Sparring Partners

There are 33 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Jul 6, 2008, titled Sparring Partners. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Should greyhound racing be banned? There is sentiment on the rise across the country to that effect.

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OG Frank

North Reading, MA

#21 Jul 9, 2008
SJones from Dracut wrote:
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Sorry to break this to you but Gus and Pauls has been closed for a while now. Looks like you can only get it at the track now (unless that gets taken away also). You may want to vote no on the ban.
Opened back up a couple weeks ago under new owners. Same upstanding citizens hanging out in the front smoking their butts though.
MrMillCity_com

Boston, MA

#22 Jul 9, 2008
I care for Greyhounds...enough to want better standards for them. Stiffer penalties for abuse, more inspections. But to ban racing? Absolutely not.

I just don't like the we're right, you're wrong arguments happining here.

“Lowellita is awful.”

Since: Nov 07

Lowell, MA

#23 Jul 9, 2008
MrMillCity_com wrote:
I care for Greyhounds...enough to want better standards for them. Stiffer penalties for abuse, more inspections. But to ban racing? Absolutely not.
I just don't like the we're right, you're wrong arguments happining here.
Making sense as usual.....
MrMillCity_com

Boston, MA

#24 Jul 9, 2008
Lowellian wrote:
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Making sense as usual.....
By going to a dog park and betting a hound doesnít mean you advocate animal cruelty.
I see two separate issues here. 1. A slowly dying American entertainment outlet. 2. Animal cruelty, and acceptable animal care standards.

Dog racing as DW mentions in his debate is about as popular as Moxie soft drinks these days. In an age where we have 24/7 sports coverage, on-line sports books, Indian Reservation CasinosÖ people donít have to go too far to get their gambling fix. All of which are more appealing to younger generations than dog racing.

In the mean time, who says that Greyhounds have to live in Torture chambers? Why canít people who are sooooo adamant about ending this activity channel some of that energy into advocating for better/safer standards for the racers?
SJones from Dracut

Bedford, MA

#25 Jul 9, 2008
Sorry 4theDogs as I said I wasn't picking a side therefore to call me self-righteous would be a bit judgemental. Just had a couple points I needed to make.

I would argue 1 point with you. In this context I don't see the difference between born and bred (and yes I know the difference). As far as I know most greyhounds are BORN to breeders to race. I'm not aware (and I'll concede to you if proven wrong) of too many people that buy greyhounds from breeders as pups. Most of the folks that I've known have adopted through greyhound rescue leagues. In this context I think it's fair to say most greyhounds are BORN to run.

I both think the breed is a wonderful dog yet I also enjoy going to see them do what they were bred to do which is race (although I haven't been to one in over 4 years). They are tremendous athletes and it's amazing to watch them do what they are gifted at doing.
SJones from Dracut

Bedford, MA

#26 Jul 9, 2008
OG Frank wrote:
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Opened back up a couple weeks ago under new owners. Same upstanding citizens hanging out in the front smoking their butts though.
My bad. Hadn't been down that section of Chelmsford St in a while.
SJones from Dracut

Bedford, MA

#27 Jul 9, 2008
MrMillCity_com wrote:
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By going to a dog park and betting a hound doesnít mean you advocate animal cruelty.
I see two separate issues here. 1. A slowly dying American entertainment outlet. 2. Animal cruelty, and acceptable animal care standards.
Dog racing as DW mentions in his debate is about as popular as Moxie soft drinks these days. In an age where we have 24/7 sports coverage, on-line sports books, Indian Reservation CasinosÖ people donít have to go too far to get their gambling fix. All of which are more appealing to younger generations than dog racing.
In the mean time, who says that Greyhounds have to live in Torture chambers? Why canít people who are sooooo adamant about ending this activity channel some of that energy into advocating for better/safer standards for the racers?
I agree here. Why can't those groups spending all this money fighting bad breeders and trying to illegalize dog racing just use that money to support GOOD breeders/trainers? Work with the venue's to give them the "we use good breeders stamp of approval" that they could then turn around and use as positive PR? I mean these dogs are meant to run and it's wonderful watching them run. To kill greyhound racing you may actually end up ending the breed.
TWP

AOL

#28 Jul 9, 2008
"You're wrong. It doesn't matter what the citizens of this state want.All that matters is what that &*^% DiMasi wants.He runs the state"(Lowell4Life") .

Actually, the reason we citizens in our state vote on many things is because no one person makes those decisions. I'm taken back to a former time in our country when slavery was legal...if people had not spoken up about the atrocities of slavery, it would never have been outlawed. Maybe in fifty years after greyhound racing has been banned, people will say, as we now do about slavery,'how could people ever have behaved that way'? Yes, greyhounds are not people, but they are being abused, and it must stop. Let them run to their hearts' content in a safe field...where people do not make money as the hounds risk life and limb...Just because something is happening now does not mean that it is right; and many of us MA people do not want such abuse to happen in our state...
gump worsley

Cary, NC

#29 Jul 11, 2008
lets go to seabrook in august..when do you go to saratoga??
gump worsley

Cary, NC

#30 Jul 11, 2008
mike fuller wrote:
kind of a poor challenge. The sports guys is so dumb. Sounds like a typical drunk sports nut.
you obviously don't know Haffenreffer
Carrie Nation

Portland, OR

#31 Jul 13, 2008
Stop demonizing the good people in racing. Not all dog and horse trainers are abusing their animals. Most dog abuse occurs in pet homes, sorry to say... What's next, BAN pets?

This same measure was defeated in 2000, because of lies and distortion used by animal rights groups. Now, Deja Vu... the same misinformation is being used to advance their extremist agenda. Just read these responses!- Two claiming that greyhounds are "forced" to race. Have these people lost their mind?

The ladies may be well intentioned, but they clearly don't understand greyhounds and this "ban" sounds like something put forth by religious zealots. FACT: the Ku Klux Klan were a main supporter of "Prohibition" and we all know how that worked out!!
Cliff

AOL

#32 Jul 27, 2008
I worked at Lincoln Greyhound Park for 5 years and have recently returned. I am an animal lover and I adopted a greyhound as a pet. I very very rarely saw cruelty of any kind intentionally used on a greyhound. They are the money makers and lifeblood of the kennel. It only makes sense to take care of your expensive investment and that is exactly what occurs. Having said that, the accidents on the track can be gruesome and disturbing. I've seen that too. But they are just that - accidents. Many steps were taken to reduce these incidents and I saw those steps work. Sun glare was the #1 culprit. I wouldn't want the life of the greyhound as compared to other dogs, but by no means are those kennels torture chambers as the radical nutty animal rights activists would have you believe. I would have resigned on day one if it was true. They are full of $h!t.

“...first the spankings...”

Since: Jul 08

Not YOUR Uptight Rich Suburb

#33 Jul 30, 2008
MrMillCity_com wrote:
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By going to a dog park and betting a hound doesnít mean you advocate animal cruelty.
I see two separate issues here. 1. A slowly dying American entertainment outlet. 2. Animal cruelty, and acceptable animal care standards.
Dog racing as DW mentions in his debate is about as popular as Moxie soft drinks these days. In an age where we have 24/7 sports coverage, on-line sports books, Indian Reservation CasinosÖ people donít have to go too far to get their gambling fix. All of which are more appealing to younger generations than dog racing.
In the mean time, who says that Greyhounds have to live in Torture chambers? Why canít people who are sooooo adamant about ending this activity channel some of that energy into advocating for better/safer standards for the racers?
Do people still race horses or have we banned that as well?

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