Source: Slain Realtor Arranged Land C...

Source: Slain Realtor Arranged Land Contract for Accused Killer

There are 16 comments on the WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story from Sep 24, 2010, titled Source: Slain Realtor Arranged Land Contract for Accused Killer. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

The Portage County real estate agent who shot to death inside a vacant house in Twin Lakes on Monday, helped arrange a land contract in 2003 for the family of his accused killer, Fox 8 News reports.

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Bucks02

Independence, OH

#1 Sep 24, 2010
and the charges were Agg assault WITH A FIREARM, and also criminal mischief, aka vandalism........but the florida criminal justice system come through again......maybe someone should call the Broward County State Attorney's Office and ask them what they think about their decision to drop charges now........
Jennifer-Garfiel d Heights

Northfield, OH

#2 Sep 24, 2010
this is a sad story, but the economy is just so bad that people resort to all kinds of crazy stuff due to lose.
upset

Mount Gilead, OH

#3 Sep 24, 2010
Jennifer-Garfield Heights wrote:
this is a sad story, but the economy is just so bad that people resort to all kinds of crazy stuff due to lose.
There are many sad stories out here, but that gives no one the right to take another's life.
TeacherfromOhio

Strongsville, OH

#4 Sep 24, 2010
We don't know if this was a sad case or not. This murderer could have just as easily been someone who was irresponsible and didn't manage his money well. I hope he gets the death penalty or shoots himself so that we, the taxpayers, don't have to spend a bunch of money on a trial.
Kelly

Akron, OH

#5 Sep 24, 2010
They better catch this S.O.B. fast. I hope he gets the death penatly. He took a great person out of this world. Andy is in heaven. However this guy will rot in hell for eternity
Anonymous

United States

#6 Sep 24, 2010
There are a lot of real estate agents who better learn from this.
Some of them got people into homes they knew they couldn't afford and just called it business.
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
I'm not saying this guy did anything illegal... but losing a house and $80,000.00 is also something else that went seriously wrong in someone else's life as well.
100 Percent Black Man

Mansfield, OH

#7 Sep 24, 2010
Jennifer-Garfield Heights wrote:
this is a sad story, but the economy is just so bad that people resort to all kinds of crazy stuff due to lose.
Amazing how some of you show so much sympathy to white criminals and none to black; others who comment on every thread where the perpetrater is black never comment at all when the thug is white. This man was wrong period! What he did has put fear in real estate agents all over.
Seriously

Westlake, OH

#8 Sep 25, 2010
Strap On wrote:
There are a lot of real estate agents who better learn from this.
Some of them got people into homes they knew they couldn't afford and just called it business.
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
I'm not saying this guy did anything illegal... but losing a house and $80,000.00 is also something else that went seriously wrong in someone else's life as well.
So ... you are saying that the individuals -- the actual buyers of a home -- are too stupid to put together a monthly budget to figure out if THEY can actually afford the house they are purchasing or not?? Do you share all your financial income and debts to the realtor who is showing homes (W-2s, paystubs, bank account statement)?? Or do you share that information with your lender who is actually loaning you the money to purchase the home?? Get a clue!! Yes, some people should not have been put in some loans - yes, some people are in financial trouble due to job loss, economy, medical, divorce. I am so sick of people not taking responsibility for their own actions! Many people of all classes have lost value in their properties. It does not give ANYONE the right to take the life of another!
donna

Uniontown, OH

#9 Sep 25, 2010
Its not the realtors fault that people do not disclose their financial situations. Land contracts are a risk, but usually people get into them don't have any other choice. You put down a large amount of cash towards the purchase of the home, make payments to the owner for a period of time until your credit score gets high enough for you to make the actual purchase....and hope that the seller is actually making the mortgage payments while this is going on. Its a risk.
Don

Hartville, OH

#10 Sep 25, 2010
There might be a lot more to this case than meets the eye.
My View

Cleveland, OH

#11 Sep 25, 2010
Jennifer-Garfield Heights wrote:
this is a sad story, but the economy is just so bad that people resort to all kinds of crazy stuff due to lose.
I don't understand your point. What has the economy have to do with murder? Times are tough for most people, but they don't commit murder to solve their problems. That is unless you are a psychopathic predator like this pos! The death penalty was designed exactly for cases like this.
mapleman

Bedford, OH

#12 Sep 25, 2010
donna wrote:
Its not the realtors fault that people do not disclose their financial situations. Land contracts are a risk, but usually people get into them don't have any other choice. You put down a large amount of cash towards the purchase of the home, make payments to the owner for a period of time until your credit score gets high enough for you to make the actual purchase....and hope that the seller is actually making the mortgage payments while this is going on. Its a risk.
Ironically there was just a write up about this in some paper. I wonder if the agent warned him of the great risk involved. The way the write up showed it, the land contracts usually screw the buyer.

No excuse for the murder, but some people were pushing people into homes they couldn't afford just to make a quick buck. Problem after you sign on the dotted line? Oh well, they'll act like they don't even know you.
Really

Westlake, OH

#13 Sep 25, 2010
Strap On wrote:
There are a lot of real estate agents who better learn from this.
Some of them got people into homes they knew they couldn't afford and just called it business.
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
I'm not saying this guy did anything illegal... but losing a house and $80,000.00 is also something else that went seriously wrong in someone else's life as well.
This is a stupid comment to put it nicely. Realtors do not force people into contracts. Realtors only facilitate transactions between a buyer and a seller. Lenders approve loans - not realtors. This particular case was a seller financed transaction. The Seller trusted the buyer with his own property- his big investment and the buyer failed to perform leaving the Seller with no other option than to foreclose 5 years later. They went to a court of law and the buyer lost his case. Real Estate Agents can't foresee the future- if a buyer buys a home, how is a real estate agent supposed to know they'd end up in foreclosure five years after they sign a contract. Many, many people have lost their jobs or gotten in over their heads resulting in foreclosure and none of them killed their real estate agent.
IM SHOCKED

Lexington, KY

#14 Sep 26, 2010
I'm shocked to read this original post that blames the Realtors, just shocked! It just goes to show the stupidity of the postor. I think you give WAY to much credit to the Realtor, our job is not to determine whether or not one should have the dream of homeownership, instead it's our constitutional right, dumb ass! There are many of different layers or hoops that a buyer has to go through to buy a home and that picture can change the day after the closing - loss of job, loss of life of a spouse, incapacitation, DECAPATATION which may have happened to you, so many things....but to blame it on the Realtors is just plain outlandish!RIP ANDY
Lynn

Olmsted Falls, OH

#15 Sep 27, 2010
Strap On wrote:
There are a lot of real estate agents who better learn from this.
Some of them got people into homes they knew they couldn't afford and just called it business.
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
I'm not saying this guy did anything illegal... but losing a house and $80,000.00 is also something else that went seriously wrong in someone else's life as well.
I am sadden to hear that you blame the AGENT for his undoing! I am sure that Andy did not go up to this man and say "Hey Why not buy this house as a land contract? Then let it go into foreclosure!" Nor did Andy have a gun to the mans head to sign on the dotted line. I am tired of people blaming everyone one else for their miss fortune. People every day go in to foreclosure for one reason or another, loss of job, medical bills, divorce, what ever the case. It is not the fault of the Agent who helped them purchase the home. It is the fault of Greedy Government, Politicians, and Business people who got us into this mess. Do you blame Beer Companies for DUI's too rather then the person drinking the beer then driving?
Lynn

Olmsted Falls, OH

#16 Sep 27, 2010
mapleman wrote:
<quoted text>
Ironically there was just a write up about this in some paper. I wonder if the agent warned him of the great risk involved. The way the write up showed it, the land contracts usually screw the buyer.
No excuse for the murder, but some people were pushing people into homes they couldn't afford just to make a quick buck. Problem after you sign on the dotted line? Oh well, they'll act like they don't even know you.
Again... "Push People in to a contract?" How stupid is that quote? No one has a gun to your head, you can walk away at anytime. 100% Buyers come to agents to purchase a home. Agents do not just go to up to people and say "sign this"

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