Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,794

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#177751 Jan 30, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not just prisons, forced marriages in all institutions. The question of consent is at best, problematic, for prisoners. Same sex marriage would harm everyone, institutionalized or free.
If you have to dig that deep into a barrel of crap to come up with an arguemnt, it means you are out of arguments.

The argument you are useing could be used to say hetrosexual marrages should be illegal ( poorly of course, just as it is a poor argumnet as you are using it )
Big D

Modesto, CA

#177752 Jan 30, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>oh sorry, that response was meant for bigot dope, im might need a rest, im sounding as stupid as andy.
As long as he thinks Poly marriage is on topic... then he really has no case to say religion isnít a proper discussion topic here.

Religion has more do to with the opposition to same sex marriage than any other single factor.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177753 Jan 30, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>oh sorry, that response was meant for bigot dope, im might need a rest, im sounding as stupid as andy.
No prob. I could tell it was for the Bigot Dummy. So could he.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177754 Jan 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
As long as he thinks Poly marriage is on topic... then he really has no case to say religion isnít a proper discussion topic here.
Religion has more do to with the opposition to same sex marriage than any other single factor.
Sure Big D, religion is on topic but marriage isn't. You keep trying to make us believe that.

But we'll be discussing the topic, MARRIAGE EQUALITY. Despite your "off topic!" straw man.

The only reason you say poly MARRIAGE is off topic is to avoid revealing your hypocrisy.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#177755 Jan 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure Big D, religion is on topic but marriage isn't. You keep trying to make us believe that.
But we'll be discussing the topic, MARRIAGE EQUALITY. Despite your "off topic!" straw man.
The only reason you say poly MARRIAGE is off topic is to avoid revealing your hypocrisy.
No I am saying you can talk about Poly all you want, and I can talk about religion all I want.

No problem :)

and no one should be saying anything about "off-topic" to anyone else. If you agree to stop using that straw man argument again about Off-Topic all will be good, if you continue to use that straw man argument I will continue to laugh and throw it in your face as I please.
Rush

Columbus, NE

#177756 Jan 30, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>
I was talking about your wife, not your mother stupid!
Your the one who said mom, moron. I have no idea what is going on in that tiny little brain of yours, so I respond to what you post.
Riggers

Monrovia, CA

#177757 Jan 30, 2013
looks like the scum-bags have come up with another scheme to win?

Big laugh, they are hated enough already.

GOP Plan to 'Rig' Electoral Votes Loses Key Support.

The proposed system would make it easier for Republican presidential candidates to win.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#177759 Jan 30, 2013
Bruno wrote:
I like to lick everything meet me at the mall
Only those from Norwalk do that you stupid homo ... lol
Mocker

Novato, CA

#177760 Jan 30, 2013
Huh. It's like being a spectator at the Special Olympics.

Gay marriage is fine. It has nothing to do with religion. I'm not Catholic ergo, I couldn't get married (heterosexual) in a Catholic church. Nobody's forcing any religion to change its values.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177761 Jan 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No I am saying you can talk about Poly all you want, and I can talk about religion all I want.
No problem :)
and no one should be saying anything about "off-topic" to anyone else. If you agree to stop using that straw man argument again about Off-Topic all will be good, if you continue to use that straw man argument I will continue to laugh and throw it in your face as I please.
I don't care when you go off topic dumbass, the only reason I ever mention it to you is when you rag on me calling me "off topic" because you need to avoid revealing your hypocrisy.

Why not just come out and say you are against equality for poly? Why be a coward and pull the off topic card? Man up jackass.
Riggers

Monrovia, CA

#177762 Jan 30, 2013
The poor GOP, Republican and Tea Party worm is going to be eaten up.
Mocker

Novato, CA

#177763 Jan 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't care when you go off topic dumbass, the only reason I ever mention it to you is when you rag on me calling me "off topic" because you need to avoid revealing your hypocrisy.
Why not just come out and say you are against equality for poly? Why be a coward and pull the off topic card? Man up jackass.
Maybe God cameth unto him and said "Son, time to keep your ignorant, drooling piehole shut"?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#177765 Jan 30, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not just prisons, forced marriages in all institutions. The question of consent is at best, problematic, for prisoners. Same sex marriage would harm everyone, institutionalized or free.
All institutions? Universtities? Mental institutions? Honestly Brian, why do you expect anyone to take you seriously and not call you an idiot when you come up with this garbage? There really is no way to field abject stupidity other than calling it what it is. Where do you live that makes you think marriage will be forced upon anyone and what basis, besides irrational hysteria, do you have for making such comments?

You remind me of a classmate of mine from college that would just blurt out any load of bollox that popped into his head rather than remaining silent when the conversation was over his head (which was most of the time).
ColdFeet

Monrovia, CA

#177767 Jan 30, 2013
Whatever happened to the stupid "third installment" of Steve Tobia's energetic defense of Nick Conway (sgvCOG) in "THE" Magazine?

He was gonna name names and set the record sraight, I might venture is the real reason?

Politics is a strange "bed fellow" and most politicans can't stand being cold and being kicked out of bed either.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177769 Jan 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Don't you agree the GAY MARRIAGE RIGHTS logically lead to poly MARRIAGE RIGHTS?
Hell no. It's a rationalization, not logical reasoning.
There are too many steps in between to claim it logically follows.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#177770 Jan 30, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Like you just did?
Do you mean like just now, when I showed Chongo to be a liar, when I proved that her side is just as, if not more, dangerous than the heterosexuals that she reviles, as per the case in point ? Re: a heterosexual woman being murdered by a transgender man, who is obviously mixed up, as can be told by the mere fact that he dresses in drag, when he is a man ? Oh, I thought that was what you meant....No, I didn't do any lying, I don't need to. Go back to "lubs me some Betty White", it was more your speed.....
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#177771 Jan 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
And no one gay or straight, man or woman, wants to marry Rose_NoHo!
Did you notice she posts about some new imaginary boyfriend? Wonder what happened to her old imaginary boyfriend. Probably turned out to be an imaginary jerk.
I imagine that the batteries ran out, and it has to wait until the beginning of the month, for some new battery money...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#177772 Jan 30, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>
LMFAO@you
That's a really well thought out response.
To be perfectly frank, it was a simple response. If it seems well thought out, to you, then the world must seem very complicated, to you...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177773 Jan 30, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Hell no. It's a rationalization, not logical reasoning.
There are too many steps in between to claim it logically follows.
It is utterly logical for polygamy rights to follow gay rights.

If traditional marriage is defined as the union of two people of opposite gender, and if the gender requirement is nothing but prejudice, exclusion and an arbitrary denial of one's autonomous choices, then the number requirement (two and only two), is a similarly arbitrary, discriminatory and indefensible denial of individual choice.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#177774 Jan 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I do agree that the decline in religion in America will probably make this a non-issue, there are no groups bringing this up an issue, just one idiot on an internet forum.
I have not stated an opinion other than I donít really careÖ neither do most people, it just is not an issue.
Please stay on topic
To most people, SSM isn't an issue, either. But there is a lot of propaganda claiming that we support it. SSM is an issue being forced into the world by a few spoiled libertines, making it an issue. Polygamy is just as relevant as SSM, because it centers around the issue of governmentally forced definitions of what constitutes a marriage. So is incest. Personally, I support none of the aforementioned types of marriages, but if we must allow the government to force us to accept "equality" in marriages, then we cannot avoid the issue of polygamy or incest. All or nothing. Simple.

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