Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#22828 Dec 12, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
Obamacare has many problems, and so does health insurance.
Neither one being FREE another problem for some.
I thought this was a pretty thoughtful post from you. The original big healthcare giveaway happened during the Reagan years. At that time, hospital emergency rooms would turn away folks that could not pay. Reagan signed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act in 1986, which said that emergency rooms had to accept everyone, regardless of their ability to pay (or their immigration status.) This was done following multiple stories of folks dying after being turned away from emergency treatment. It seemed like a humanitarian response at the time, but it was actually the start of an incredibly inefficient healthcare system. You would only be covered for emergency treatment, not preventive care.(Which meant that poor folks waited until their chronic, treatable conditions were emergencies.) And the service could only take place in emergency rooms, which is our most expensive healthcare option.

This system costs every family more than $1000/year. Obamacare will get these folks into the healthcare system at an early stage of disease, when treatment is much more affordable. And they will be treated in settings that are far less expensive than emergency rooms. And it puts the burden back onto the individual, instead of forcing the rest of us to pay for it.

"According to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, 55% of U.S. emergency care now goes uncompensated. When medical bills go unpaid, health care providers must either shift the costs onto those who can pay or go uncompensated. In the first decade of EMTALA, such cost-shifting amounted to a hidden tax levied by providers. For example, it has been estimated that this cost shifting amounted to $455 per individual or $1,186 per family in California each year."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medica...
Canton

Canton, OH

#22829 Dec 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What secret? Anybody that was around during that time knew the Republicans took leadership of the Congress after the mention of HillaryCare. Bill presided under a Republican Congress for most of his two terms. Unlike this big-eared buffoon, he actually worked with the Republicans in Congress.
Right. We all can see how effective a Republican Congress can be. Except of course for the historical record they set for being the most ineffective Congress ever. Yah...they got the plan. Keep telling yourself that.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22830 Dec 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Good. We could use some warming up around here. 18 degrees was the high today. It's normal is 39. We won't be anywhere near that for at least another week.
Damn it's cold. Burrr.
What? Wintertime and it's cold? Well the overwhelming majority of climate scientists just got shown up by a truck driver. Hoot-in-nanny! That is, if you are chimp like in your intelligence and throw out centuries of collective scientific climate expert studies because it's cold in Ohio in December. Thank God in the real world we listen to the experts or we'd all be goons of the oil industry like you.

You know, the "climate change doesn't exist"..."OK, it exists but it's not man-made"..."Ok It's definitely man-made but nothing can be done about it"...and soon to be "It's God's punishment on the GAYS!!!" ...Koch Brother goon squad you march for.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22831 Dec 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, that's your problem. You don't want to learn anything. You just want to repeat talking points spoon fed to you by the leftist politicians. And BTW, since you're not in the mood (as usual) to learn something new, the article sites the US Census as their source.
Let's ask Warren Buffett how he feels about the top 1% you somehow think have your best interests in mind. I don't need any "Leftists" telling me anything. I learned everything I know about the GOP from the GOP> Now go read your Tea Bagger email for the next thing you will suddenly feel outraged about.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#22832 Dec 12, 2013
Wuth all this here global warmin I think we need your money to try to make it stop!!!!

Needin all yer money! Send it on in!!! Our right to spend your money supercedes your right to exist!!!
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#22833 Dec 13, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.....toilet paper & crayons is your speed.
carry on thy petulant child.
Sorry, but I outgrew Tonka Toy pickup trucks and Matchbox racecars in the sandbox decades ago.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#22834 Dec 13, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Without looking at your link, seeing anyone can Google your usual source of "facts", The Heritage Foundation, I'd say you are probably posting a map of all the rightwing Bible voters right now. You know, those gun hoarding kooks who spit in the face of what this country was founded upon.
wrong...you meant spit in the face of the progressives who demand we change.

This country was formed on individualism, not special interest groups.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#22835 Dec 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The whole idea of this law was to make more people government dependent. The more government dependent people, the more likely Democrat voters.
What we will see about this Communist plan is that it's intended to destroy private healthcare so there's nothing to go back to when this continues to be an absolute failure. it will be impossible to rebuild the free market. Then we are all trapped--trapped by the evils of liberalism.
It's already estimated that by January 1st, we will have more non-insured people than before Commie Care went into swing. So what was accomplished? You don't accomplish anything by solving one problem and putting ten different problems in it's place. All you can do with that strategy is make things worse all over.
Saw this article in the Montana Standard. That deep red state that refused to set up their own exchange about a guy, married with 1 child new plan under the Federal Exchange. His previous BC-BS plan cost $11,600 a year that had doubled in price the past 4 years. It had a $10,000 deductible.
His new policy, also with BC-BS is about $2,400 with a $12,000 deductible. Even though his deductible went up $2,000, he's saving $9,200 a year on premiums. That's with no subsidy, as he doesn't qualify for any. You'll never see an article about things like that on Fux News, where I saw one of their talking bimbos state that atheists do not have any rights in this country, only the bible thumper's do. The Constitution only applies to them. Yep, that's fair and balanced.
carl

Minford, OH

#22836 Dec 13, 2013
not yet wrote:
this country hasnt had enough time off to have republicans back in power.
agree

Since: Aug 12

United States

#22837 Dec 13, 2013
Biggest lie award to Caesar Obamus!

Congrats! Its official!

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/12/12/congrat...
Canton

Canton, OH

#22838 Dec 13, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Wuth all this here global warmin I think we need your money to try to make it stop!!!!
Needin all yer money! Send it on in!!! Our right to spend your money supercedes your right to exist!!!
Oopsie...it's FACT time...

Last year, ExxonMobil, one of the world’s most profitable companies, earned $1,300 in profits per second

PER SECOND!
Canton

Canton, OH

#22839 Dec 13, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
wrong...you meant spit in the face of the progressives who demand we change.
This country was formed on individualism, not special interest groups.
You can try to rewrite history all you want. We'll let the 6 figures your wife makes a year judge how much we believe coming out of your mouth.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#22840 Dec 13, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Oopsie...it's FACT time...
Last year, ExxonMobil, one of the world’s most profitable companies, earned $1,300 in profits per second
PER SECOND!
You really wanna impress people here? You'd find out how much expense they had per second.

How many high paying jobs did they create for Americans?
Canton

Canton, OH

#22841 Dec 13, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
You really wanna impress people here? You'd find out how much expense they had per second.
How many high paying jobs did they create for Americans?
Who cares if I "impress" a bunch of tax dodging, free loading trust fund babies? Those are called facts, clown. Give them a try some time. Exxon doesn't consider themselves an American company, although I'm sure that when GW Bush deregulated them, they might have saved a penny or two.

Besides, who has time for your kookie flat earth tinfoil hat visions when we have John Boehner and the GOP on television right this minute, telling the oil billionaire sponsored Tea Party to f@ck off...or what I like to call, precious moments. Now excuse me while I join the whole country in laughing in your Tea Bagging treasonous faces.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22842 Dec 13, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
You really wanna impress people here? You'd find out how much expense they had per second.
How many high paying jobs did they create for Americans?
Or better yet, let's compare how much Al Gore makes a second, to how much Exxon Mobile makes per second. Now wipe that crude oil from around your greedy mouth, son. You're making the founders of this nation's skin crawl.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#22843 Dec 13, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Or better yet, let's compare how much Al Gore makes a second, to how much Exxon Mobile makes per second. Now wipe that crude oil from around your greedy mouth, son. You're making the founders of this nation's skin crawl.
the Liberal Left is making the founders of this nation's skin crawl.
Realty Speaks

Columbus, OH

#22844 Dec 13, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Or better yet, let's compare how much Al Gore makes a second, to how much Exxon Mobile makes per second. Now wipe that crude oil from around your greedy mouth, son. You're making the founders of this nation's skin crawl.
why are you comparing apples to air craft carriers?

Al gore was born into the lucky sperm club, and made a billion dollars on a global scam.
All Gore farted, and the liberal left paid him a billion dollars for it.

you gladly pull to the pump to fill your tank, and provide profit to Exxon

Or do you walk when it is 9 degrees outside?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22845 Dec 13, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Saw this article in the Montana Standard. That deep red state that refused to set up their own exchange about a guy, married with 1 child new plan under the Federal Exchange. His previous BC-BS plan cost $11,600 a year that had doubled in price the past 4 years. It had a $10,000 deductible.
His new policy, also with BC-BS is about $2,400 with a $12,000 deductible. Even though his deductible went up $2,000, he's saving $9,200 a year on premiums. That's with no subsidy, as he doesn't qualify for any. You'll never see an article about things like that on Fux News, where I saw one of their talking bimbos state that atheists do not have any rights in this country, only the bible thumper's do. The Constitution only applies to them. Yep, that's fair and balanced.
Sounds like something out of context. But by all means, post the link to the episode where somebody said atheists have no rights.

I never said every single person in this country is getting screwed with Commie Care. I said most are. Of course there will be some people who make out. But for every one that does make out, ten lose.

It was not long ago where I posted a personal story of this. Thanks to Commie Care, my employers insurance went up so high that we now have coverage just as bad as Commie Care plans. When discussing this issue with one of my tenants, she praised Commie Care because she has medical coverage.

My tenant works at Pizza Hut. She doesn't look for better work because she smokes pot and most better jobs drug test. So the bottom line is I get next to nothing for healthcare coverage so my pot smoking part-time working tenant can have health insurance, and probably better insurance than I have.

Doing some research about your story in Montana, subsides are given to single people making up to $45,000 and a family of four making up to $94,000. I couldn't find the calculations of a family of three, but we can both imagine what kind of income this family of three had in order not to be qualified for any kind of subsidy.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22846 Dec 13, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's ask Warren Buffett how he feels about the top 1% you somehow think have your best interests in mind. I don't need any "Leftists" telling me anything. I learned everything I know about the GOP from the GOP> Now go read your Tea Bagger email for the next thing you will suddenly feel outraged about.
Warren Buffett? I'll get to that in a moment. First our weather update:

Today we had partly sunny skies with a high temperature of 29 degrees--10 degrees below our normal for this day, and far from our record high of 65 degrees set back in 1901.

Okay. Now where were we? Oh yes!

Warren Buffett could care less about what the taxation is because he's out of paying taxes. He has little taxable income and wants to stay on top of that ladder. It would be like me supporting our city taxing people that buy large houses. Sure I might be for that if I already own my large house.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22847 Dec 13, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. We all can see how effective a Republican Congress can be. Except of course for the historical record they set for being the most ineffective Congress ever. Yah...they got the plan. Keep telling yourself that.
Do you ever think about your comments "before" you post them?

The most ineffective Congress? Now why don't you tell me what made them so ineffective? I'll give you a hint: government shutdown.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Ravenna Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Brimfield Chief Oliver's rise to - Internet Sen... Sun Mr Smith 1
the bunny man on hoarders (Jan '11) Sat Really 8
Stow high teacher mr ereth ? (May '12) Jan 20 rob 4
Report: Brimfield Police Chief David Oliver to ... Jan 17 Inspector hopalon... 1
Letter accuses retiring Brimfield police chief ... Jan 16 Inspector humpee ... 1
Looking for Lorie (Jun '10) Jan 12 darxstar 18
Investigators link Tallmadge man's DNA to mask ... Jan 7 lil ty 2
Ravenna Dating
Find my Match
More from around the web

Ravenna People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]

NFL Latest News

Updated 8:43 am PST

NFL 8:43AM
Jimmy Haslam: Browns have to get a QB in 2015
Bleacher Report 9:17 AM
Jimmy Haslam Speaks on Browns' 2015 QB Situation
Bleacher Report12:23 PM
Manziel's Teammates Discuss QB's Rookie Season
Yahoo! Sports12:24 PM
Report: Cleveland Browns 'wrecked' by Johnny Manziel's rookie season
NBC Sports12:46 PM
Teammate: Manziel was a "100 percent joke" as a rookie