that way!?:O if this is one of the most resrected pastors in town, that doesn't say much for your town. if i was from your town i would be ashamed to have your cult & your child molestation condoning & enabling cult leader associated w/ my town. i would imagine that there are pastors in your town that deserve respect & receive it as they teach the way of the Lord. i guess if your cult leader is one of the most respected then your cult is one of the biggest denominations. respect from brainwashed sheeple isn't worth a rat's arse.

Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#358 Aug 14, 2010
The Hyles-Anderson/FBCH Roll Call of Shame, Part One:

How is it that a church and Bible college that are supposed to be "on fire for God" have produced so many child molesters, bullies, and perverts? The proof is in the outcomes. Has any school, ever, in the history of the US, ever produced so many child molesters? And this place is supposed to be a Bible college!

Dave Hyles, son of Jack Hyles, who created the Mecca of Fundamentalism at First Baptist of Hammond IN, where his son in law Jack Schaap now reigns. Dave Hyles was expelled from Miller Road Baptist Church for committing adultery with over a dozen women, and who was charged with abusing the child and later was declared the prime suspect in Brent’s suspicious death, continued to preach for “Hyles Man” Bob Gray of Texas, then became a member of church staff at Pinellas Park Baptist Church in Pinellas Park Florida, pastored by Everett Farris. He was later expelled from there for adultery with several different women, and his church secretary became a prostitute. He then became a member at Berean Baptist Church in Orange Park Florida, pastored by Tom Neal and was then expelled for adultery, and then he became a regular attender at First Baptist of Jacksonville, Florida, pastored by Jerry Vines.

Russell Hirner convicted of Child molestation. He was the Christian School principal in Bob Gray’s high school, a “Hyles church” school.

Jim Vineyard, charged by a pastor with describing lewd sexual acts to a young lady (sexual harassment; not a crime because Vineyard “counseled” in private, although the Scripture clearly directs that private counseling is to be from older women to younger women). Vineyard has yet to deny the charge, but he did call the preacher who confronted him “buzzard puke”.

Andy Beith, Hyles-Anderson gradyate and former meber of FBCH, then principal of Liberty Baptist Academy in NW Indiana – sex with an 11 year old girl. Sentenced to 30 years, parole in 11. Previous arrest for contributing to delinquency of a minor when caught partially dressed with a 15 year old girl.(Las Vegas Journal Review May 9, 2001. By J.M. KALIL and RYAN OLIVER. Contributions from Associated Press).

Beith’s father, William Beith, also a graduate of Hyles-Anderson and a former member of Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond, was arrested for soliciting an undercover officer in a local park. William Beith was also arrested on suspicion of exposing himself in public.(Las Vegas Journal Review May 9, 2001. By J.M. KALIL and RYAN OLIVER. Contributions from Associated Press).

Kerry Martin, a Hyles-Anderson College former student, former member at Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond; expelled from Jim Vineyard’s Oklahoma Bible College his senior year, never prevented or confronted for taking a pulpit. Preacher at Temecula Valley Baptist Church, was sentenced to nearly 206 years for molesting a teen-ager, a prolonged affair that lasted 20 months. Three others stepped forward to declare that they also had been molested by the preacher.He was prosecuted in Riverside County, CA by Assistant District Attorney Deena Bennett and sentenced by Judge Russell F Schooling.(Reported in Press-Enterprise, RIVERSIDE CA, Joe Vargo, Reporter)

Calvin Stone, a Hyles-Anderson College short timer and former church member sent to prison for molesting a little girl.

Russell K Overla,a Hyles-Anderson College graduate and former member at Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond. He was the pastor of Lakeside Baptist Church in Cedar Lake, IN. Overla pleaded guilty to molesting an 8 year old girl.

Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#359 Aug 14, 2010
The Hyles-Anderson/FBCH Roll Call of Shame, Part Two:

Chester Mulligan,charged with two counts of sexual misconduct with a minor for molesting a 14 year old girl.“Authorities allege that Chester Mulligan, 58, now of Fort Sill, Okla., first had sexual intercourse with the girl, then 14, in July 1997. They say the abuse continued until June 2001.”(Indianapolis Star.“Former East Chicago pastor faces sex charges.” CROWN POINT (IN). Associated Press. December 30, 2003). Mulligan was considered A “Hyles Man”, at one time running his ministry in East Chicago very much in the style of Jack Hyles. As of 2004, Mulligan was pastor of Miami’s Grace Baptist Church and Academy in Florida. An unverified source says he has denied the charges and alleges that his accuser was promiscuous. Like Shifflett and the others on this list, he remains “KJB”.

Pastor Joe Combs,(found guilty, also defended by officials from Hyles-Anderson College) Former Hyles-Anderson Faculty member. Raping and molesting his adopted daughter, the woman formerly known as Esther Combs. Her story was covered in detail by ABC’s Prime Time Live on October 18, 2000. Click here to read the transcript. A former member at Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond. Joe Combs had been a member of Hyles’ church and a Bible teacher on faculty at Hyles-Anderson College, though at the time of his arrest he was pastoring in Bristol, TN.

Evangeline Combs (assault, not sexual). Wife of Joe Combs, participant in cruel and abusive behavior against her adopted daughter. Former member of Jack Hyles’ church.

Associate Pastor Timothy Lee Leonard,(charged but acquitted because child-witnesses unable to testify; one child in the church who alleged sexual abuse from Leonard had venereal disease, however). A Hyles-Anderson College graduate and former member at Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond.(Preying from the Pulpit

Deacon Mark Foeller,(indicted but acquitted because witnesses refused to testify) sexual abuse of a child. A Hyles-Anderson College graduate and former member at Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond.(Preying from the Pulpit

Deacon A.V. Ballenger,(found guilty of molesting a 7-year old girl; treated as a hero by Jack Hyles and given a standing ovation at First Baptist of Hammond) Deacon at Jack Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond.(Preying from the Pulpit

Jeffrey Jerrell, A Hyles-Anderson College graduate and former member at Hyles’ church, First Baptist of Hammond. He was youth pastor at Calvary Park Baptist Church’s (Petersburg, VA), pleaded guilty to having sex with eleven young girls from his congregation.(Preying from the Pulpit

Craig A Sisson, former pastor of Bethel Baptist Church of Otto (Arnold) Missouri, and a Hyles-Anderson graduate was convicted of a single count of first degree child molestation for his actions against an 11 year old girl, the daughter of church members. He was given a one year suspended sentence, five years probation, and had his ministerial certificate revoked. He is not certified to carry out pastoral duties in the state of Missouri (KSDK News Channel 5, St Louis Missouri, and Poynter online)

Administrator Joseph R. Strang, Assistant to the pastor (well, now FORMER Assistant to the Pastor) at Lighthouse Baptist Church, Gloucester NJ. Charged and pleaded guilty to “fondling a 12-year-old male on various dates between September 2001 and September 2002…and…digitally penetrating a 14-year-old female in April or May of 2002. The pleas were entered on Monday, Feb. 3, 2003, in front of Superior Court Judge John T. McNeill III. The attacks against the boy occurred at a residence in Camden. The attack against the girl, who was a church member, occurred at the church.” though it is not known if Strang is a graduate from Hyles-Anderson, Lighthouse Baptist Church endorses Jack Hyles as a “Baptist Hero”.2003 Media Releases: CAMDEN COUNTY PROSECUTOR’S OFFICE. VINCENT P. SARUBBI, CAMDEN COUNTY PROSECUTOR. MEDIA INFORMATION. February 4, 2003

Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#360 Aug 14, 2010
The Hyles-Anderson/FBCH Roll Call of Shame, Part Three:

Charles Shifflett, an honorary doctorate of Hyles-Anderson and a self-professed Hyles man, turned his church’s school into a gulag where the boys labored at cutting down trees, sawing lumber, selling wood and other hard labor tasks, allegedly to earn money for the school. Shifflett was charged with reckless endangerment for playing games with the lives of the boys. He was also charged with indecency based on accounts of molesting at least one girl and sodomizing boys. Shifflett left his church and started a new one a couple miles away, built on the model of a Hyles church, where his “loyal” church members insist that whether he is guilty or innocent, they will follow him. Shifflett pled guilty to the seven felony counts against him. Six were reduced to misdemeanors. He is free. Currently, Shifflett faces new counts of fraud and embezzlement. His trial is set for July 2008.

Jason Burrick, a graduate of Hyles-Anderson College, has not committed a crime, not legally. He has the dubious distinction of ruthlessly taking over Allen Baptist Church in Hillsdale Michigan by promising to adhere to the church constitution, and then abrogating it and chasing out the elderly members who opposed him. He conducted an excommunication of 71 year old member Karolyn Caskey while she was in Florida. Upon her return, when she quietly refused to leave the church, he had her arrested and removed in handcuffs. He repeated this the following week when she returned. The local Prosecutor warned him not to do it again and gave Caskey leeway to attend the church as long as she raised no disturbance. Burrick then used his preaching to try to goad an objection from her and actually jumped up and down on the pews. All to no avail.[1],[2],[3]

Jeremiah Owens, son of former Hyles-Anderson VP Pastor Jeff Owens, and a former student at Hyles-Anderson, has pled guilty to two counts of sexual assault. Though Jeremiah’s criminal history included previous counts of burglary in Indiana, for which he was on probation and previous charges of a sexual assault in Kentucky which were dropped when the alleged under-age victim would not testify, Jeremiah Owens entered his father’s church, Shenandoah Baptist Bible Church without the necessity of church discipline being applied to him. He was free to do as he liked and he found his victims, ages 13 and 15, at the church. Now having pled guilty, he continues to be excused from church discipline. Members insist he is actually innocent, and the victims are evil.

Chris Settlemoir – I’ve lost count of all the charges. He’s a graduate of Hyles-Anderson. He stepped into the pastorate at Antioch Baptist Church in Michigan. He also became principal of the Christian school. Both at the ripe old age of 26. At 27, he was behind bars on charges of molesting and attempting to molest adolescent boys.
ptk

Greensboro, NC

#361 Aug 14, 2010
I think a person is inocent until proven guilty by someone with the authority like a judge,are you a judge? were you at court on the tenth in the jury stand..?Dont get me wrong if the judge finds him guilty then hang him..
ex member

Greensboro, NC

#362 Aug 14, 2010
ptk wrote:
I think a person is inocent until proven guilty by someone with the authority like a judge,are you a judge? were you at court on the tenth in the jury stand..?Dont get me wrong if the judge finds him guilty then hang him..
he already admit to it to the pastor,the girls aunt, to the church people. now hang him
ptk

Greensboro, NC

#363 Aug 15, 2010
where do you get youre infomation from.? hopefuly not from this gossip page.I find some of these remarks on this blog childish.Some people intend on streching things beyond there means.There again let the court deside on the verdict.

Since: Aug 10

Durham, NC

#364 Aug 15, 2010
ptk wrote:
I think a person is inocent until proven guilty by someone with the authority like a judge,are you a judge? were you at court on the tenth in the jury stand..?Dont get me wrong if the judge finds him guilty then hang him..
You're talking about the legal system. I'm talking abotu the church. He needs to be biblically disciplined, not lifted up as a hero of pain and suffering. He's admitted tot he church that he did it. The subsequent claims that his hand slipped should prove that his repentance is false, and he needs to be put out of the church.
observer

Clayton, NC

#365 Aug 15, 2010
ptk wrote:
where do you get youre infomation from.? hopefuly not from this gossip page.I find some of these remarks on this blog childish.Some people intend on streching things beyond there means.There again let the court deside on the verdict.
from the people that winessed his confession. you already know what will come out in court as you have been working on this young girl's mind for weeks now & have weeks more to work on it you worthless piece of feces, who will rot for eternity in hades.
exposed

Mount Airy, NC

#367 Aug 16, 2010
observer wrote:
<quoted text>from the people that winessed his confession. you already know what will come out in court as you have been working on this young girl's mind for weeks now & have weeks more to work on it you worthless piece of feces, who will rot for eternity in hades.
When you get there you can say HELLO!

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