Sheriff Jesse James is awful
wow

United States

#306 Jul 29, 2013
Krieger wrote:
Sounds like Mexico alright. I love SE Oklahoma, I just do not think I want to live there now. I will retire soon, so I am making plans, but the idea I have had in mind for the last 25+ years of moving back to OK is on hold. I know for a fact that there are many good people in OK, but that is true of everyplace on earth. It just seems that the good people have given up.
Dont listen to insider he is a dumbass se.oklahoma is a good place. Every state has some sort of problem just like every county. Just dont want u to.make a decision on dumbasses post
Bobby

Ada, OK

#307 Jul 29, 2013
Insider wrote:
Thanks Bobby. You've got my vote!!!
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Insider

Braggs, OK

#308 Jul 30, 2013
wow wrote:
<quoted text> Dont listen to insider he is a dumbass se.oklahoma is a good place. Every state has some sort of problem just like every county. Just dont want u to.make a decision on dumbasses post
You really should go back and read his past posts. His decision not to move here was based on his experience not my posts. Who's the dumbass now?
Insider

Braggs, OK

#309 Jul 30, 2013
Krieger wrote:
I heard that Beauchamp had a lot of respect. As an outsider looking in at current Latimer law enforcement, I can say I am not real impressed. I was looking at land in Latimer in February and was forced to the side of the road while I was exiting an area. I was on the legal access to the property. I had to scrape the side of my truck to get by the local, who I assumed owned the surrounding property. After trying to explain why I was there as he got more and more irate and I felt I was in serious danger. I drove on around him and he tried to ram my vehicle into a ditch. I got away and he did not follow. After a couple of days when I figured out the the real estate agent was not going to do anything, despite saying she would take care of it, I sent an email to Jesse James. No response. A month later I sent another one. No response. A month later I sent I sent another one. A couple of days later he wrote back, "I will investigate this matter". That was the first week in April. I have heard nothing.
Since that time I have found out about the Jamisons. They were looking at 40 acres, as was I. The only thing anybody seems to know for sure is that their way was blocked as they tried to exit, as was mine. This is scary. The scariest part is that the Sheriffs Department does not care. If something had happened I would be just another missing dead person.
I lived in Tuskahoma in the early 80's and I do not remember anything like the anarchy that exist now in Latimer. Tuskahoma is in Pushmataha I know, but it is next door to Latimer.
I still plan to leave Shreveport when I retire, but it will not be to go to SE Oklahoma as I had planned. Your property values just dropped $0.10. Does not sound like much, but multiply it by several thousand (the number of people that would like to live there, except they actually visited once). I have nothing against Sooners as most of my fathers ancestors were Sooners, many buried in Stanley. Let me say to those who still live there, Live Long and Good Luck.
Here's his past post. Note that he tried to contact Fat Jesse and had no response????? Was Fat Jesse out fishing and couldn't take the time to call????? If you're not familiar with the recent article in the paper Ill fill you in. A man is having problems with people dumping trash on his land and Fat Jesse won't take time away from fishing to handle it.

These are just two examples of people who have stepped forward to cite Fat Jesses refusals to do his job. How many others are out there that are too afraid to come forward?????
im mad

United States

#310 Jul 31, 2013
my kitten has the runs, i blame jesse. my job doesnt pay enough, yup jesses fault too. im scared to leave my moms house and get a life and a real girlfriend, you guessed it thats jesses fault too. if jesse wasnt sheriff we would all be living in the land of milk and honey.
Insider

United States

#311 Jul 31, 2013
i guess i should come clean, im just really jelly that jesse wont be my facebook friend. he doesnt understand how i really feel about him. he is all i think about both night and day and deep down inside i wish i could be more like him.
wow

United States

#312 Jul 31, 2013
Insider wrote:
<quoted text>
You really should go back and read his past posts. His decision not to move here was based on his experience not my posts. Who's the dumbass now?
Insider you are a cock whistle I can only hope that one day you will quit being a BITCH and use your real name. on second thought that might b a bad idea.After all of the name calling and lies you have told on people that caused them trouble at home you would have to hide
Insider

Braggs, OK

#313 Jul 31, 2013
Typical Fat Jesse fans. Reverting to name calling and pointing the finger at others. I'm not the only one upset about his pathetic work as sheriff. There are several people complaining that he's not doing his job, the job he campaigned and promised to do.

Why do all of the Fat Jesse fans have to blame me every time someone complains about him not doing his job? Did I make fat Jesse refuse to help the man who has people dumping trash on his property? Did I make Fat Jesse refuse to respond to Krieger when those people have him trouble up on the mountain? Did I tell Fat Jesse to ignore Kriegers information that could lead to resolve of the missing family case? Do I drag Fat Jesse out of the county to fishing holes and tell him to ignore his duty as sheriff? Have I made Fat Jesse ignore the huge drug problem in this county?

The obvious answer to all of these questions is no, so why do you blame me instead of Fat Boy?
insiderneedsanew wife

Tulsa, OK

#314 Aug 1, 2013
Typical Fat Jesse fans. Reverting to name calling and pointing the finger at others.
correct me if im wrong but isnt that what you did and do with the fat jesse, fatter dickson comments and constantly blaming the problems of this county on its sheriffs office and not on yourself ? why dont you fix the county, why dont you go bust the drug dealers, why dont you do anything to help out your fellow citizens you seem to care so much about ? i think its because you are a spineless chicken shit that in real life and in person has no clue what to do with his own life let alone somebody who has the backbone or character to try and babysit the people of an entire county. its real easy to sit behind your moms computer and be the big respected man you want to be. how about you let jesse deal with all these unhappy people. i mean if the county is so unhappy with him then they wont elect him again, seems pretty easy to me. im sure you will respond back with something like this (im not the one neglecting cases, im not the one hirinf people i dont like, im not the one having cases dropped) and your right. your not the one so you have no room to speak unless you are trying to change something. any wanna be buckaroo can sit in the back and question everything somebody does but it takes somebody entirely different to actually step up and do something. while i laugh out loud a lot at your special bulletin posts by the end i just feel sad that a grown man has nothing better to do than question another grown mans actions.
Insider

Braggs, OK

#315 Aug 1, 2013
That's another Fat Jesse fan tactic. Don't worry about what Fat Jesse is doing and mind my own business??? All of Fat Jesses crew would love for everyone to just turn a blind eye and keep our mouths shut. The Sheriffs job is an elected job that is supposed to answer to the people of the county.

I said from day one that the main reason I have pointed out these things is because I hoped it would motivate Fat Jesse to do the right thing. Having known Fat Jesse for several years, I know he is extremely lazy. My thoughts were that he may do something if he knew people are watching him but it hasn't worked yet.

He was elected to do the job of sheriff. Instead of being motivated by criticism his laziness continues to grow. As long as he is in a public position he will continue to get criticized when he's lazy. Any normal human being would finally get tired of the criticism and decide to get off their @$$ and stop being lazy. Fat Boy has chosen to do the opposite, he gets lazier and lazier everyday.
Insider is wrong

Braggs, OK

#316 Aug 3, 2013
I know Jesse is fat and all but I don't think his biggest problem is laziness. I think he is more ignorant than anything. In past posts you have mentioned Jesse's lack of experience and training. I think it has more to do with that than him being lazy. Although, he is pretty darn lazy.
Oh my

Braggs, OK

#317 Aug 4, 2013
Gary Summers wrote:
Wow! He is still at it. Think ima go fishing
Hey Gary, have you had any cases dismissed lately?

I bet you don't want to talk about that do you?
Chad Norman

Texarkana, TX

#318 Aug 4, 2013
Like Kreiger, I have entertained the idea of moving back up there one day. I'm from BV, my in-laws still live there, and we still own property there. Beautiful scenery and some of the nicest people you'd ever find.

But, when it comes right down to it, I don't think I will ever move back up there. Between the lack of quality in the schools and the lack of any real services rendered for taxes paid, it has little left to offer. There are so many other places that have so much more to offer when it comes time to invest hard earned after tax dollars. Latimer county just isn't competitive. It will always be it's own little backwards Democrat enclave.
Chad Norman

Texarkana, TX

#319 Aug 4, 2013
I have followed this topic for some time without making a comment. Here's my story of trying to get the Sheriff to do his job, and let people know what happens when you do need him.

Next month will be one year since the adjacent landowners to our property in Buffalo Valley leased our property to a group from the Tulsa area, defrauding them of $6,000.

Upon realizing what had happened, at the time, I called and spoke to an acquaintance who is a trooper in the area. He gave me a Game Warden to contact and Sheriff James. I told the Sheriff what had taken place, that the party had admitted, to me, to leasing our property, that we had all relevant paperwork, and that we wanted to pursue criminal charges. All we needed was the name of the group that had leased it out.

A couple of days later Game Warden Dane Polk called me. He had heard about it, and had some information that could help. We spoke at length. He was very professional and helpful. Enough so that afterward I wrote a letter to his superiors in OKC praising his job performance.

At the same time I became aware of what had taken place, the group of hunters realized that something fishy was going on and began to investigate from their end. One of them took off work, drove to Wilburton to find out if the guy they leased it from actually owned it. After discovering that he had leased property from someone that didn't own it he immediately walked across the street to the SO and asked to speak to the Sheriff.

Neither the Sheriff nor Under-Sheriff would see him. In spite of the fact that, according to him, he could see them sitting back in the office together. Mind you, this was after I had spoken to the Sheriff two or three times telling him that Dane Polk and myself were doing everything we could to locate this guy ... he walked right into the SO and got shoo'ed away.

After much more time and effort that was obviously needed, we finally did make contact with each other. We made arrangements to meet at the property to upcoming Saturday at noon with myself, the hunters that leased it, Dane Polk, and Sheriff James. Dane Polk, Myself, and the representative of the group of hunters all met at the prescribed time and place.

After waiting thirty minutes I called the SO and asked if Sheriff James was coming. I was told "He's off on Saturdays". Dane Polk attempted to raise the Sheriff on the radio but couldn't. Deputy Cody Vaughn did respond though, and was there inside ten minutes.

I actually started my LE career right there in Latimer county as one of Melvin Holley's original deputies. I like to think I know the good from the bad officers (Lord knows I saw a LOT of bad ones up there). I know Deputy Vaughn has been slammed in this topic by some. But, I found him to be a motivated and professional officer. Surprisingly so for Latimer county, actually.

I gave all relevant paperwork to Deputy Vaughn. The contract the hunters signed with the neighbor, a letter from the neighbor to the hunters cancelling their lease two days before because he "had sold it", copies of the ads they had placed on Craigslist offering it for lease, legal surveys, signed statements from all witnesses and landowners. ALMOST everything you would possibly need to make the case.

Deputy Vaughn advised me that he was attending the basic academy at the time, but would make sure to give everything to the Sheriff before he left that weekend, & did. I don't hold that against him. If anything, he was out and about on his day off.

Where are we now? Where we left off one year ago. Calls to the Sheriff were never returned, so I no longer waste my time with him. Myself and one of the hunters take turns hounding the DA's office once a month. According to Jeff Smith, all they're waiting for is the Sheriff to complete his report. That's it. Information I was able to find in 5 minutes on ODCR.com .

When it boils down to it ... lazy, incompetent, or corrupt doesn't matter. They all yield the same results.
Insider

Braggs, OK

#320 Aug 4, 2013
Chad, I am thankful that people like you and others are coming forward. I know many others who have fallen victim to crime and continue to be victim of a flawed sheriffs department just as you have. Many choose to complain behind closed doors and are for some reason afraid to go public. I am a firm believer in the old saying, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". My sole purpose for bringing these things public is in hopes that it will serve as a motivator for Jesse to do something. The minute Fat Jesse was elected I knew we were in big trouble. Reason number one is because of his past record as an officer. Reason number two because of his alliance with the local political machine as what I feel was a fast track to getting elected. I know for a fact that Jesse has followed Topix both as a reader and contributor in the past. Hopefully he will read your story and decide to do something. We have three and a half more years of his term. It has taken just a short amount of time for him to destroy what sheriffs before him built. Prior to Jesse being sheriff there were many drug busts every week, it was easy to contact the sheriff, and you got results from their deputies.

I agree with you 100% that Cody Vaughn once had exactly what it takes to be an excellent officer. His decision to follow Jesse became detrimental to his career. Any time one chooses to follow people like Jesse they are just asking for trouble. Not long after Cody graduated the academy he was promoted to undersheriff. My opinion is that one must have extensive experience in order to serve in such a position. Cody has since fallen victim to Jesses back stabbing and I hope he has learned a lesson. Maybe we will get a new sheriff next election and Cody can come back.

Your last sentence spoke of laziness, incompetence, and corruption. My opinion is that the Jesse James administration is the best example of all three. He chooses to stay away from work, go fishing, and refuses to respond to the publics cries for help in a show of laziness. His current and past work performance and law enforcement education level demonstrates and contributes to his incompetence. His open willfulness to align with the local political machine and do whatever it takes is indicative of corruption.
Krieger

Shreveport, LA

#321 Aug 4, 2013
Sorry to hear about that. I hate to judge someone I do not know, but my experience with Latimer's SD leave a lot to be desired. I quit worrying about if they will respond or not, but then again unlike you I do not have any property that I have to deal with. Fortunately I have quit looking for property in SE Oklahoma. I spent a lot of time (off from work) and money looking for land in Oklahoma, only to be threatened by locals, forgotten about by the real estate agent, and ignored by "law enforcement".

In the course of trying to find out what the hell is happening, I heard about the Jamisons. That is now the only interest I have in SE Oklahoma right now.

I will be doing some original investigating before too long. I think there was foul play involved, but I think what happened is not what most people think. Please post your theories.
Insider

Braggs, OK

#322 Aug 4, 2013
Krieger wrote:
Sorry to hear about that. I hate to judge someone I do not know, but my experience with Latimer's SD leave a lot to be desired. I quit worrying about if they will respond or not, but then again unlike you I do not have any property that I have to deal with. Fortunately I have quit looking for property in SE Oklahoma. I spent a lot of time (off from work) and money looking for land in Oklahoma, only to be threatened by locals, forgotten about by the real estate agent, and ignored by "law enforcement".
In the course of trying to find out what the hell is happening, I heard about the Jamisons. That is now the only interest I have in SE Oklahoma right now.
I will be doing some original investigating before too long. I think there was foul play involved, but I think what happened is not what most people think. Please post your theories.
I am interested to know if the real estate agent is a local agent. If he/she is you may want to start your investigation there. As we all know, the local political machine runs cash flow into and out of Latimer County along with everything else. I know of one real estate agent who is closely connected to the political machine and has ways of controlling who gets elected. I am interested to know if your agent is one who is connected with the local political machine.

I'm not sure if you know this or not but a huge natural gas boom hit Latimer County a few years back. The local political machine is privileged to inside information as to the possible future plans of gas companies. These companies visit with county officials to find out specifics on land they are looking at for drilling. Could it be that they don't want you and others buying up land so that they can when the right time comes?

I can almost guarantee you that they have anterior motives for getting the man they want elected as sheriff.
Insider

Braggs, OK

#323 Aug 4, 2013
Krieger wrote:
Sorry to hear about that. I hate to judge someone I do not know, but my experience with Latimer's SD leave a lot to be desired. I quit worrying about if they will respond or not, but then again unlike you I do not have any property that I have to deal with. Fortunately I have quit looking for property in SE Oklahoma. I spent a lot of time (off from work) and money looking for land in Oklahoma, only to be threatened by locals, forgotten about by the real estate agent, and ignored by "law enforcement".
In the course of trying to find out what the hell is happening, I heard about the Jamisons. That is now the only interest I have in SE Oklahoma right now.
I will be doing some original investigating before too long. I think there was foul play involved, but I think what happened is not what most people think. Please post your theories.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with the last election of Dennis Deela but Ill give you a brief of it. Dennis was challenged by Robert Skimbo. In the end Dennis won by a small margin. The Skimbos launched an investigation that was held back by time constraints according to law. They did however manage to prove that at least one ballot had been back dated by the local election office/political machine participant. I just wonder how many ballots were tampered with in that particular election as well as others that we do not know about. I am sure that the Skimbos could shed some light on this.
Chad Norman

Texarkana, TX

#324 Aug 4, 2013
Insider, I understand your motivation. Y'all seem to have some sort of history and you undoubtedly know all the parties involved better than I do. Calling the SO last year was the first time I had ever heard of Sheriff James, so I really have no dog in this hunt other than my specific experience.

In my circumstance what's the worst LCSO could do? Continue to do nothing? That area does have some history of little thugs running around with badges ... so if local residents fear retribution, I'm not sure I can blame them.

What I do know is this, LCSO has been nothing but chaos and turmoil for as long as I can remember. How many Sheriff's in the last 10 years? I never knew Beachamps, but have heard good things from people who's opinion I respect. I liked Wayne personally, but he never was going to cut it. Other than that, hasn't it just been a bunch of jackballs?

Latimer county gets about what it pays for. LCSO can never, and will never, retain good qualified deputies simply because of pay. When I was there I worked 80-100 hour weeks without days off for months at a time, for $1,200 a month. After a little over two years working in that area I moved 100 miles, doubled my pay, and halved my work week. I was 21 years old right out of college, and no real responsibilities, when I went to work for LCSO. I never could figure out how the guys with families made it around there.

Good deputies hire on, get certified, get used up, and move on to greener pastures. What you wind up with are the ones that either won't, or can't. My wife and Mother-in-law were both also favorably impressed with Deputy Vaughn. His grandparents were neighbors of mine, very fine people. I hope he winds up a trooper or at a large PD where he can make a living and fully develop as a professional. Hoping he comes back to LCSO is a curse I wouldn't wish on him.

You spoke of the local political machine ... are we talking about the same old Stipe alliance that's been running things around there for years? I know that when Melvin was in office, two of the three commissioners solidly backed him, almost as if there was a reason he was Sheriff in the first place. My MIL works on the election board, she'd never heard of or seen half the people that walked in to re-elect Melvin.

I'm not sure how many people realize just how much power that little local political machine has. I know for a fact they have enough to make the FBI uninterested in "local matters" like a dirty Sheriff two of his own deputies suspected of murder. I learned long ago to quit telling stories about my time at LCSO, because people that don't know the area simply don't believe them. You'd hope that times have changed since then.
Gary Summers

United States

#325 Aug 4, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Gary, have you had any cases dismissed lately?
I bet you don't want to talk about that do you?
The cases that I had dismissed were contributing alcohol charges. If you want to talk about that then ok

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