Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,146

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Neil Andblowme

Hoboken, NJ

#180169 Feb 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Said no such thing.
I said married couples without children are like barren apple trees.
Gay couples are like desolate walnut trees hanging apples on their branches demanding to be apple trees.
I've seen dominoes fall. States are not falling like dominoes.
What grade are you in???
Smirk.
Yeah.... we've all seen trees hang apples on themselves.

You are a goofball.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#180171 Feb 18, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
<quoted text>
Did they specifically study gay step parents??????????
First you demand that gay couples are the same as heterosexual couples, now you want to separate them???

Can you make up your mind Nelly???

Smirk.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#180172 Feb 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Every study sets parameters on participants, time, topics of study to name a few. Perhaps you might have more to learn about research methods???
Regnerus established parameters for SEVEN family types. Gays are the only ones whining. Even Slate magazine commented on the illegitimate ad homoan attacks. Their advice? Produce legitimate studies that counter Regnerus.
However, as of now, the Regnerus study is the largest, latest most scientific study to date on family types. Lesbian couples ranked last, after single parents...
Oh, and natural parents ranked first. Again.
Smile.
Is there really a reason to think otherwise? What adult, who was raised by his/her own married biological parents in a stable home, looks back and thinks, "Gee, I wish Mom and divorced and I was raised by....."?

Are there supporters of SSM on this thread who think this way?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#180173 Feb 18, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
<quoted text>There are scientific standards, ya know? Each scientist doesn't get to make up his own rules to suit himself. Variables MUST be accounted for, or you have nothing. You really have no idea, do ya? Didn't you take any social sciences in college?
Comparing apples to oranges is meaningless. You can't draw conclusions about gay couples if you didn't study any. You can't compare long term hetero couples to short term gay couples with any validity. Do you understand? One would have no way of knowing if it was a difference in time or a difference in sexual orientation that caused the results.
We were talking about parameters. Now you are shifting to standards because you were proved ignorant about parameters???

Guess what, you are ignorant about standards too?

Here is a study of gay family study standards, it is not good...

"In fact, an important article published in tandem with the Regnerus study (by Loren Marks, Louisiana State University) analyzes the 59 previous studies cited in a 2005 policy brief on homosexual parents by the American Psychological Association (APA).[2] Marks debunks the APA's claim that "[n]ot a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents." Marks also points out that only four of the 59 studies cited by the APA even met the APA's own standards by "provid[ing] evidence of statistical power." As Marks so carefully documents, "[N]ot one of the 59 studies referenced in the 2005 APA Brief compares a large, random, representative sample of lesbian or gay parents and their children with a large, random, representative sample of married parents and their children."

Perhaps you want to shift subjects again...

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#180174 Feb 18, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. Not scientific. No validity. Data did not support conclusions.
Denial Nelly, simply denial.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#180175 Feb 18, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah.... we've all seen trees hang apples on themselves.
You are a goofball.
Didn't you say you saw states fall like dominoes???

Snicker smile.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180179 Feb 18, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
That, dumb-ass, is because they aren't the same. Remember when they separated boys and girls in school ? Guess why ?
Did they separate you from people who weren't freakish looking? Or were you normal looking as a child?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180180 Feb 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>You think I don't know US servicewomen have died in Iraq and Afghanistan? The article says nothing about cause of death, sometimes illness, accident and negligence kill more people than hostile action.
More than 1522 US servicemembers have been killed in Afghanistan under Obama's leadership since 2009, less than a third that number were killed under Bush's leadership during the first eight years of the war.
Putting women in combat units means training injuries and deaths, even if they never get to combat.
Girl cooties?
Brian_G wrote:
Then, there's the effect on male troops fighting and training alongside...
Obama is a disaster as a military leader.
Do you con dumbs get bonus points for mentioning Obama's name, and the more off topic the mention, the more points you get?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180181 Feb 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Living in close confinement with members of your own sex is stressful enough, do you really want this shame on our bravest volunteers?
Do you have something against the people who defend our freedom?
You hate women, we get that.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180182 Feb 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
You hate women, we get that.
You hate everyone, we get that.
Wooden

Covina, CA

#180183 Feb 18, 2013
The panel is still out

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#180184 Feb 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You hate women, we get that.
I am amazed that you can post stupid hate comments with nothing of beneficial substance ever.

How do you do that so perfectly???

Ho, Ho, Ho.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180185 Feb 18, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>LOL I gave the voters 4 options, what can I say but your asshattedness is well known.
Aw shuddup you dopeyass cyberstalking creep!

YUK!YUK!YUK! Jizzybird. What a jackass!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180189 Feb 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The verdict has been in for a long time. The Regnerus study only confirmed it. Nature established the ideal ions ago.
Why does a self described monster mutation bring up nature?
LOL!
KiMare wrote:
A father, mother and their biological children. Default situations dramatically increase the negatives for everyone.
Really?
KiMare wrote:
And gay couples with children rank last. After single parents.
Hardly a reason to smile...
Smirk.
Do you think you should have been aborted?
Why won't you answer the question?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180190 Feb 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
No it doesn't.
You have one mother. That is simply a scientific fact.
Children have one father and one mother. That's it.
What if you were the parent, you monster mutation?
LOL!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180191 Feb 18, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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What legitimate practical logical comparisons could be made? What family structure can be compared to children born to, and raised by, their own biological parents in a low conflict stable marital home? A SSC, male or female, raising a child from birth, are still two men
or two women.(snip)
Can't slip anything past you.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180192 Feb 18, 2013
Robsan5 wrote:
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You are a pathetic excuse for, one of our own. You're what most people would actually call a fagg@t. Get a grip, idiot
Robert
Sounds like you want to get a grip on Jazybird, IYKWIM.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#180193 Feb 18, 2013
Amazing, there you go again!

Perfect stupid hate!

Ho, Ho, Ho.

Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#180194 Feb 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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....
Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship. Hardly a cause for government interest, let alone selective discrimination.
Smile.
Allowing gay couples to marry will "remove the element of procreation" from marriage?

How? In what way?

No state in the country bans people who cannot procreate at all, or couples who cannot procreate together, from legally marrying.

Remember, logic is your friend.

Can you prove that allowing gay folks to marry will stop straight people (or gay people) from procreating or raising children?

If not, then you will have a hard time showing how a gay couple marrying "removes procreation" from marriage.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180195 Feb 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
This is one of many;
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
A apple tree bearing fruit.
A apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.
The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too is simply silly.
You are so dumb, you can't make up a decent analogy.
You are trying to make an analogy to the definition of marriage. But you fail because unlike the ability to bear apples is pretty much the definition of an apple tree, the ability to reproduce isn't part of the definition of marriage. LOL!
KiMare wrote:
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.
You don't know what the word "oxymoron" means! Damn, this is funny.
KiMare wrote:
Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship. Hardly a cause for government interest, let alone selective discrimination.
Smile.
Stupid, allowing gay marriage won't remove the element of procreation, people will still procreate. Once and a while there will be a monster mutation. Do you think those mutations should be aborted?

LOL!

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