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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#135747 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Your problem is you've adopted the LGBT "all or nothing" agenda hook, line and sinker.
Certainly, some homosexuals possess an irrevocable homosexual orientation when they're born -- but why do you fellows insist ALL homosexuals have it? Where is the science to support that claim?
We know that sexual orientation involves biology and environment. The LGBT eliminates environment from the equation completely and tells us ALL homosexuals are born that way.
But there's not a scintilla of evidence to support your "all or nothing" doctrine of homosexuality and the problem with that is you use this doctrine to convince school boards and parents there's absolutely no risk Little Johnny will have his sexual orientation swayed by "gay friendly" curriculum. You use it to adopt little boys.
You use it and your battery of other self-serving lies to gain access.
I've linked to an article describing how the LGBT pulled off its biggest fraud -- getting the APA to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder.
http://www.obamnesty.com/index.php...
That was not progress; that was book-burning and propaganda Josef Goebbells would be proud of. There were no new scientific/Medical discoveries leading the APA to conclude it had been wrong about homosexuality for 70 years; it was gays storming APA conferences, grabbing the microphone and shouting everyone down.
And tactics like that are what you people call science.
Well, you're wrong -- it's not science.
Sorry, but as usual....YOU be wrong!!

Ya know, I've heard that about Gays storming the convention, but there's NEVER been any evidence to that EXCEPT the opinion of folks like yourself.

We know that sexual orientation is a complex issue and involves GENETICS, HORMONES, BIOLOGY as well as environmental factors......take a look for yourself:
Compared to straight men, gay men are more likely to be left-handed, to be the younger siblings of older brothers, and to have hair that whorls in a counterclockwise direction.

US researchers are finding common biological traits among gay men, feeding a growing consensus that sexual orientation is an inborn combination of genetic and environmental factors that largely decide a person's sexual attractions before they are born.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/01/h...

Here's another article on Pet Scans:
http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2009/07/pet-s...

Personally, I don't necessarily buy into the "born" theory.....but I do believe that Gays and Lesbians are just who they are......like straight folks know their straight.

Oh and stop trying to think you know me.....YOU DON'T and each time you make these asinine statements.....you just look more foolish!!!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#135748 Apr 10, 2012
Watchmann wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a interesting point.
A transgendered would admit that genetically they are one gender physically, and another psychologically. A genetic mess-up that they try to remedy with hormones and sex-change surgery.
It makes perfect sense that male/female homosexuality would be a similar genetic disorder.
Why your resistance at grasping that concept?
Please show evidence that being Gay or Lesbian is in fact a genetic disorder. I'm a woman, who is a Lesbian, attracted to women......I'm not confused about my gender......and I have NO DESIRE to transform from Female to Male!!

When a person is transgender, they feel one way on the inside and another way on the outside, BUT their sexual orientation DOES NOT change with them......in other words if a man feels like a woman on the inside and was attracted to women, he will go through lots of therapy to help with the transition, BUT when she is through with the transformation will still like women....thus making her a Lesbian by definition.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#135749 Apr 10, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Please show evidence that being Gay or Lesbian is in fact a genetic disorder. I'm a woman, who is a Lesbian, attracted to women......I'm not confused about my gender......and I have NO DESIRE to transform from Female to Male!!
When a person is transgender, they feel one way on the inside and another way on the outside, BUT their sexual orientation DOES NOT change with them......in other words if a man feels like a woman on the inside and was attracted to women, he will go through lots of therapy to help with the transition, BUT when she is through with the transformation will still like women....thus making her a Lesbian by definition.
Would a gay transgendered know they are transgendered?

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#135750 Apr 10, 2012
Imprtnrd wrote:
<quoted text>omg, he gave you last warning! ROTFL. What's he going to do.....more whining, foot stomping, cry? To funny!
Or, in the alternative, they could ignore me completely. So much the better as far as I'm concerned, they don't really add anything of value to the discussion, because they cannot substantiate their opinions.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage, coming to the US Supreme Court for Constitutional review.
Don't jump the gun.
Its hardly jumping the gun when weve been asking you for months to offer a rational defense of same sex marriage bans, or to indicate a compelling state interest served by such bans that would render them constitutional.

We someone to walk into oral arguments at the US Supreme Court and offer the rationalizations that you have offered so far, they would be laughed out of court.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#135751 Apr 10, 2012
Watchmann wrote:
You make a interesting point.
A transgendered would admit that genetically they are one gender physically, and another psychologically. A genetic mess-up that they try to remedy with hormones and sex-change surgery.
It makes perfect sense that male/female homosexuality would be a similar genetic disorder.
Why your resistance at grasping that concept?
Because it is a mindless rationalization that is unsupported by any reputable medical or scientific body.
Winston Smith

Columbia, MD

#135752 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a liar.
Prove it closet queen.

Met any cute drag queens lately?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#135753 Apr 10, 2012
Watchmann wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a interesting point.
A transgendered would admit that genetically they are one gender physically, and another psychologically. A genetic mess-up that they try to remedy with hormones and sex-change surgery.
It makes perfect sense that male/female homosexuality would be a similar genetic disorder.
Why your resistance at grasping that concept?
Makes no sense.

You must be kidding me.

Are you transgender?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#135754 Apr 10, 2012
Watchmann wrote:
<quoted text>
Would a gay transgendered know they are transgendered?
If you must ask such a stupid question, then you have not a clue.

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#135755 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I made a choice to have sex with women just like you made a choice to go to bathhouses and have sex with men.
Why does this astonish you?
Please correct me, but when did I ask about sex?

You where never attracted towards another man correct?

BTW I am not a homosexual.
Polly Parrot

Santa Cruz, CA

#135756 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Your problem is you've adopted the LGBT "all or nothing" agenda hook, line and sinker.
Certainly, some homosexuals possess an irrevocable homosexual orientation when they're born -- but why do you fellows insist ALL homosexuals have it? Where is the science to support that claim?
We know that sexual orientation involves biology and environment. The LGBT eliminates environment from the equation completely and tells us ALL homosexuals are born that way.
But there's not a scintilla of evidence to support your "all or nothing" doctrine of homosexuality and the problem with that is you use this doctrine to convince school boards and parents there's absolutely no risk Little Johnny will have his sexual orientation swayed by "gay friendly" curriculum. You use it to adopt little boys.
You use it and your battery of other self-serving lies to gain access.
I've linked to an article describing how the LGBT pulled off its biggest fraud -- getting the APA to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder.
http://www.obamnesty.com/index.php...
That was not progress; that was book-burning and propaganda Josef Goebbells would be proud of. There were no new scientific/Medical discoveries leading the APA to conclude it had been wrong about homosexuality for 70 years; it was gays storming APA conferences, grabbing the microphone and shouting everyone down.
And tactics like that are what you people call science.
Well, you're wrong -- it's not science.
SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK
Winston Smith

Columbia, MD

#135757 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Look, lides, I've told you this before -- get some new material. You're posting the same craptrap over and over.
Hey prof, take some of your own medicine ya little closet queen. This aptly applies to all the claptrap crap you post repeatedly.
Winston Smith

Columbia, MD

#135758 Apr 10, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you feel that Homosexuality is a choice? People make a choice to be Gay, is that your contention?
Of course professor closet queen thinks it is a choice. He "chose" to have sex with women. In spite of his affection for cute trannies. He is as camp as KOA.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#135759 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Because they believe all the crap people like you pile on.
And I know this doesn't make sense to you, but that's because you've filled you tiny head with all that LGBT junk science -- crap like "Why would anyone choose to be bashed and abused?"
Gimmee me a break.
See all those boys on the rent-a-boy site? See all the young men in gay porno? Most of them don't identify as gay -- and do you really think their pimps give a rat's ass?
You're not homosexual until you choose to have sex and that's because there's no litmus test for homosexuality other than having sex -- not ferrets, not the size of your hypothalamus, not whether you lide quiche or prefer pink to blue.
All that is self-serving bunk air-heads like you promote as absolute natural law -- all of it is baloney.
No, they simply know who they are.

No, they simply know who they are without any extraneous nonsense.

You obviously know nothing of gay porn.

One doesn't need to have sex to know their sexual orientation.

Nonsense.
Winston Smith

Columbia, MD

#135760 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Your problem is you've adopted the LGBT "all or nothing" agenda hook, line and sinker.
Certainly, some homosexuals possess an irrevocable homosexual orientation when they're born -- but why do you fellows insist ALL homosexuals have it? Where is the science to support that claim?
We know that sexual orientation involves biology and environment.
Too bad sucker. You're stuck with yours. You can kick and stamp your precious little feet all you want, but you're gay and born that way. Come on out of the closet before you meltdown for good.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#135761 Apr 10, 2012
Watchmann wrote:
<quoted text>
Would a gay transgendered know they are transgendered?
You really don't understand do ya? A man who feels like a woman on the inside......will still be attracted to women.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#135762 Apr 10, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey prof, take some of your own medicine ya little closet queen. This aptly applies to all the claptrap crap you post repeatedly.
Prof. Marvel aka Gary Lloyd, is pissed because he is HIV+ and allegedly caught the virus when having anal sex with drag queens. Now he lives in denial.
Winston Smith

Columbia, MD

#135763 Apr 10, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
Please correct me, but when did I ask about sex?
You where never attracted towards another man correct?
BTW I am not a homosexual.
He loves a cute tranny on occasion. Apparently he feels that there is nothing wrong with that. One wonders where is favorite interstate rest area trolling ground is.
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#135766 Apr 10, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
If there isn't gay gene why do you people keep repeating your mantra "We were born this way!"?
And why do you insist hetero boys raised by gay males can't become gay?
Have they found a heterosexual gene, because I believe I was born heterosexual, because I have no memory of making the choice, it just came naturally to me. So I don't see any reason to not believe some homosexual were born homosexuals.
Is there someone arguing some children raised by homosexual can't become homosexuals?
Wouldn't that make those heterosexual boys bisexual boys?

Prof Marvel

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#135771 Apr 10, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Prof. Marvel aka Gary Lloyd, is pissed because he is HIV+ and allegedly caught the virus when having anal sex with drag queens. Now he lives in denial.
Good Show!

And I say, Old Boy, your powers of deduction are first rate.

Does Scotland Yard know about you, man?

Prof Marvel

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#135775 Apr 10, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>
Have they found a heterosexual gene, because I believe I was born heterosexual, because I have no memory of making the choice, it just came naturally to me. So I don't see any reason to not believe some homosexual were born homosexuals.
Is there someone arguing some children raised by homosexual can't become homosexuals?
Wouldn't that make those heterosexual boys bisexual boys?
No reason taxing your two brain cells with such difficult conundrums, Joe. Gays have it all figured out already.

Mind you -- nobody else has, but gays have.

The formula is wonderfully simple and works like this:

In all questions about homosexuality simply ask, "What answer will put gays in the best light?" and there's your answer.

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