Should a pedophile rapist have custody of a 4 year old girl?

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msbobbie

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Jul 10, 2006
 
There is a case coming up in the Leake County Mississippi Court on August 23 people in Carthage should be aware of. Melonie Knutson has already lost one of her children to Keith Tucker in a McCurtain County Oklahoma Court and now he has filed for custody of the other in Leake County.

Read for yourself why this should not be allowed to happen:

http://www.newsok.com/xml/rss/1868461/

http://www.bubbaworld.com/mccurtain1.html

And here to read an abbreviated story and comment:

http://bubbaworld.net/
http://wwhttp://www.bubbaworld .com/mccurtain1.html w.bubbaworld.com/mccurtain1.html
lPeople all over Oklahoma are talking about this. Hopefully the Judge in Mississippi has better judgment than the one in McCurtain County Oklahoma.
Abby

Tulsa, OK

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Jul 10, 2006
 
Let me get this straight, He raped the girl when she was 14 and impregnated her, she gave birth to two of his children. He went to the courts and they gave him custody of one of the chidren, a son, and ordered the 19 year old girl with 4 children to pay the rapist child support.

All of this, after it was determined, in the courts that he was a rapist. Now, the man has her back in court trying to get her 4 year old girl. All of this because she lives in a trailer and receives minimum wage and he makes over $3,000 a month working in a casino. The courts believed that he, the rapist, could provide a stable home. You all there in Leake County, Mississippi need to pay attention to this case, hopefully they will see that justice is done for Melonie and her children. Unlike the courts in McCurtain County, Oklahoma

Please, tell me it isn't so?

The report from www.bubbaworld.com is excellent.
msbobbie

Warner Robins, GA

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Jul 11, 2006
 
The way I understand it, Abby, 19 year old Melonie is a second cousin to 45 year old Keith Tucker. She was 14 at the time the abuse began and he was 40.

IMO, living in a trailer and earning minimum wage is not reason to take a 5 year old child away from his mother and give permanent custody to an admitted rapist plus order the young mother to give 20% of her meager earnings to someone who earns 4 times what she does.

What are Keith Tuckers living conditions? He needs to be in a 6x8 steel cage with bars all around.

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msbobbie

Warner Robins, GA

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Jul 13, 2006
 
I am amazed there is not more attention being paid to this story.

I have sent it to Bill O'Rielly, and I read on another board that someone else has asked 20/20 to get involved.
msbobbie

Warner Robins, GA

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Jul 14, 2006
 
I have more updates. Melonie has filed an appeal to that judges decision to take her son away. I pray she wins.

Interesting to me that the McCurtain County Judge who decided in favor of the admitted rapist father stated as one of his reasons for doing so is because the mother lives in a trailer. I live in a trailer. Some of them are quite nice. The fathers address is listed as a PO Box. Go Figure.
Abby

Talala, OK

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Jul 17, 2006
 
msbobbie,The District Attorney in this case was Virginia Sanders.. I have found an editorial to the article listed in your first post. Mrs. Sanders is on the ballot for July 25th District 17, McCurtain County, OK elections. Don't forget to vote.

http://www.bubbaworld.com/mccurtain1.html
msbobbie

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Jul 17, 2006
 
I am not in that district, abby. I wish I were. I have read the bubbaworld report. I am happy others are interested.
msdeb

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Jul 18, 2006
 

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I am in shock! The judicial system in OK. is obviously in need of major help. I have faith that our court system here in Carthage, MS will see that justice done correctly.
Abby

Talala, OK

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Jul 19, 2006
 
I hope and pray that you are right msdeb. This guy has already robbed Melonie of her childhood. The court has enabled him to proceed with possibly doing the same to his daughter.

I hope we all get to see justice served, and see this child living in a happy healthy home.
Abby

Jenks, OK

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Jul 27, 2006
 
This is a totally unrelated case, but DA, Virginia Sanders and Judge Michael DeBerry evidently got their heads together, once again in McCurtain County, OK to allow another rapist to have custody of little children. Do you see the similarities in relation to Melonie's case?

The McCurtain County's Primary Election that was held on Tuesday July 25th, Laura Wallis led the DA race with 40.68 percent of the vote. Virginia Sanders was second with 29.05 percent. They will meet in a run-off.

I've also seen a portion of this story on kotv.com in Tulsa and kten.com in Texas. Hopefully, you will see it there in Mississippi soon.

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This is the Breaking News at the Tulsa Daily World:)

Judge to reconsider granting child custody to registered sex offender
By AP Wire Service

7/27/2006 8:47:00 AM

IDABEL, Okla.(AP)-- A McCurtain County judge has been asked to reconsider awarding custody of a woman's two boys to her ex-husband -- a registered sex offender.

Associate District Judge Michael DeBerry ruled last month that frequent moves by the boys' mother, Joni May Nelson, showed instability and that the home of the father, Dustin Mitchell Seymour,'is the more fit and proper custodial placement for the minor children.'

Seymour, 27, was charged in August 2004 with three counts of second-degree rape and one count of interfering with an officer.

The charges came after Nelson said she found a videotape in his pickup that showed him having sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old girl. Nelson called police and Seymour was arrested.

Nelson's motion to reconsider will be heard by DeBerry on Monday. Nelson, 27, also was ordered to pay $237.50 per month in child support.

Her attorney, Phillip M. Andre, says DeBerry's ruling apparently went against a state statute that says it should be presumed to not be in the best interest of a child for a sex offender to have guardianship or custody.

Seymour and Nelson divorced Oct. 6, 2004. The next month, Seymour married the alleged rape victim in

Colorado, according to the marriage license. They now have a child and are living in a camper-trailer until they buy a home, his attorney, Kenneth Farley said.

In April 2005, McCurtain County District Attorney Virginia Sanders allowed Seymour to plead guilty to a lesser charge of sexual battery and one count of interfering with an officer, according to court records. The guilty plea required Seymour to register as a sex offender and serve five years probation.

Seymour's sex-offender status was mentioned at the hearing, but of more concern was which parent spent more time with the 4- and 6-year-old boys since the divorce -- and which provided the better home environment, Farley said.

Both parents claimed they were the boys' primary caregiver, and both had witnesses testifying on their behalf. Nelson's attorney said they intend to present more witnesses to support her custodial claims.

But even so, he said, Seymour's sex-offender status should have driven the judge's decision since the mother was not found unfit.

"Their role model becomes a guy who married his child victim," Andre said. "I don't know how you get to that point where you think that's a good idea. My idea was always if you're going to make a mistake, you make it in the best interest of the child."

Farley pointed out Nelson's difficulty in holding down a regular job, but Seymour was also unemployed. He was supporting himself with worker's compensation when the judge ruled. Seymour since has bought a tire and lube shop with his settlement and is buying a home.

Nelson said she lives with her boyfriend in a three-bedroom home in Midland, Texas. She has a 10-year-old son from a prior marriage and pointed out in court that separating her sons would damage their relationship.

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sunny

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Oct 13, 2011
 
I know this is an old story but I ran across it while researching pedophiles getting custody - any custody rights - when getting a divorce.
My daughter's husband at the time took a shower with my 4 yr old granddaughter (not his child but my son's). This happened September 2010. Their final hearing was today. The pedophile's parents wanted custody of my daughter's baby girl, she's 3.
The stupid corrupt judge - D Neil Harris - gave joint custody & not supervised any longer.
I want to know what can be done about this? Can an appeal be made?
What happens if she decides to move out of state?
Any info & help will be appreciated.
a pedophiles perspective

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Jun 7, 2012
 
Short answer - if there's no other suitable place except for a youth protection center then assessing the father's risk is, in my opinion, warranted. However, there's no free ride & the mother's situation must be seriously inadequate.
I'm a rehabilitaded pedophile.
I've done the therapy as well as I possibly could hoping that I can keep my mind from ever going back there. It's been 3 years since my arrest, and 6 months since I've completed the therapy and have been on my own with no supervision.
I do not think that a pedophile should even ask for custody .... unless all of the following are true:
- the child is at least 2-3 years older than the victims
- the child is aware of the crimes and does not try to rationalize what happened as "a human experience" ... it is messed up and required therapy
- the other parent is not able to provide a stable home (ie: drugs are present, child is quitting school, animal or human feces present ....)
- the child is comfortable with the arrangements
- the child was never a victim
- the pedophile continues therapy in some manner, such as abusive analcholic being forced to either attend AA or leave the house
- the pedophile does not associate with other pedophiles
- a therapist's assessment places the risk of recidivism as "low"
- the child also follows a therapist
- local police are aware and are invited to make social calls
- additional safeguards are placed so the pedophile is prohibited from using his own child to gain access to other children within 3 years of his victims' age (ie: cannot go swimming, or become active in a community center).
The child's security (actual and how they feel) remains key. If the (usually man) only had victims 6 and under, the child is now 14, and the choice is to either send the child to a youth center or to her father ... then I believe an assessment is warranted (if the man has not worked on himself, or has stopped working on himself then I give an automatic "no" as well)
Anonymous

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Jun 21, 2012
 
No it's sad need a new dhs system
Anonymous

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Aug 15, 2012
 
What is wrong with our systems
sunny

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Dec 25, 2012
 
This pedophile I spoke of above molested his own daughter at his parents house in October 2011. Mobile sheriff dept closed the case without even getting or reading the dr's report, which shows that there was physical damage to her. The child told DHS personnel about this incident soon after it happened.
Why won't people do their jobs?

How can you fight a corrupt, power hungry judge? What can legally be done?

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