Ravenna man killed in crash

Ravenna man killed in crash

There are 53 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Jul 16, 2008, titled Ravenna man killed in crash. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

The Ravenna post of the State Highway Patrol said Gary Cline of Newton Falls Road was driving his motorcycle west on the Route 5 bypass while another driver was northbound in a Chevy Blazer.

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Akron, OH

#1 Jul 16, 2008
Why have no charges been filed? This is yet another middle-age yuppie, more than likely chatting work on her cell phone on her way to work while sipping a starbucks and fiddling with papers while going in excess of 20mph over the posted speed limit. After all, if she has an accident she'll be ok. She's in her tank. Who cares about the other guy. I see it every day commuting on SR8 from Akron to Macedonia. Something needs to be done about these people.

My prayers go out to the family of Mr. Cline. Proof positive that when you're on a bike, you have to worry about what others are doing more than what you're doing.
mike

Pittsburgh, PA

#2 Jul 16, 2008
why bring up the no helmet just the other day same road the mention of no helmet when clearly the other driver is at fault when is this world going to get it through there thick heads 99 percent of the time the biker is not at fault.
Thinker

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Jul 16, 2008
While I share your prayers for the family, don't be so quick to put all the blame in one place. This is yet another person, more than likely thinking they were invinsible while zipping around on their motorcycle, did not realize the danger of having an exposed head/skull/brain that could easily be smashed with minimal contact with concrete.

Just because the law doesn't require it doesn't mean it isn't a good idea.
Question is a dik

Strongsville, OH

#4 Jul 16, 2008
Question wrote:
Why have no charges been filed? This is yet another middle-age yuppie, more than likely chatting work on her cell phone on her way to work while sipping a starbucks and fiddling with papers while going in excess of 20mph over the posted speed limit. After all, if she has an accident she'll be ok. She's in her tank. Who cares about the other guy. I see it every day commuting on SR8 from Akron to Macedonia. Something needs to be done about these people.
My prayers go out to the family of Mr. Cline. Proof positive that when you're on a bike, you have to worry about what others are doing more than what you're doing.
Hey, Dik. You don't know what happened. Maybe there is a reason no charges were filed. Here is my take and only a theory. I am probably wrong, but at least you need to think about the other alternative. The biker was traveling in a high rate of speed like so many of the bikers do. The lady looked both ways and by the time she pulled out the biker came flying down the road and she didn't see him. I see this weekly on route 8 and 76 in Akron. These bikers fly by you doing 100 mph. Weave in and out of traffic. Many times I have looked into my side mirror and didn't see anything and then all of a sudden some dik on a bike comes out of nowhere and psses doing 100 mph. I am very sorry about this tragic accident. I hope the investigation determines who was at fault. If it was the driver of the car, then we will soon find out about her cell phone use. She should be jailed if its her fault. I suspect otherwise.
Alex P

Cincinnati, OH

#5 Jul 16, 2008
Question wrote:
Why have no charges been filed? This is yet another middle-age yuppie, more than likely chatting work on her cell phone on her way to work while sipping a starbucks and fiddling with papers while going in excess of 20mph over the posted speed limit. After all, if she has an accident she'll be ok. She's in her tank. Who cares about the other guy. I see it every day commuting on SR8 from Akron to Macedonia. Something needs to be done about these people.
My prayers go out to the family of Mr. Cline. Proof positive that whe you're on a bike, you have to worry about what others are doing more than what you're doing.
A person who exercises the same amount of care that a reasonably prudent would take in the same circumstances cannot always see motorcyclists on the road.
For example: Bright sunlight, glares, and reflections from other vehicles sometimes make a motorcyclist difficult to see.
I think the question of whether a driver breaches his duty of care to a motorcyclist is a fact-specific inquiry.
So try to reserve judgment against the driver.
Try It Again

Akron, OH

#6 Jul 16, 2008
Attention: Helmet Law needed for Ohio.

This man might be alive now if he was wearing a helmet. RIP for not wearing one.

I think the worst thing I am seeing now on the freeways around Akron more and more by the motorcyclers is all the trick riders who are doing wheelees, standing on their seats, going in and out of traffic, etc. while going down the freeway at 70 or more mph. They are asking to RIP.

“Er...Protector of Free Speech?”

Since: Mar 08

The AKR

#7 Jul 16, 2008
Yet another uninformative story by ABJ. The deceased was going West and she was going North. Any stop or yield signs, traffic lights??? Who did wrong?

Knucklehead in Post #1 claims the woman was in a tank (yeah, I know SUV). True? False?

A 5-minute phone call to RPD could have answered all this, but apparently, never took place.

Hmmmmm, wonderin' iffin' ABJ isn't gettin' kickbacks from TOPIX for "# of posts"?
POTUS

AOL

#8 Jul 16, 2008
Question wrote:
Why have no charges been filed? This is yet another middle-age yuppie, more than likely chatting work on her cell phone on her way to work while sipping a starbucks and fiddling with papers while going in excess of 20mph over the posted speed limit. After all, if she has an accident she'll be ok. She's in her tank. Who cares about the other guy. I see it every day commuting on SR8 from Akron to Macedonia. Something needs to be done about these people.
My prayers go out to the family of Mr. Cline. Proof positive that when you're on a bike, you have to worry about what others are doing more than what you're doing.
No charges files, as of yet. One you want to charge a person with a serious crime then you must be sure you have all your ducks counted and in order before you put them in the pond.
POTUS

AOL

#9 Jul 16, 2008
Question is a dik wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Dik. You don't know what happened. Maybe there is a reason no charges were filed. Here is my take and only a theory. I am probably wrong, but at least you need to think about the other alternative. The biker was traveling in a high rate of speed like so many of the bikers do. The lady looked both ways and by the time she pulled out the biker came flying down the road and she didn't see him. I see this weekly on route 8 and 76 in Akron. These bikers fly by you doing 100 mph. Weave in and out of traffic. Many times I have looked into my side mirror and didn't see anything and then all of a sudden some dik on a bike comes out of nowhere and psses doing 100 mph. I am very sorry about this tragic accident. I hope the investigation determines who was at fault. If it was the driver of the car, then we will soon find out about her cell phone use. She should be jailed if its her fault. I suspect otherwise.
Sounds like you have taken the position of. If you seen one you have seen them all. But not all bikers are the same. Some are just hard working people trying to save on gas and other reasons. So how about letting the OSP investigate this one and do what has to be done.

Since: Jun 08

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#10 Jul 16, 2008
mike wrote:
why bring up the no helmet just the other day same road the mention of no helmet when clearly the other driver is at fault when is this world going to get it through there thick heads 99 percent of the time the biker is not at fault.
I've consistently complained about the same thing for years. When a person doesn't wear a seatbelt or helmet and dies, the media generally reports it. If a person wears their seatbelt or helmet and dies, they usually don't report it.
The news media seems to have a clear and consistent bias and agenda when it comes to "safety" gear.
Nifong

New Philadelphia, OH

#11 Jul 16, 2008
mike wrote:
why bring up the no helmet just the other day same road the mention of no helmet when clearly the other driver is at fault when is this world going to get it through there thick heads 99 percent of the time the biker is not at fault.
99%? Hmmm...probably closer to 50/50...to be fair.
Christine

Mansfield, OH

#12 Jul 16, 2008
Better be safe than sorry and wear the safety gear. They call motorcycle riders "organ donors" for a reason. My family and friends ride bikes but I don't believe they are safe; no one has died but some were severely injured.

RIP Gary, condolences to the family.
Alexandra

Wooster, OH

#13 Jul 16, 2008
What do you mean, helmet laws are needed? First people whine about the government being too intrusive, then they whine that the government's not intruding.

I'm against laws requiring helmets or seat belts. It should be voluntary--though I would hope that parents at least buckle their children in. I buckle up because I feel it's safer, and I make sure my son is buckled up in his booster seat.
Alexandra

Wooster, OH

#14 Jul 16, 2008
BTW every motorcycle I've seen in operation has its headlight on. Thing about blinds you. So I think the driver could have seen him...unless she was on the phone.
Alexandra

Wooster, OH

#15 Jul 16, 2008
Looked up my Google Earth map. Route 5 is a 4-lane divided highway. New Milford Road is a 2-lane road, looks like there are stop signs for traffic on New Milford.

I wonder if the SUV driver tried to zip across Route 5 or if she yielded after crossing the eastbound lanes, then pulled out...?
Cinda

AOL

#16 Jul 16, 2008
My father died 60 years ago next month the same way. He was on his way to pass out cigars to celebrate my birth that very day when a Packard passed a car while coming down a hill. He hit my father head-on. No, my dad wasn't wearing a helmet, but regardless of who was at fault, I have lived for 59 years wondering what it would have been like to grow up with him in my life. I worked with Mr. Cline and I grieve for his loved ones. Motorcycles are no match for full-sized vehicles. I don't know who is at fault or why, but I'm devastated by the loss of someone enjoying his day in the sun. May God bless all involved.
long time rider

Kent, OH

#18 Jul 16, 2008
how many bikers do you see,on the road,doing makeup,phone calls,reading the paper,or not paying attention to where they are going?i,d say 98% riders dont ride wheelies or do 100miles an hour on our roads.you hit a bike,if its your fault,pay out the ass like everyone else
A Couple Comments

Louisville, OH

#19 Jul 16, 2008
POTUS wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like you have taken the position of. If you seen one you have seen them all. But not all bikers are the same. Some are just hard working people trying to save on gas and other reasons. So how about letting the OSP investigate this one and do what has to be done.
I too have seen the "stunt riders" around, but I am on the road for my job everyday and more and more people are riding motorcycles to work to save on gas. Many I have seen lately are wearing helmets (many not), and driving in a safe manner.

By the same token, 5 times today I watched people blatently go through stale red lights. Two were driving SUV's, and on hand held cell phones (one male, one female); Another was a delivery truck, driver also on his hand held cell phone while he was making a turn up a hill. He did not even slow down, and my light had been green for about 3o seconds; The other 2 were car loads of teenagers traveling together. One group of kids was standing out the sun roof yelling and waving at the car behind them.

A lot of drivers are focused on so many other things that they aren't focused on the task of driving. Not all accidents can be avoided, but if your focus is something else, and you don't obey the rules of the road, you are a danger to yourself and others.

The really sad thing is, that today I was in a line of traffic that was stopped for 5 minutes while a line of geese crossed Fairchild, but some of those same cars went left of center into oncoming traffic to go around kids on bikes, and tree trimming truck instead of waiting. We protect the animals, but not human life.
nhres

Kent, OH

#20 Jul 16, 2008
i am a rider and always get a little skittish when i hear about these wrecks. especially when they take lives. it's unfortunate. yes we are hard to see sometimes, even with our headlight on which is mandatory by the way. the thing that baffles me is why, why, why is it so uncool for harley riders to forgo any type of head protection? a friend of mine got his license, bought a harley and could barely wait out his first year so he could ditch the lid and be like all the other harley riders out there. it amazes me. i ride a sport bike and like most of us out there, ride geared up. i can't speak for the ones with a deathwish doing the wheelies down I77, they are a different breed.
Dave S

Tulsa, OK

#21 Jul 16, 2008
This man was a very dedicated father,hard worker & co-worker, let's all show due respect for him. He was not a reckless person & had a little boy waiting that day for his father to come home & celebrate his 4th birthday with him. He will surely be missed and I would hope that any good people out there would contact Kent State C.E.& O to ask about what they could do to help this family out. God Bless and be with his wife,daughter & son in thier time of need.

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