Raymore City Council To Vote On Loose...

Raymore City Council To Vote On Looser Gun Laws

There are 15 comments on the Fox4KC story from Dec 14, 2009, titled Raymore City Council To Vote On Looser Gun Laws. In it, Fox4KC reports that:

The Raymore City Council will decide Monday night if they are ready to loosen gun laws in the city.

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Brewno

Leavenworth, KS

#1 Dec 14, 2009
I think that would be great if they do I think everyone should be able to carry if they are law following people without a violent record it would probably drop the crime rate down.
Mary D

Kansas City, MO

#2 Dec 14, 2009
Dumbest thing I ever heard of.
SBK1

Kansas City, MO

#3 Dec 14, 2009
The wrong people are always the ones to use the law to their advantage....bad idea.
Neil

Dos Palos, CA

#4 Dec 14, 2009
Brewno is right. when honest law abiding people are armed and trained everyone is safer. trained armed civilians are generally much better trained then the police who are poorly trained unless they seek out professional training on their own.criminals will always be armed no matter what the law says, the police might catch the bad guy after the damage is done but they prevent nothing, thats not their job.
Richard Pick

Shawnee, KS

#5 Dec 15, 2009
Will I think I do not belong in Raymore no longer or my Family ,and I live in Belton. Also now what do I do my Dotor is in Raymor too,Wal-Mart,Lows,. Do we have to me afrade to be enny ware in Cass County or South Jackson County.
Jonathan Seeley

United States

#6 Dec 15, 2009
The bills that passed do a lot more than arm the council members. This is a very strong second amendment bill that allows citizens in Raymore as much freedom as State law allows, and corrects some illegal ordinances that State law prohibits.

Richard Pick might be interested to know that statewide concealed carry licenses have been issued for the past six years. The bills that passed last night don't change the current situation in which law-abiding citizens are already carrying concealed firearms in his doctor's office, walmart, Lowes, and other places throughout Raymore, Belton, and the State. Before he thinks he needs to move from Missouri, realize that 48 states have some form of concealed weapons licenses for ordinary citizens.
Mac

Kansas City, MO

#7 Dec 15, 2009
Good an armed society is a civil society
Tip of the iceberg

Pikeville, KY

#8 Dec 15, 2009
Neil wrote:
Brewno is right. when honest law abiding people are armed and trained everyone is safer. trained armed civilians are generally much better trained then the police who are poorly trained unless they seek out professional training on their own.criminals will always be armed no matter what the law says, the police might catch the bad guy after the damage is done but they prevent nothing, thats not their job.
You could no be more wrong. Civilians are generally poorly trained. A one day conceal carry class hardly makes a person "much better trained than the police." As a matter of fact my department requires us to qualify several times a year. If an officer failed to qualify, they are not allowed to return to duty until they can qualify. Some of our training requires move and shoot drills, opposite hand drills, shooting from several positions, and shooting from cover/concealment. I don't believe any of those are in the conceal carry class.
Next time you want to dig at someone, educate yourself first.

Since: Oct 09

Belton, MO

#9 Dec 15, 2009
Richard Pick wrote:
Will I think I do not belong in Raymore no longer or my Family ,and I live in Belton. Also now what do I do my Dotor is in Raymor too,Wal-Mart,Lows,. Do we have to me afrade to be enny ware in Cass County or South Jackson County.
Check your spelling, I could hardly follow your comment.
Neil

Sanger, CA

#10 Dec 15, 2009
Tip of the iceberg wrote:
<quoted text>
You could no be more wrong. Civilians are generally poorly trained. A one day conceal carry class hardly makes a person "much better trained than the police." As a matter of fact my department requires us to qualify several times a year. If an officer failed to qualify, they are not allowed to return to duty until they can qualify. Some of our training requires move and shoot drills, opposite hand drills, shooting from several positions, and shooting from cover/concealment. I don't believe any of those are in the conceal carry class.
Next time you want to dig at someone, educate yourself first.
Officer Tip. no one has more respect for LEO s then I do. I am a former LEO. what seems to have escaped your notice is that many civilians have far more training then a ccw class, including move and shoot drills, opposite hand drills, shooting from several positions, and shooting from cover/concealment and then some. It olso seems that if you received that kind of training from your department, you are the exception in the LEO world. most spend 1 or 2 days a year at the range and then only shoot at static paper targets. I recommend that you checkout Frontsight.com . this one school alone has 300 to 500 civilians a week training there, a lot of them return regularly. there are schools like this all over the country. the more armed and trained civilians there are, the more likely it is that you and your fellow law enforcement officers will get to go home after your shift. stay safe Tip
PStahl - USMC - Ret

Deltona, FL

#11 Dec 15, 2009
This is a prudent measure.
Item 1 - The U. S. Constiution allows for the right to bear arms.
Item 2 - There is much evil (foreign and domestic) in this world. The good guys need to be better prepared to defend against evil. This is a step in that direction - where good, right, just public assemblies are potential tarkets of evil.
Neil

Sanger, CA

#12 Dec 15, 2009
PStahl - USMC - Ret wrote:
This is a prudent measure.
Item 1 - The U. S. Constiution allows for the right to bear arms.
Item 2 - There is much evil (foreign and domestic) in this world. The good guys need to be better prepared to defend against evil. This is a step in that direction - where good, right, just public as
semblies are potential tarkets of evil.

You are so right. bad guys will carry no matter what the laws say and there are not enough cops to protect anyone. it's not their job anyway.
Neil

Sanger, CA

#13 Dec 15, 2009
PStahl. thank you for your service.
George

Blue Springs, MO

#14 Dec 19, 2009
This is not about a gun law; it is about a politically ambitious city council member trying to make a name for himself. Jeff Cox lost his election bid for Cass County Prosecutor. He was later appointed to the Raymore City Council after the elected rep and his replacement both resigned. The people of Raymore have not elected him to anything and hopefully never will.

As a protegee of our ethically challenged State Attorney General, Chris Koster, Cox appears to seek public office to serve his personal ambition and not the citizens of his community.
stealth

United States

#15 Jan 13, 2010
Tip of the iceberg wrote:
<quoted text>
You could no be more wrong. Civilians are generally poorly trained. A one day conceal carry class hardly makes a person "much better trained than the police." As a matter of fact my department requires us to qualify several times a year. If an officer failed to qualify, they are not allowed to return to duty until they can qualify. Some of our training requires move and shoot drills, opposite hand drills, shooting from several positions, and shooting from cover/concealment. I don't believe any of those are in the conceal carry class

Next time you want to dig at someone, educate yourself first.
People who go to the trouble of acquiring a CCW permit DO practice as often as any cop. All of the shoot-outs I have seen on the NEWS lately shows me the cops need more trips to the shooting range (every city) 60-70 rounds fired the suspect is wounded twice and still breathing. That is the work of the cops.

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