what happened to the city's glitch..

what happened to the city's glitch..

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CONCERNED

Ravenswood, WV

#1 Aug 22, 2011
i don't know how you all feel, but I think we as citizens of this town should be given a report of the computer systems at the Ravenswood City Mayor's Office that had glitches for 3 years.
Could this glitch allowed the Chief to get the city paid insurance that puts his salary with insurance up to $51.000.+$12.000. for the total of salary + benefits of $62,000. Is no one concerned about this but me.
Could this glitch allowed the Mayor to hire another "drug person"...so now we have a drug person and had a drug dog. At a flat rate of $30,000. Or was the available money's be a glitch too.
Citizens I think you will swallow your tongue if you knew how much overtime The Captain and The Corporal made in overtime while the officers were gone. Aren't you curious? It is your right to know because believe it or not Lucy it isn't your money or Kendra's money. It belongs to the citizens.
Again,$62.000.00 a year for a chief who has only no leadership training what so ever. But is this all a Glitch too?
Need a new freezer go see if Kendra has a glitch that day or not.
Answers, all we want are answers and not from the lying mouths of liers and control freaks.
CONCERNED

Ravenswood, WV

#2 Aug 22, 2011
Also, the Jackson Herald/Jackson Star News. I will go on record to tell you that I will no longer purchase your papers. You fail to be nonpartical reports and if there is any controvery you just don't report it in your papers. I want to tell you if RvPD has a hey look at me I am great you are right there. But, if someone screws up..like an officer getting in his vehicle and leaving a man laying there with a cracked skull. I am sure readers are interested in that too.
TELL IT ALL OR LEAVE.
CHIEF SALARY

Ravenswood, WV

#3 Aug 23, 2011
You have got be kidding me? When is the next council meeting? I will go voice my opinion on this. Do you have to be on the list to speak or your name at that night of the meeting? Is there a deadline for your name to be on the list of topics? What in the world is going on there. This morning when I was going to work..There was a pack of them stopping vehicles. COME ON LUCY.....I seen on CNN this morning that WV was the most unhappy state. Lucy come on are you having a mental breakdown. Get it together woman.
Morrison is out of control.
Sure

United States

#4 Aug 23, 2011
CONCERNED wrote:
i don't know how you all feel, but I think we as citizens of this town should be given a report of the computer systems at the Ravenswood City Mayor's Office that had glitches for 3 years.
Could this glitch allowed the Chief to get the city paid insurance that puts his salary with insurance up to $51.000.+$12.000. for the total of salary + benefits of $62,000. Is no one concerned about this but me.
Could this glitch allowed the Mayor to hire another "drug person"...so now we have a drug person and had a drug dog. At a flat rate of $30,000. Or was the available money's be a glitch too.
Citizens I think you will swallow your tongue if you knew how much overtime The Captain and The Corporal made in overtime while the officers were gone. Aren't you curious? It is your right to know because believe it or not Lucy it isn't your money or Kendra's money. It belongs to the citizens.
Again,$62.000.00 a year for a chief who has only no leadership training what so ever. But is this all a Glitch too?
Need a new freezer go see if Kendra has a glitch that day or not.
Answers, all we want are answers and not from the lying mouths of liers and control freaks.
Concerned.....take the situation for what it is and let me play devils advocate. First off, the "citizens" tax dollars you are talking about is no longer yours or mine. It belongs, in this case, to the City of Ravenswood. Lucy and a few select people watch over and spend this money because the voters elected them to office to take care of such task. If they are not doing a good job or spending the money illegally they should be forced to answer for their actions. Who is going to do this? Who wants to do it? It could take years to accomplish what? A slap on the wrist if found guilty. I would say to be careful when voting people in for office and only elect the "honest people". Remember what the definition of a padlock is. It is a device to keep the honest people out. Look at the Jackson County Board of Educations actions. The taxpayers said NO to the levy to build 2 new schools a few years back. What did they do? They bought the property anyway. We have no control as individuals but we do as a group. Try to get a group together and fight them and see how far you get.
CHIEF SALARY

Ravenswood, WV

#5 Aug 23, 2011
The thing about this SURE. Council never voted on the pay scale for the chief. He did not need insurance then so it was tacked on to his salary..putting it $51,000 that included the cost of insurance. Was not approved by council. That is what the clerk said. This has been theproblem the entire administration of Harbert. She picks and choses what she will give the public.

I really appreciate your advise. Who do you report this to. I will feel better if someone who administers any foul play would check this out. Does the city clerk know what she is doing? I seen her in the park a few days ago and she is covered in tattoos (not that tattoos are bad) but they make you look deranged. I know this is freedom of speech. And, I have to disagree in a way that the money sure is not the Mayors alone it belongs to council.

Thank you for the knowledgeable advise.
doubuy

Mason, WV

#6 Aug 23, 2011
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Raven

Mason, WV

#7 Aug 24, 2011
CONCERNED wrote:
i don't know how you all feel, but I think we as citizens of this town should be given a report of the computer systems at the Ravenswood City Mayor's Office that had glitches for 3 years.
Could this glitch allowed the Chief to get the city paid insurance that puts his salary with insurance up to $51.000.+$12.000. for the total of salary + benefits of $62,000. Is no one concerned about this but me.
Could this glitch allowed the Mayor to hire another "drug person"...so now we have a drug person and had a drug dog. At a flat rate of $30,000. Or was the available money's be a glitch too.
Citizens I think you will swallow your tongue if you knew how much overtime The Captain and The Corporal made in overtime while the officers were gone. Aren't you curious? It is your right to know because believe it or not Lucy it isn't your money or Kendra's money. It belongs to the citizens.
Again,$62.000.00 a year for a chief who has only no leadership training what so ever. But is this all a Glitch too?
Need a new freezer go see if Kendra has a glitch that day or not.
Answers, all we want are answers and not from the lying mouths of liers and control freaks.
Agree
psycho

New Haven, WV

#8 Aug 24, 2011
CHIEF SALARY wrote:
The thing about this SURE. Council never voted on the pay scale for the chief. He did not need insurance then so it was tacked on to his salary..putting it $51,000 that included the cost of insurance. Was not approved by council. That is what the clerk said. This has been theproblem the entire administration of Harbert. She picks and choses what she will give the public.
I really appreciate your advise. Who do you report this to. I will feel better if someone who administers any foul play would check this out. Does the city clerk know what she is doing? I seen her in the park a few days ago and she is covered in tattoos (not that tattoos are bad) but they make you look deranged. I know this is freedom of speech. And, I have to disagree in a way that the money sure is not the Mayors alone it belongs to council.
Thank you for the knowledgeable advise.
MI MI MI
bob ware

New Haven, WV

#9 Aug 24, 2011
Chief I think you should ask for a raise. You are currently making about $20,000.00 less per year than that of a compliable position in other small towns in WVA. Mayor you should be ashamed for cheating this man out of his just rewards.
2012 who

Gallipolis, OH

#10 Aug 24, 2011
mr ware, wanting you to know that i started reading the topix site for the past few months especialy after some news articles ie the town. i was very supportive of you comments throughout most of the summer. You knew your viewpoint and wasn't afraid to express it. lately it seems your whole facus has changed. is it because you are running for mayor? you have really done flip flop, by starting your baby concerned citizens but their is already a concerned citizen group. Now instead of asking hard questions you seem to flow with mediocraity. so if voters are to vote for a change i wouldn't vote for you because of you written flagrant hyprocity, seen from your changing opinions.
CONCERNED

Ravenswood, WV

#11 Aug 24, 2011
2012 WHO: I have told Mr. Ware the same thing. BeWARE NOT is my slogan. Apparently he has been "taken" by the Chief and loves MS. LUCY.. I don't care. He is way too smart for Lucy council..she is running again.
Well, I guess the Chief's wife got a job with WORK FORCE,(State Job and The Mayor Knows them VERY WELL) but wonder if they are still paying for his family insurance which he is entitled to, but not added to his salary.
You know Bob Ware when Ravenswood Police Department was running great Chief Bill Sinnett was making $36,000.+ cost of his insurance.
Hesson was making less than Morrison but neither took their insurance and it added approximately 20,000/ year to their pay. Hesson was a super chief, knew the laws and quoted them without looking them up. It was time he left, but I respect him for what he knew and not what he allowed. The Golden Chief has no experience in being a leader..basically everyone in high school or even the state police had very little respect for him and make fun of him behind his box. And, here he is being Chief of Ravenswood Police Department. I have tried to keep up with the clearance of crime, but they have been short handed and we will ease up. However, when I was told that an Officer (high ranking) let a man lay in his room with his head split open, a deaf mute, and the officer gave him thumbs up and he returned the thumbs up...that officer got in his vehicle and up the road he went. Someone else called the police. Then it was put in the paper how someone was arrested by this officer and really it was the JCO Sheriff who arrested him..i wanted to throw up. I am proud of Deputy Burnem he seems to be doing a fantastic job for the JCO Sheriff's Office. Ptlm Micheal Cummings, Ripley PD, is doing a super job for Ripley PD. I am so happy they got out of the STINKIN PD before they get lied on too.

SO, Mr. Ware I hope that was a joke of asking for more money for the chief. There are maintenance men making $7.60-8.00 per hour. They do their jobs but just are not in the click.

Save your $50.00 fee for running for the Mayor. The Mayor is running from a good source and hot dog the fight will be on.....
bob ware

New Haven, WV

#12 Aug 24, 2011
Were all allowed to change our minds. Im not sure if this is a credit to my character or a blight on it, but Ive changed my mind about many varying topics over the past sometimes from one extreme to another. The challenge is to be able to realize this and push myself to be open minded enough and arrive at a place where the best decision is made.
I am flexable and adaptable. What more can you ask. I will listen to all sides, I am quite adapt at defending any side. Mine, yours,or theirs.
From what I have witnessed, I am the best qualified to run this city.
CONCERNED

Ravenswood, WV

#13 Aug 24, 2011
Mr. Ware, I am very sure you can run the city of Ravenswood, WV, but my point most of the people in this city want rid of Mayor Harbert, The Chief, The City/Treasure Clerk...not because of anything they have personally done, but the fact is they are taking this city for a ride. The Mayor can go and wiggle in to all these groups, but she must realize they know what she is capable of doing and I would consider her a politican and not an honest one. Please do not be blind sided, but I think you already have been.
I don't need anyone to judge me when I am wrong, I need someone to judge me when I am right. This people especially The Chief is not capable of doing this. For sure the Mayor isn't capable either.

Do you know what would happen if Bill Sinnett was the chief and an officer drove off and left a man laying there with his head split open? And an officer gave him a thumbs up not caring he was deaf? He would of put him on administrative leave until a complete investigation would have taken place. This chief didn't tell the entire story. Is not capable of making such a decision either. Only thing he is good for is spending money.
bob ware

New Haven, WV

#14 Aug 24, 2011
How do you decide what to believe? Friends tell you one thing, authorities say something else, and the evidence points in yet another direction. We are deluged by a constant flood of information from a wide variety of sources, we must evaluate and decide for ourselves what information is reliable and what is not. You have to decide what to believe, what to ignore, what to question, and what you don't know. It separates well-founded beliefs from assumptions, rumors, and myths. Don't be fooled; know how you know. I try not to judge. I do express my opinions.
CONCERNED

Ravenswood, WV

#15 Aug 24, 2011
You as mayor would do nothing until the final investigation had taken place.
*The officer would be put on administrative leave (paid until a decision)
*The Chief should contact a non partial group of officers (I would think out of the county) to investigate this.*They would investigate and interview witnesses.
*Come up with their decision.
*Then they would make a decision where the officer was right or wrong.

I think they have a group that does this.

The Mayor should keep their nose out of it. Let the Police Chief handle it. So what is the problem. The Mayor should not make decisions like and should not even know about it. Our Mayor now has to know everything. If she gets a complaint she should send it to Police Department and not concern herself with it. But she wont. That is why she pays this chief 51,000.00 and maybe more (not verified). Like Maintenance Gary Hunt should handle all his complaint but the mayor does and she generally agrees with the complaintant to their face and goes with the supervisor.

The Mayor should do what the Mayor does and not concern herself with any difficulties until the supervisors contact her or the council member in charge of the department does. She doesnt like for the council members contacted just her.

This is the way it ran before this Mayor Lucy become involved. So do you agree on this??
missedtheboat

Point Pleasant, WV

#16 Aug 24, 2011
Back to the topix in question, No glitch, just a computer operators error, which turned the whole system into a mass of mistakes which hasnt been corrected,city is making to much money from the mistakes and they dont want to give it back
CONCERNED

Ravenswood, WV

#17 Aug 24, 2011
Thank you so much. I knew it....
bob ware

New Haven, WV

#18 Aug 25, 2011
How do you decide what to believe? Friends tell you one thing, authorities say something else, and the evidence points in yet another direction. We are deluged by a constant flood of information from a wide variety of sources, we must evaluate and decide for ourselves what information is reliable and what is not. You have to decide what to believe, what to ignore, what to question, and what you don't know. It separates well-founded beliefs from assumptions, rumors, and myths. Don't be fooled; know how you know. I try not to judge I do express my opinions. But in the end, I stand true to myself
ONE MORE THING

Ravenswood, WV

#19 Aug 25, 2011
Honestly Mr. Ware that is a problem and I do understand, but also this administration is known for the cut throat antics that she has said and done to many projects and people. She will deny and deny and you have many people who are willing to stepforth and "TELL IT ALL".

But would you believe 4-5 people who are telling you what happened or the Mayor who will deny and deny. You have the city clerk treasure that claims to be very computer savvy. I do know who wrote the revealing answer and they wouldn't lie for anyone.

So you go and question who you believe and who you don't and sir they will eat you alive. The Mayor is a controlling she wants to know everything. She has to run the office and let the chosen few run their departments for her. She needs to keep her italian nose out of it. Things would run a lot better. She adores the Chief because he stands there and guards her. Hard to believe, he is very appreciative of her hiring him. Probably is going to worry about a job in June, 2012. I know the Clerk should be...because no one likes her they think she is dope.
change4rwood

Pikeville, KY

#20 Aug 25, 2011
bob ware wrote:
Chief I think you should ask for a raise. You are currently making about $20,000.00 less per year than that of a compliable position in other small towns in WVA. Mayor you should be ashamed for cheating this man out of his just rewards.
I have watched the flip flopping of you Bob and it clear that you would be just as bad as Lucy if put into office. Why would you support a man that would leave a badly beaten man there to die and then let one of his officer's get by with saying he wished the guy that did the beating had finished him off just becuase he was Mexican? Morrison is no chief and has made this town look like a joke. What kind of person hires an undercover officer and then goes and tells it in the paper? NOT a good idea, now the druggies are going to be looking for this guy, he has put his life in jeopardy by advertising his hiring.

Bob, you supporting Morrison shows your true colors and I hope everyone else sees you for what are. We do not need a mayor that supports Morrison or the admininistion of Lucy Harbart.

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