Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146020 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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I didn't make a spill about Romney, I made a spill about Brian_G and those like him that opposed Romney for months because he's a Morman, but now back him completely because they don't have a choice. How hypocritical they are, and how they lack any semblance of integrity.
Perhaps next time you should read the post I'm responding to before diving in like an idiot.
Well fine, glad you explained what you wrote, next time be more clear. Let's change the topic to choices and why we make them. Are you really driving in right now, then I guess you are an idiot.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#146021 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Well fine, glad you explained what you wrote, next time be more clear. Let's change the topic to choices and why we make them. Are you really driving in right now, then I guess you are an idiot.
Why change the topic just because you are losing?

Even if we did, what state interest is served by denying same sex couples the choice to marry the adult consenting partner of their choosing?

It appears your argument fails to rise to the level of having a rational basis.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146022 Jun 15, 2012
lides wrote:
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Why change the topic just because you are losing?
Even if we did, what state interest is served by denying same sex couples the choice to marry the adult consenting partner of their choosing?
It appears your argument fails to rise to the level of having a rational basis.
Let me explain, I was asking why Johah was changing the topic. And what am I losing? Who is keeping tabs here? Is this a big contest? What can I win? Once the count has been calculated, will this forum be sent to the State with the results? If only you were married, think how happy you would be this morning instead of being so angry and on the edge, marriage makes everyone happy all the time...LOL!!!!(dan taught me that)

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146023 Jun 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Those are the same 'peers' who said every previous now debunked study 'proved' the opposite, right?
Watching you so deserately cling to the Retgerus "Study" is hilarious!!! I bet you think gay men live 20 years less then heterosexual men too!!! LOL!! Or that gay men end up in diapers!!! Ooooh, oooh, I know....do you also think that I was abused as a child??!!!! Oh, oh, I know, let me guess, you also have proof that the gays ran the Nazi party, right hon!!! I'm sure you've got the proof of that on your "favorites" tab!!!!

Tell us the one about how our marriages will lead to polygamy, incest, necrophilia and beastiality!!! That one's always good for an afternoon chuckle. Make sure to present the cause and effect now won't you hon?!! No one on your side has been able to demonstrate that, but I'm sure given the mass amount of studies you keep claiming to have, I'm confident that YOU, KiMare, will be the one to rescue your side's cause from the increasingly out of control mess it has become!!! Save your people KiMare!! Save them with the Retgerus "study"!!!!

After you get done with that, can you come back and demonstrate how the overturning of Don't Ask Don't Tell has weakened our armed forces? That one is one of my favorites. Make sure to bring plenty of specific examples, won't you hon?!! What about choice and reperative theory? Got any golden Paul Cameron nuggets you can throw in? LOL!!!!!

You're really Anita Bryant, aren't you? Come on KiMare, you can level with us!!

As the Retgerus' "study" is rightfully dismissed as the propaganda it is by the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Psychoanalytic Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the Child Welfare League of America, the North American Council on Adoptable Children, and Canadian Psychological Association, please make sure to come back here day in and day out defending it, ok hon??!!! Nothing would make you look more credible!!!! LOL!!!! Make sure to attack the credibility of these organizations rather than countering the actual reasons why Retgerus' "study" has become the joke of the week within the expert community!!! We'll be right here waiting to watch the show!!

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146024 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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What "shred of intelligence"? That a man/woman marriage is different from man/man, woman/woman, man/dog, woman/dog, man/child, woman/child marriage? Sorry, how "homophobic" of me </sarcasm>
1) Did anyone say they weren't different? Nope, no one did. There are all sorts of different marriages. Different religions, different races, different sizes, and yes different genders. One no more valuable that the other.

Your constant need to argue things that have never been presented demonstrates exactly what I was talking about concerning "no shred of intelligence".

2) People that incesantly talk about people having sex with children and dogs should speak to a professional. Your creepy obsession with this, and your need to talk about it constantly is quite disgusting, and not in any way normal.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146025 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Well fine, glad you explained what you wrote, next time be more clear.
I was as clear as I needed to be. I wasn't the one thrusting myself into an existing conversation without seeing what had previously been said. I'm not responsible for your lack of proper research.
RiccardoFire wrote:
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Let's change the topic to choices and why we make them.
Why? Oh, that's right, changing the topic is about all you people can do. Carry on.
RiccardoFire wrote:
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Are you really driving in right now, then I guess you are an idiot.
Where did I say I was driving in? Where did I mention anything about driving?

Idiot much?
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146026 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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I was as clear as I needed to be. I wasn't the one thrusting myself into an existing conversation without seeing what had previously been said. I'm not responsible for your lack of proper research.
<quoted text>
Why? Oh, that's right, changing the topic is about all you people can do. Carry on.
<quoted text>
Where did I say I was driving in? Where did I mention anything about driving?
Idiot much?
I think after this many posts that it all previously has been said.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#146027 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Let me explain, I was asking why Johah was changing the topic. And what am I losing?
Funny, you are the one trying to obfuscate, and the reason you are losing is because you are seemingly incapable of providing a rational basis for your position.
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146028 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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If you know this, then why is it the crux of your "argument"? Now you just made yourself sound even stupider.
Because x+y = z it not the same as x+x =/= z & y+y =/= z.

How is what I'm saying "stupid"? Or do you honestly believe 2 men/2 women are capable of reproducing asexual? If so, then you are believing a lie!
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146029 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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1) Did anyone say they weren't different? Nope, no one did. There are all sorts of different marriages. Different religions, different races, different sizes, and yes different genders. One no more valuable that the other.
Your constant need to argue things that have never been presented demonstrates exactly what I was talking about concerning "no shred of intelligence".
2) People that incesantly talk about people having sex with children and dogs should speak to a professional. Your creepy obsession with this, and your need to talk about it constantly is quite disgusting, and not in any way normal.
"There are all sorts of different marriages. Different religions, different races, different sizes, and yes different genders. One no more valuable that the other."
-Still doesn't change the fact the only real marriage is between a man & a woman...of fferent religions, different races, different sizes.

"Your constant need to argue things that have never been presented demonstrates exactly what I was talking about concerning "no shred of intelligence"."
-U MAD BRO?

Only a person with "no shred of intelligence" would think x+y=z affected the outcome of x+x =/= z & y+y =/= z when x+x & y+y are INCAPABLE of creating a fetus (z).

"People that incesantly talk about people having sex with children and dogs should speak to a professional."
-So discussing the damages of pedophilia & bestiality make me a "mental case"? What's next? Talking about how smoking is bad for you means you somehow developed a mental smoking disorder? Cool Story Bro.

"Your creepy obsession with this, and your need to talk about it constantly is quite disgusting, and not in any way normal."
-LOL Since when is disagreeing or being disgusted by a behavior means being "obsessed" with it? That makes no fucking sense. What's next? Are who disagree with high taxes are secretly "obsessed" with high taxes? Are those who are disgusted by murdering people "obsessed" with murder?

Someone please tell the Gay Totalitarians that the real world isn't Opposite Day
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146030 Jun 15, 2012
lides wrote:
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Funny, you are the one trying to obfuscate, and the reason you are losing is because you are seemingly incapable of providing a rational basis for your position.
what am I losing?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#146031 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
...Bet you wish you could get back that contribution you made to batshyt crazy Bachmann and her closet case husband!!
Is Jon outing a homosexual with his post quoted above? Is it OK to announce the sexual orientation of your political opponents, as Jon's does?

I feel this type of argument harms everyone. I condemn the defamation quoted above!
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#146032 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Still nothing to actually add to the discussion I see. Don't worry Penguin Boy, nobody expects anything else from you.
LMAO .. Typical come back, it is you lacking the a bility to think of somethng new. You are pathetic
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#146033 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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I see. So going on Topix and insulting people is an example of the morality you wish to spread. Got it. No thanks, we're not interested in your version of morality.
Joanah ...what insults ?? I am telling you the truth and the facts, you just can't deal with it. When you go to great lenghts to show a normal moral society that your lifestyle fits in, is a perfect example of showing second class status. LMAO you are a loser.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#146034 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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What an upstanding moral post Penguin Boy.
Thank you Joanah ...
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#146035 Jun 15, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Cupcake, I'll post what I want, when I want and there isn't a f*cking thing you can do about it. If you don't like what I post, don't read, it really is that simple, even for someone as obviously simple minded as you.
Likewise
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#146036 Jun 15, 2012
Insulting Joanah and company would be calling them "heterosexual" all other is merely fact.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146037 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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Because x+y = z it not the same as x+x =/= z & y+y =/= z.
How is what I'm saying "stupid"? Or do you honestly believe 2 men/2 women are capable of reproducing asexual? If so, then you are believing a lie!
No, I believe that there is no requirement that one reproduce, so all your ridiculous x/y/z nonsense just shows you to be stupid.

Come back to us with x/y/z and l/m/n/o/p too, once there is some type of requirement established somewhere that everyone is required to reproduce.
barman

Oak Park, MI

#146038 Jun 15, 2012
I hate to say it but this is bull. Why didn't they just not allow this on the ballot to begin with. What a total waist doing it the way they did.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146039 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
-Still doesn't change the fact the only real marriage is between a man & a woman...of fferent religions, different races, different sizes.
That isn't a fact at all, it is simply your wish. The United States doesn't have a monopoly on the term marriage, and real marriages have been between between gay couples for over a decade now. Not a damn thing you can do to alter that FACT.
thisGuy wrote:
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-U MAD BRO?
Not at all. The only emotional response I have to you is pity.
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a person with "no shred of intelligence" would think x+y=z affected the outcome of x+x =/= z & y+y =/= z when x+x & y+y are INCAPABLE of creating a fetus (z).
No, only a person with no shred of intelligence would think that creation of fetuses have anything at all to do with the subject of this thread.
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
-So discussing the damages of pedophilia & bestiality make me a "mental case"? What's next? Talking about how smoking is bad for you means you somehow developed a mental smoking disorder? Cool Story Bro.
The damages have nothing to do with the fact that normal people don't have these things at the forefront of their mind all day long as you do. That isn't normal.

thisGuy wrote:
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-LOL Since when is disagreeing or being disgusted by a behavior means being "obsessed" with it? That makes no fucking sense.
I would be disgusted by two teethless hillbillies like you and your aunt Weena getting it on, but you'll notice I'm able to go pretty much everyday without bringing it up. Mostly because I don't really give anyone's sex life other than my own that much thought. I also don't spend time thinking about who can produce children and who can't, and other things of no importance.

For you to be disgusted by behavior that you have no reason to be thinking about in the first place? That makes no fucking sense. I'm disgusted by children who eat their boogers, but you know what. I've been able to go 40 some years without ever thinking about it or feeling the need to bring it up.
thisGuy wrote:
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What's next? Are who disagree with high taxes are secretly "obsessed" with high taxes? Are those who are disgusted by murdering people "obsessed" with murder?
Someone please tell the Gay Totalitarians that the real world isn't Opposite Day
Let us know when you come back from never never land.

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