Controversy continues over 9 North Road

Controversy continues over 9 North Road

There are 45 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Jan 12, 2011, titled Controversy continues over 9 North Road. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Richard McClure wants the town manager's resignation. Town Manager Paul Cohen wants an apology.

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my2cents

Roslindale, MA

#1 Jan 12, 2011
This is a common theme by Cohen: no "dealings" took place. That's the point. He did nothing, and kept his mouth shut. That's as bad or worse than negotiating poorly. He didn't even try to take advantage of the fact that the land was available for a very low price, or even for no cash. Cohen purposely ignores the memorandum with a handwritten note by Dunn to explore land-for-tax-rebate option. Of course Dunn never explored it -- Cohen never followed up, never returned Dunn's calls.
nogood

Roslindale, MA

#2 Jan 12, 2011
An apology?!#!><? are you serious Paul- come on, you let then Selectman Eliopolous in 2008 negotiate the land from right under our nose. If anything, you should be on your knees begging for your job.
researcher

Roslindale, MA

#3 Jan 12, 2011
this will be a fun snow day- let's look at the record- we'll report back later
my2cents

Roslindale, MA

#4 Jan 12, 2011
Hey Researcher,
take a look at Pat's comments that we couldn't afford the land- the land acquisition account, which at the time had (and still has) over $400,000 in it specifically for the acquisition of land. So Pat is saying that because of budget cuts that were irrelevant, it was OK for the Town Manager to sit on the offer of land for sale for some $400,000 so we could be on the hook later for $12 million, or $11 million, or $9 million or whatever the latest silly proposal is to build a new fire station. Even if the town had passed the new fire station two years ago, the town could have sold the land with the central fire station, but now of incompetence- we have no option for the fire station but to spend over 10 million dolalrs- Thanks Pat and Paul
fruit cake

Westford, MA

#5 Jan 12, 2011
inside deal.Just buisness as usual
More lies

Lowell, MA

#6 Jan 12, 2011
my2cents wrote:
Hey Researcher,
take a look at Pat's comments that we couldn't afford the land- the land acquisition account, which at the time had (and still has) over $400,000 in it specifically for the acquisition of land. So Pat is saying that because of budget cuts that were irrelevant, it was OK for the Town Manager to sit on the offer of land for sale for some $400,000 so we could be on the hook later for $12 million, or $11 million, or $9 million or whatever the latest silly proposal is to build a new fire station. Even if the town had passed the new fire station two years ago, the town could have sold the land with the central fire station, but now of incompetence- we have no option for the fire station but to spend over 10 million dolalrs- Thanks Pat and Paul
It wasn't $400,000 it was more.

The land was under historical and would have been subject to those limitations

The town was refusing to buy any land at that time and never would have approved.

Roland, Dick et al, are LIARS and that has been proven over and over again.

Move on.......
More lies

Lowell, MA

#7 Jan 12, 2011
Wow, even the computer rejected McClure's name
Executive Session

Lowell, MA

#9 Jan 12, 2011
I wonder how many times they have met already to try and get their story straight? Who of the 5 Selectmen will tell the truth? Dalton? LMAO, Phil?(just a tad biased, eh?), Pat Wojick?(she already said we could not afford it).....that leaves Erick Dalberg and Claire Jeanotte.....hmmm? Both no longer running for office, Claire cries at drop of a hat, Erick would not lie under oath..... I say we need to hear from Claire and Erick at the next depsition.
formerBOS

Roslindale, MA

#10 Jan 12, 2011
researcher wrote:
this will be a fun snow day- let's look at the record- we'll report back later
Take a look at the planning board meeting between Dec 2008 and June 2009 and you will find what Cohen knew.
Researcher

Roslindale, MA

#11 Jan 12, 2011
More lies wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't $400,000 it was more.
The land was under historical and would have been subject to those limitations
The town was refusing to buy any land at that time and never would have approved.
Roland,**** et al, are LIARS and that has been proven over and over again.
Move on.......
The land was on the DPW/ fire department files for $300,000 and Epsilon paid $480,000- the historical limitation proves to be a red herring seeing that their is a three story building now on the property.
http://documents.chelmsford.k12.ma.us/dsweb/G... check out this link and you will see the town had options to fix the current station for about 1.5 million instead of the last proposal of 9 million and lots of building changes
snowday

Roslindale, MA

#12 Jan 12, 2011
I have been reading up on these stories and it still hasn't been explained how Phil Elipolous who was on the Board of Selectmen was able to buy the same property the town was intersted in? Why is this not being investigated-
fruit cake

Westford, MA

#13 Jan 12, 2011
snowday wrote:
I have been reading up on these stories and it still hasn't been explained how Phil Elipolous who was on the Board of Selectmen was able to buy the same property the town was intersted in? Why is this not being investigated-
Inside deal buisness as usual. now leys fund a 9mil dollar fire house when stations are still closed.
FRIENDS OF PHILLY

Lowell, MA

#14 Jan 12, 2011
More lies wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't $400,000 it was more.
The land was under historical and would have been subject to those limitations
The town was refusing to buy any land at that time and never would have approved.
Roland,**** et al, are LIARS and that has been proven over and over again.
Move on.......
MORE LIES, How appropriate! Team Philly must be sleeping in this morning. With all the recent news one would expect the E-Clan machine to be working overtime! Maybe right around now there is too much time being spent checking their underware! AAAHH to be a fly on the wall. Its starting to heat up. Its just a matter of time before someone throws someone under the bus. Hold that thought, the BOBO is on the other line and they have a few questions!
Vegas Bookie

Lowell, MA

#15 Jan 12, 2011
I'm currently taking action on this debacle; anyone interested, please post your wager....the current odds are:

Cohen throws Phil under bus.... 10-1

Phil throws Cohen under bus..... 9-1

Pat Mcarty throws both Phil and Cohen under the bus.......... 2-1

George Dixon throws himself under the bus.......... 1-2

Clare Jeanotte cries during her deposition.......... 1-4

Planning Board rents a bus to leave town.......... 1-10
Vegas Bookie

Lowell, MA

#16 Jan 12, 2011
Oooops, almost forgot.....

Grand Jury convened to investigate... 1-5
Vegas Bookie

Lowell, MA

#17 Jan 12, 2011
saved the best for last folks!

Land Court Judge Orders Demolition of Epsilon Building....... even odds
my2cents

Roslindale, MA

#18 Jan 12, 2011
The more I read and hear, this is larger than just Phil and Cohen, can you say 'conspiracy'...
fruit cake

Westford, MA

#19 Jan 12, 2011
Vegas Bookie wrote:
saved the best for last folks!
Land Court Judge Orders Demolition of Epsilon Building....... even odds
just fine part of construction doon with out proper permits or materials.Hopefully the foundation footings.
Roland Van Liew

Boston, MA

#20 Jan 12, 2011
Eric Dahlberg indeed will not lie, imo. In any case, he already told me last spring that he had no recollection of any discussion by Paul Cohen with the BOS of the purchase of land from Eastern Bank. Of course not! The BOS would have known that the money was in the land acquisition account -- over $400,000 -- and despite Pat Wojtas' ignorance, that money is designated specifically for land acquisition. It has NOTHING to do with the "tight budget" that Wojtas uses as an excuse for incompetent decision making and abuse of authority by the Town Manager.

Land purchase decisions are for the BOS to make, not the Town Manager. I asked Eric if it didn't bother him that the Town Manager had remained mum and then when the Eliopoulos' plans finally became public 6 months later he paved a new parking lot behind Old Town Hall right up to their property line without consulting the BOS. Eric called it "a communication problem." Well, that communication problem has become a 16,000 sq foot eyesore that's obliterated what was left of our Village Green and destroyed any faith in our selectmen who refuse to sort the matter out in Land Court.

That's right, the judge NEVER has "given the green light" to this project or stated that it was lawful. He said, "proceed with construction at your own risk." That's a yellow light: stop unless you think it's not safe to do so. It's not safe for Eliopoulos to stop because a formal inquiry will show that the construction is unlawful. He has to get it up before that happens! The judge even invited the BOS to weigh in so that the PR could be interpreted and enforced, but we all know what happened.
Thomas

Westford, MA

#21 Jan 12, 2011
This whole thing stinks bad. Depositions are another whole ball game. They are done under oath.

Break the oath and you can go to jail for perjury. The heat is on...

Wonder who is going to be deposed next.

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