xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27780 Apr 15, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
It's really a personal responsibility issue. You're mewling that you don't want healthcare covering other people, but that it most decidedly should be extended to you at a price you deem suitable to cover the health concerns that have arisen out of your own bad habits.
It's that when you express a standard you expect others to hold themselves to, they'll think you a hypocrite when you explain why the same standards shouldn't be applied to yourself.
I've never had anything against people getting healthcare coverage, just don't take it from me.

You see, government doesn't have any money. They don't produce a product or sellable service. Therefore, if government gives you a loaf of bread, they have to take that bread away from somebody else, somebody else that earned that bread.

Socialism is about taking from producers and giving to the non-producers. So when the producers are robbed of what is rightly theirs, don't say "it's your responsibility" to pony up even more.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#27781 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I've never had anything against people getting healthcare coverage, just don't take it from me.
You see, government doesn't have any money. They don't produce a product or sellable service. Therefore, if government gives you a loaf of bread, they have to take that bread away from somebody else, somebody else that earned that bread.
Socialism is about taking from producers and giving to the non-producers. So when the producers are robbed of what is rightly theirs, don't say "it's your responsibility" to pony up even more.
You're aware that under systems like the NHS, paying for everyone has resulted in dramatically lower costs per capita and as a percentage of the GDP as well as lower costs per head for consumers of healthcare services?

That is to say, you're paying more to be sure that other people aren't being treated. And rather insistent that this continue, which would strike me as strange, had you not already presented yourself as someone for whom critical thinking and statistics would prove unnavigable.

But carry on with your strangely hypocritical complaints that your healthcare isn't set at the price point you would prefer, while staying equally shrill that you don't want a penny going to others.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27782 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What's next? Did you vote for McCain/ Romney too? ;-D
Ha haaaaa! OK, I had that one coming. Hey, no sh1t on that e-smoke thing. I can't say enough good things about it. I knew the first day it arrived that I was done smoking. It totally and successfully replaced cigarettes for me and I have smoked for a very long time. The first few brands my wife and I tried were inconsistent and difficult to tell when they were going to run out. With the tank system, you can see how much juice is in them and the things are super easy to fill. They easily pay for themselves in the first month. The two juices I like are Prime and Tribeca. They offer two battery sizes with the starter kit for the same price. Get the bigger battery. I rotate mine out every day and have never had a battery die on me. I would start with the 18 ml of nicotine to start out. I can tell you almost 100% that you will be pleasantly surprised if you invest in what I have described. It isn't just a quit smoking gimmick to my wife and I. We actually enjoy it. The main reason I keep nagging you about them is the unbelievable difference it has made in my health. I have been very specific on the brand because it will save you a lot of trial and error. Try it and if it doesn't work for you, we can blame Joe Biden and Sarah Palin for it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27783 Apr 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha haaaaa! OK, I had that one coming. Hey, no sh1t on that e-smoke thing. I can't say enough good things about it. I knew the first day it arrived that I was done smoking. It totally and successfully replaced cigarettes for me and I have smoked for a very long time. The first few brands my wife and I tried were inconsistent and difficult to tell when they were going to run out. With the tank system, you can see how much juice is in them and the things are super easy to fill. They easily pay for themselves in the first month. The two juices I like are Prime and Tribeca. They offer two battery sizes with the starter kit for the same price. Get the bigger battery. I rotate mine out every day and have never had a battery die on me. I would start with the 18 ml of nicotine to start out. I can tell you almost 100% that you will be pleasantly surprised if you invest in what I have described. It isn't just a quit smoking gimmick to my wife and I. We actually enjoy it. The main reason I keep nagging you about them is the unbelievable difference it has made in my health. I have been very specific on the brand because it will save you a lot of trial and error. Try it and if it doesn't work for you, we can blame Joe Biden and Sarah Palin for it.
I thought you seemed a little too enthused for just knowing somebody that had one. The truth is I thought you might have had investments in the company. LOL! I believe there is a little capitalist in all of us.

I will give it a try.

Nothing wrong or funny about honesty either. I guess that's why I'm the only truck driver/ landlord on Topix. To be honest, I think half of the critics here are or were smokers at one time. If not that, perhaps some other vice they are too proud to admit to. I've known very few people in my life that didn't have some kind of habit or hangup in their lives.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27784 Apr 17, 2014
Cooking the books:

Census Survey Revisions Mask Health Law Effects
By ROBERT PEARAPRIL 15, 2014

WASHINGTON — The Census Bureau, the authoritative source of health insurance data for more than three decades, is changing its annual survey so thoroughly that it will be difficult to measure the effects of President Obama’s health care law in the next report, due this fall, census officials said.

The changes are intended to improve the accuracy of the survey, being conducted this month in interviews with tens of thousands of households around the country. But the new questions are so different that the findings will not be comparable, the officials said.

An internal Census Bureau document said that the new questionnaire included a “total revision to health insurance questions” and, in a test last year, produced lower estimates of the uninsured. Thus, officials said, it will be difficult to say how much of any change is attributable to the Affordable Care Act and how much to the use of a new survey instrument.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/politics...

NOTE: Not Fox, Beck, Limbaugh or Hannity. The New York Times reporting.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#27785 Apr 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
Cooking the books:
Census Survey Revisions Mask Health Law Effects
The timing is unfortunate. But, according to the article, these changes have been in the works for 10 years and "...the decision to make fundamental changes in the survey was driven by technical experts at the Census Bureau, and members of Congress have not focused on it or suggested political motives." Still, it looks bad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/politics...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27786 Apr 18, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The timing is unfortunate. But, according to the article, these changes have been in the works for 10 years and "...the decision to make fundamental changes in the survey was driven by technical experts at the Census Bureau, and members of Congress have not focused on it or suggested political motives." Still, it looks bad.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/politics...
That would be fine except for the fact that they tried a test-run last year and found it gave a desired outcome.

With all these numbers the White House is throwing around about Commie Care, it's met with great suspicion since it's difficult to be accurate. I would think that if they were so confident about their numbers, they would prefer the same Census questions that they used to determine the amount of uninsured Americans the last three decades.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#27788 Apr 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be fine except for the fact that they tried a test-run last year and found it gave a desired outcome.
With all these numbers the White House is throwing around about Commie Care, it's met with great suspicion since it's difficult to be accurate. I would think that if they were so confident about their numbers, they would prefer the same Census questions that they used to determine the amount of uninsured Americans the last three decades.
You're still pathetic, always grasping at straws.
ha ha

United States

#27789 Apr 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>Ha haaaaa! OK, I had that one coming. Hey, no sh1t on that e-smoke thing. I can't say enough good things about it. I knew the first day it arrived that I was done smoking. It totally and successfully replaced cigarettes for me and I have smoked for a very long time. The first few brands my wife and I tried were inconsistent and difficult to tell when they were going to run out. With the tank system, you can see how much juice is in them and the things are super easy to fill. They easily pay for themselves in the first month. The two juices I like are Prime and Tribeca. They offer two battery sizes with the starter kit for the same price. Get the bigger battery. I rotate mine out every day and have never had a battery die on me. I would start with the 18 ml of nicotine to start out. I can tell you almost 100% that you will be pleasantly surprised if you invest in what I have described. It isn't just a quit smoking gimmick to my wife and I. We actually enjoy it. The main reason I keep nagging you about them is the unbelievable difference it has made in my health. I have been very specific on the brand because it will save you a lot of trial and error. Try it and if it doesn't work for you, we can blame Joe Biden and Sarah Palin for it.
LOL! Too funny! Joe Biden very possibly could be at fault somehow?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27790 Apr 18, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You're still pathetic, always grasping at straws.
And you're still the Boy Toy troll here.
ha ha

Hollywood, FL

#27791 Apr 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>And you're still the Boy Toy troll here.
Not my kinda boy toy :-P
brody fink

Logan, OH

#27794 Apr 21, 2014
yvoone moore a retired bus driver at meigs got hit by a car in 2010 in hit a pole last year
Tim W Steinhelfer

Bellefontaine, OH

#27795 Apr 22, 2014
Fitzgerald.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#27796 Apr 22, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You're still pathetic, always grasping at straws.
that is funny........a useless turd calling someone pathetic.

grasping at straws explains the last 5 1/2 years.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#27797 Apr 22, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
that is funny........a useless turd calling someone pathetic.
grasping at straws explains the last 5 1/2 years.
I bet it killed you to stay off of here during that little fantasy trip you claimed to take. How was the parking lot marlin fishing in Canton? I suppose all you caught was more roosterfish again.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#27798 Apr 22, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I bet it killed you to stay off of here during that little fantasy trip you claimed to take. How was the parking lot marlin fishing in Canton? I suppose all you caught was more roosterfish again.
what ever you troll.

who cares what scum like you fantasize about.

you would even fail as a ladyboy in Thailand.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#27799 Apr 22, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I bet it killed you to stay off of here during that little fantasy trip you claimed to take. How was the parking lot marlin fishing in Canton? I suppose all you caught was more roosterfish again.
you trolls are quite boring, and I will be busy entertaining customers this summer on Lake Erie.

Prior to the elections I will be back to hear you cry.

You are an epic failure, and a hoot to laugh at.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27800 Apr 22, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
you trolls are quite boring, and I will be busy entertaining customers this summer on Lake Erie.
Prior to the elections I will be back to hear you cry.
You are an epic failure, and a hoot to laugh at.
Speaking of epic failures, we are as frightened as any of your past predictions will allow.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#27801 Apr 22, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of epic failures, we are as frightened as any of your past predictions will allow.
the north pole is melting to historic levels !!!!!!!!!!

it takes only 10 hours to fly over it in a 777 jet. You should fear the melt you idiot.

epic failure is robust economy to you.

your predictions are fantasy tales, and reality is fantasy to you.

laughing stock is printed upon your jersey.

the town dimwit.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#27802 Apr 22, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of epic failures, we are as frightened as any of your past predictions will allow.
How much you wanna' bet that he had to spend 21 days in the pokey for stealing a box of Twinkies.

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