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GlamGuy1979_7126 9

West Monroe, LA

#2 Mar 18, 2012
What are u talking about? they got that free money?
Kelli

Memphis, TN

#3 Mar 31, 2012
Farmers get subsidies for not planting certain crops. It helps them out.
GlamGuy1979_7126 9

West Monroe, LA

#4 Apr 3, 2012
Well, I should say it helps them out; It's no wonder that family in that listing drives new vehicles, has mansions & plenty of funds! I would like to see them women of that family on the farm. may break some nails!
Kelli

Monroe, LA

#5 Apr 14, 2012
Glamguy, my aunt and uncle worked their butts off when cotton was a high yielding crop. It is back breaking work especially when YOU are out in the fields from dusk to dawn. Not all farmers are just men. Not ALL these farmers live in mansions and drive fancy cars. The subsidies they get are for the year and it isnt a lot.
bustergirl

Frisco, TX

#6 Apr 14, 2012
How are you obtaining your information on our farmers? I am not speaking to the last comment I am asking the one above Kelli
MotherGoose

Calhoun, LA

#7 Apr 14, 2012
There's a web site that list the total government subsidies, disaster payments, etc on farmers. There was a link in the first post of this discussion that provided the link to that web site.
Born_to_Farm

Calhoun, LA

#8 Apr 14, 2012
http://farm.ewg.org/addrsearch.php...

/this is the original link posted on this discussion, i saved it to refer back to; you
can search for any name in any state-it's all
public information.
Born_to_Farm

Calhoun, LA

#9 Apr 14, 2012
not to be differing with your opinion, Kelli, but some of these people got almost 2 million dollars in 10 years plus each member of the family gets approximately the same-husband/wife/grown kids.
I would like to get into farming but i haven't found the goose's golden egg yet; we do need farmers in order to keep our grocery shelves stocked. So subsidies help keep the marketplace equal for US farmers! let's don't complain with our belly full!

Since: Oct 11

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#10 Apr 18, 2012
The link for the subsidy payments was really great! Thank you, Born_to_Farm! It shows a total of 15 years in subsidy payments. I made roughly $168,700. If you average it out, it's approximately $11,000 a year. But if you click on a persons name, you'll see it year by year. When you look at farmers payments, don't forget they also had crop insurance, diesel, seed, chemicals, equipment costs, hired labor (if they were fortunate enough to afford it), custom work (if they couldn't provide their own picking or combining), etc. While some complain about farmers being over compensated for their work, I can testify it was the hardest work I've ever had to do. The cab in my tractor would get over 120 degrees in the summer because I wouldn't pay to get a new compressor for the a/c. I ended up turning all but 30 acres into CRP and let nature take its course. Farming is a rough life and in a bad year, the rewards are very slim.

Since: Apr 11

Rayville, LA

#11 Apr 25, 2012
First off there's way more than subsities you don't know the half of it...but I will say this, the goverment doesn't buy the local carpenter or plumbers tools at the first of the year...farming should be left alone like other businesses and the weak die and the strong survive...just how it goes for the rest of us

Since: Oct 11

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#12 Apr 25, 2012
GlamGuy1979_71269 wrote:
Well, I should say it helps them out; It's no wonder that family in that listing drives new vehicles, has mansions & plenty of funds! I would like to see them women of that family on the farm. may break some nails!
I know the farmer you are referring to isn't myself or my husband. Break nails? I can promise you I didn't have any nails to break when I farmed. I farmed just like a man. Hoed cotton, packed cotton trailers, plowed, sprayed, drug off, changed tires on trailers, etc.(Not on tractors). Farmers did not write the subsidy programs. They were written before most farmers of today were even a gleam in their mothers eyes. Would it behoove us to tell the Government we don't want their help? This is our living. If we can't plant, we can't sell. And we're on the bottom of the food chain. Examine how much a farmer gets for cotton and how much you pay for cotton clothing, sheets, towels, etc. Or fruits and vegetables, meat, etc. We sell to a buyer, who sells to a manufacturer or grocer, who in turn sells to you. We could all stop farming or ranching and let you grow your own food, weave your own cloth and see how long you last.

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#13 Apr 25, 2012
RAZORBK wrote:
First off there's way more than subsities you don't know the half of it...but I will say this, the goverment doesn't buy the local carpenter or plumbers tools at the first of the year...farming should be left alone like other businesses and the weak die and the strong survive...just how it goes for the rest of us
Most of the weak have died off, RAZORBK. The big farmers have taken over because the little ones couldn't afford to farm anymore. Some farmers claimed bankruptcy a few years ago and put their businesses in their sons or daughters names. Managed to keep everything they owned and guess who paid for it? I may not know the half of it, but I do know there are things going on that shouldn't be. I'm not a part of it and don't like it. But, what can you do? We couldn't have made it without the subsidies (as small as they were) or crop insurance (which costs alot when you never need it). Would farmers be better off if they had plumber and carpenter unions? Maybe, but then it would cost non-farmers more for the products in the long run. Everything the government has started has failed miserably (in my opinion). Look at the misuse of Medicaid, the destruction of Social Security, the misuse of subsidies (yes, I know it's there), the imminent failure of Medicare - and the list goes on. If subsidies are taken away from farmers, what will happen to the retired farmers living on a piddling dab of Social Security?

Since: Apr 11

United States

#14 Apr 26, 2012
Judy A Green wrote:
<quoted text>Most of the weak have died off, RAZORBK. The big farmers have taken over because the little ones couldn't afford to farm anymore. Some farmers claimed bankruptcy a few years ago and put their businesses in their sons or daughters names. Managed to keep everything they owned and guess who paid for it? I may not know the half of it, but I do know there are things going on that shouldn't be. I'm not a part of it and don't like it. But, what can you do? We couldn't have made it without the subsidies (as small as they were) or crop insurance (which costs alot when you never need it). Would farmers be better off if they had plumber and carpenter unions? Maybe, but then it would cost non-farmers more for the products in the long run. Everything the government has started has failed miserably (in my opinion). Look at the misuse of Medicaid, the destruction of Social Security, the misuse of subsidies (yes, I know it's there), the imminent failure of Medicare - and the list goes on. If subsidies are taken away from farmers, what will happen to the retired farmers living on a piddling dab of Social Security?
subsidies are only about 30% of the assistance that they get...not asking for a union by any means but what I am asking for is for free enterprise to take over in farming, no, without subsidies you can't deer hunt comfortably in Canada...but cut the goverment programs, and those willing to make an honest buck on their own will rise to the top...that's how business works in this country, always has always will

Since: Oct 11

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#15 Apr 27, 2012
RAZORBK wrote:
<quoted text>
subsidies are only about 30% of the assistance that they get...not asking for a union by any means but what I am asking for is for free enterprise to take over in farming, no, without subsidies you can't deer hunt comfortably in Canada...but cut the goverment programs, and those willing to make an honest buck on their own will rise to the top...that's how business works in this country, always has always will
I enjoy "talking" to someone who isn't augmentative and am really seeing your side of it (as well as others). To be honest? I wish we'd made enough to hunt in Canada - or heck - Texas. One of the candidates for President (I believe Romney, but don't quote that) is suggesting cutting or doing away with a lot of subsidies. Many Governors have done away with Food Stamps "without a drug test".(Yay!) We receive money from the Federal Government (Agriculture Dept.) for the land in CRP (trees). It isn't much, but it allows me to have a computer, compensate for what we don't have for my health insurance, etc. It dwindles some every year until it runs out.(10 years was what was signed up for). I'd hate to see that taken away since I know it will be gone in about 5 years. To cut to the chase, you're right. As well as others who have complained. I'm not being a bigot because what we get is not a subsidy. Its purpose is to re-forest. And we'll be dead and gone before the trees are big enough to sell. I obviously can't put names on here, but if you go to the earlier link and check it out, you'll be able to see one who obviously went bankrupt. The other big farmer farms in Mississippi and all around NE Louisiana. He and his sons work hard. The only reason I can figure his wife gets subsidies is she is receiving them on land she owns and he farms. All their homestead land was in her family. The government needs to figure out a way to make honest people out of everyone receiving monies from them. They've caught a lot of farmers in Arkansas over the past 20 years, but I don't know of 1 case here. Maybe it's up to us, the people, to figure out a way to straighten the messes up.
Anonymous

Rayville, LA

#16 Apr 28, 2012
Many many years of farming , there was no money left over after the crops were all done. The gov. Payments helped to pay back debts so that a crop loan could be received for the next year. The payments are designed to keep food prices down. ( we , in the USA, have the cheapest food prices in the world). Farmers do not get paid to not farm the land. That was a program in the 1970's that was intended to reduce overproduction. Its easy to compare farmers to plumbers, and other businesses, but if we ever have to rely on food the way we do oil the USA is done. The gov payments only offset huge expenses that it takes to produce the crops today. Just trying to state the facts.
dont give a darnet

Haslet, TX

#17 Jun 17, 2012
Farmers are a joke! Just like state troopers!

Since: Oct 11

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#18 Jun 18, 2012
dont give a darnet wrote:
Farmers are a joke! Just like state troopers!
Yeah? Farmers in America keep people from paying high prices for imports. At least you're eating well, because of farming!

Since: Apr 11

Mangham, LA

#19 Jun 18, 2012
Judy I am probly eating too well...
dont give a darnet

Haslet, TX

#20 Jun 18, 2012
Judy you all up in every post on here. Are you board with life? Is this all you have to to is look at topix? Find you a stiff one to play with!

Since: Oct 11

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#21 Jun 20, 2012
dont give a darnet wrote:
Judy you all up in every post on here. Are you board with life? Is this all you have to to is look at topix? Find you a stiff one to play with!
Tsk, tsk. That's the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?

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