Parents suing Richlands Midget Football

Parents suing Richlands Midget Football

There are 158 comments on the Clinch Valley News story from Mar 27, 2012, titled Parents suing Richlands Midget Football. In it, Clinch Valley News reports that:

A group of parents have retained an attorney and may be heading to court in an attempt to save a midget league football team.

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for the kids

Richlands, VA

#1 Mar 27, 2012
There is over 100 6-9 year olds in minor league baseball this season enough for 9 teams. I didnt see little league close down minor league teams because there wasnt enough for 9 little league teams.
mother

Richlands, VA

#2 Mar 27, 2012
I believe it is discrimination, come on I have a child in Raven school & I am not poor but I struggle as do alot of pple every where..but for years pple have bad mouthed Raven!! Which makes me sooo angry, they singled out Raven because $$$ talks & b.s. walks..They feel that alot of lower class pple with low income go to that school, dont get me wrong alot of pple from that school have good jobs & income but also alot of them dont do so well! They think noone can/will do anyhting to really fight it because noone has the finances to REALLY FIGHT IT!!! That is what they think,but some ofus think our children are worth fighting for no matter what the cost!! Teach our kids to have pride in their school please dont give up, that is what 1 of the board members actually said"it will blow over & die down" & "everyone will let it go & move on"..Its just not right, The Raven Crimson Tides have been a 50 ++ year team, lets prove them wrong dont let it die down, I am not saying be ugly or get mean or violent that isnt what we want our children to learn either. Just to stand up for themselves & their own & most of all to stand up for what is right & discrimination is not right if it be because of race, gender, age, looks or income & lack of income!!$$ or no $$ our kids desserve to play for their school with their coaches & friends that they have played with & for their whole lives thus far!! THANKS & LETS DONT GIVE UP & LET IT BLOW OVER!! TEACH OUR KIDS TO BE FIGHTERS NOT QUITERS!!
mother

Richlands, VA

#3 Mar 27, 2012
OOPS "anything" & "of us" typos
Well

King George, VA

#4 Mar 28, 2012
There's nothing no one can do about it. The board Found reasons, voted n what's done is done. Can't find any reasons to bring anyone else down bc even if you could your only hurting the other kids on the other teams. If they couldn't find any reasons to vote raven off they wouldn't have done it but apparently there was something wrong that parents that are so mad about didn't or couldn't see. I understand that ppl will b upset but y make it worse on the kids by talking all this crap n not allowing them to play or cheer on the other teams. There just as good and all of the coaches r wonderful. But instead all these raven parents r just going to fuss rant n rave n make the kids suffer if some would b willing to play on other teams. I don't see how a lawyer is brought into this bc it's no pay it b different if it was a school.
Just asking

Richlands, VA

#5 Mar 28, 2012
Little league baseball and basketball just take all the kids and divide them up on teams doesn't matter where thet live. Why does football still operate that way? Put all the kids together and divide them up fairly. That way all teams are competitive and every team has all kinds on it. It's supposed to be fun for everyone. Take the community or school names out of it.
Well

King George, VA

#6 Mar 28, 2012
And It had NOTHING to do about where these kids live!!! I live in raven that's a sorry excuse to try to bring up bc of where y'all live n how much money. Kids from different teams r the same status as "raven" kids. And what leg does any parent have to stand on? Bc you all live in raven n there judging?? Sounds kinda petty to me n like I said if something could b done your just hurting these other kids!!! Sounds a tad selfish if ya ask me, but I hope this goes to court bc Im sure they have good reasons to back the complaints up from raven parents. And I'm sure ppl will b mad at my post m that's fine shouldn't put it up where ppl can have a say so
agree

New Hope, VA

#7 Mar 28, 2012
I do not have children that play football but watched a friends child play last year against the Cowboys. I was astounded how many kids were on the Cowboys team compared with the other teams. Why is there such a difference in numbers? How can that be fair? Do grown men think it is ok to make such a difference as long as they win?
ARavenCrimsonTid eParent

United States

#8 Mar 28, 2012
The board had their reasons whatever they may be, but they have no leg to stand on.
Their reason for getting rid of the Raven Crimson Tide is that we didn't have the numbers, where the President himself had made it obvious that we had more kids playing in midget than cedar bluff or the cowboys at some point. Our smurfs and peewee teams had awesome numbers and came in second in the Richlands area.
So, you that you know so much about this topic tell me one good reason to cut the tide since you know do much about it. Ui
Have you thought of the fact that a lot of kids would be benched, not getting any play time from other teams, because kids from the tide would be joining.
We had close to 90 some kids, now put them all in the blue devils camp, because that was promised to us by board members. You tell me how you are gonna let about 40 kids in smurf, same in peewee equally have the same amount of playing time.
The problem that Richlands Midget Football League is having is that they do not have the numbers in their midgets. But to cut one camp is not gonna resolve that problem.
I would never tell my children they couldn't play football. But I will not make them play for a team they do not want to play.
And yes we do make a big fuss about our team being cut, because we are proud of our camp, our players, our cheers and coaches. My children have played for Raven since they were 4 years old. They have learned the basics of football and grown as a team. Our coaches are wonderful with them and the kids have fun. This to me is more than I could ever ask for. And I am not saying that other teams have wonderful coaches. This fuss is not about other teams, this fuss is about OUR team. And no we are not selfish, we just care about our children. And we stand up for what we believe in.
You can judge me for that if you want, I really do not care. But before you speak, you might want to check the facts and not just listen to one story. There are always two sides of the story.
Tracy

Richlands, VA

#9 Mar 28, 2012
it has nothing to do with being fair our COWBOYS are a damn good team thats why we have so many kids on our teams we are a very fair!!! that statement you made about not being fair didnt make any sense the reason we have so many is because everybody likes our teams and wants to be on it!!! this is about the raven teams not the cowboys or cedarbluff or honaker its about raven so leave everybody else out of it!!!!
just me

New Hope, VA

#10 Mar 28, 2012
the only real answer is to just cut the midget program at raven and keep the smurf and peewee level at raven.one of the tazewell teams did this some time back. after the kids leave the peewees draft them into the other midget programs. there is a need for midget players in the whole league when my son played we had 28 kids on peewees and only 14 when they got to midgets so theres a compromise that all should agree to so theres no lawyers or no crap just my opinion
Parent from Raven Tides

Richlands, VA

#11 Mar 28, 2012
Whoever said it is selfish!!! Let your child come home 1 day in tears saying "mommy we do not get to cheer with our friends anymore & our coaches" ....Then see how happy you are, & furthermore I have limited sources if my child has to cheer for another team, she will not get to. I have no ride to whatever location THEY CHOOSE for her. Alot of parents say they can not manage getting them to practice somewhere else every day!! Whereas we are in walking distance of our schhol, thats just 1 of the many problems with this!! I myself went to Raven my whole life & like someone else said its been Raven Crimson Tides for 50+ years, they can just vote it off in a 5 minute decision without even telling us!! Just blind sided 1 day!! We pay for their uniforms, trophys & every other cost that applies to them playing so how is it hurting anyone!! If us parents are willing to pay all the costs...All it is doing is hurting us & our kids,coaches & etc!! DONT TELL US ABOUT SELFISH!!! ITS SELFISH TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT OUR KIDS LOVE SO MUCH AWAY!! A BUNCH OF GROWN MEN MAKING THE DECISION TO HURT A BUNCH OF PARENTS BUT MOSTLY OUR CHILDREN, WITHOUT GIVING US A SAY OR EVEN A 2nd THOUGHT!!! Next yr or the next our # s may be perfect & someone elses may be to low, this is 1 of those things that changes every year (the # of kids that decide to play)!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK COWBOY MOM OR WHOEVER SAID WHAT A GREAT TEAM COWBOYS ARE & TO LEAVE THEM OUT OF IT..you sound very serious about your team & your pride in the COWBOYS,, SO HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF TOMAROW YOU JUST SUDDENLY GOT THIS B.S. LETTER SAYING "SORRY NO MORE COWBOYS, BUT DONT WORRY WE WILL PICK A TEAM FOR YOUR CHILDREN TO SIT ON THE BENCH FOR NEXT YEAR" YOU DAG-ON RIGHT WE ARE MAD !!!! WE FEEL WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM(KIDS,COACHES & ALL) WE OUR PROUD OF THEM & TAKE PRIDE IN OUR SCHOOL JUST LIKE YOU...BTW, LAWYERS DONT TAKE CASES IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE CASE ....THEY ARE VERY EDUCATED & KNOW WHATS RIGHT & WRONG, THANK U...
Parent from Raven Tides

Richlands, VA

#12 Mar 28, 2012
oops *school
hahahaha

Charlotte, NC

#13 Mar 28, 2012
Parent from Raven Tides wrote:
oops *school
Is that really the only mistake you see?
Wow

Charlotte, NC

#14 Mar 28, 2012
Parent from Raven Tides wrote:
Whoever said it is selfish!!! Let your child come home 1 day in tears saying "mommy we do not get to cheer with our friends anymore & our coaches" ....Then see how happy you are, & furthermore I have limited sources if my child has to cheer for another team, she will not get to. I have no ride to whatever location THEY CHOOSE for her. Alot of parents say they can not manage getting them to practice somewhere else every day!! Whereas we are in walking distance of our schhol, thats just 1 of the many problems with this!! I myself went to Raven my whole life & like someone else said its been Raven Crimson Tides for 50+ years, they can just vote it off in a 5 minute decision without even telling us!! Just blind sided 1 day!! We pay for their uniforms, trophys & every other cost that applies to them playing so how is it hurting anyone!! If us parents are willing to pay all the costs...All it is doing is hurting us & our kids,coaches & etc!! DONT TELL US ABOUT SELFISH!!! ITS SELFISH TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT OUR KIDS LOVE SO MUCH AWAY!! A BUNCH OF GROWN MEN MAKING THE DECISION TO HURT A BUNCH OF PARENTS BUT MOSTLY OUR CHILDREN, WITHOUT GIVING US A SAY OR EVEN A 2nd THOUGHT!!! Next yr or the next our # s may be perfect & someone elses may be to low, this is 1 of those things that changes every year (the # of kids that decide to play)!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK COWBOY MOM OR WHOEVER SAID WHAT A GREAT TEAM COWBOYS ARE & TO LEAVE THEM OUT OF IT..you sound very serious about your team & your pride in the COWBOYS,, SO HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF TOMAROW YOU JUST SUDDENLY GOT THIS B.S. LETTER SAYING "SORRY NO MORE COWBOYS, BUT DONT WORRY WE WILL PICK A TEAM FOR YOUR CHILDREN TO SIT ON THE BENCH FOR NEXT YEAR" YOU DAG-ON RIGHT WE ARE MAD !!!! WE FEEL WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM(KIDS,COACHES & ALL) WE OUR PROUD OF THEM & TAKE PRIDE IN OUR SCHOOL JUST LIKE YOU...BTW, LAWYERS DONT TAKE CASES IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE CASE ....THEY ARE VERY EDUCATED & KNOW WHATS RIGHT & WRONG, THANK U...
"LAWYERS DONT TAKE CASES IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE CASE ....THEY ARE VERY EDUCATED & KNOW WHATS RIGHT & WRONG, THANK U..." This is the most ridiculous statement that you have made. There is an attorney somewhere that will file a suit for anything. Why do you think the profession has such a bad reputation?
ARavenCrimsonTid eParent

United States

#15 Mar 28, 2012
This "fight" is not about the Cowboys, Raiders or Blue Devils. We are just not going to sit back and watch. We have made many suggestions to several board members, like someone said before take the midgets from the Tide. Let's combine all midgets, put them in a draft and create two Richlands teams. Not one Raven parent had a problem with these ideas, because we all know that there is a problem with midget numbers in ALL camps.
I believe it was the year before last, that the twin valley panthers had problems with their smurfs. And they were told by the RMFL board that they could just play with their peewees and midgets.
There are a lot of details that not everybody knows, how exactly things were handled. Not the right way.
And the other parent before me is right. What if it would be your child that was told they could not play for their team anymore? And go to school and are being made fun off by another child. These are children who enjoyed playing football and cheering for their friends.
The boards big plan is to get Richlands down to only 2 teams, so they can get stronger and beat teams like Honaker, Lebanon and Tazewell. There are 3 teams right now. Wonder which one will be next ??? Wonder if you feel the same way you do right now when they take your childs team ?
ridiculous

New Hope, VA

#16 Mar 28, 2012
Tracy wrote:
it has nothing to do with being fair our COWBOYS are a damn good team thats why we have so many kids on our teams we are a very fair!!! that statement you made about not being fair didnt make any sense the reason we have so many is because everybody likes our teams and wants to be on it!!! this is about the raven teams not the cowboys or cedarbluff or honaker its about raven so leave everybody else out of it!!!!
When you have twice the kids on your team as the other teams of course you are going to have an unfair advantage as you have double the kids to choose from. Give the other teams twice the players & even the playing field & then brag. I would be ashamed to brag if I were you. That is like comparing apples & oranges. I understand you don't want attention brought to the fact the Cowboys numbers are ridiculous when placed beside others teams. Perhaps this needs addressed. It sounds like all teams need to be dissolved & start from scratch. Why destroy one team that children have played for & not take a hard look at the other teams.
a parent as well

Stafford, VA

#17 Mar 28, 2012
As some of u have said before, its NOT about numbers or kids. It is about the GROWN MEN that are making the decision, they are doing what they want done by laws or no by laws till u get the president of the league and a few others out they will only continue to have there favoritism. Anybody can come up with reasons to get rid of ANYTHING and that is EXACTLY what they done. Used ANYTHING they could for an excuse to shaft the RAVEN CRIMSON TIDES. Why not cut the Raiders or the Cowboys? U all know why because that is most of the board members teams. If u going to hurt one kid, hurt them all. Put there names in a hat and draw them out to see who's team they would be on. BEAT YA THEN THERE PARENTS WOULD BE MAD AS WELL AND SEEKING LEGAL COUNSEL. It is a shame and disgrace to our community and society that the kids football league has come down to politics and money. Just like the other parent said MONEY TALKS and B.s. walks. I am sure I have ruffled more feathers than few by my comments, but when it comes to hurting kids and causing them to maybe one day not follow there dream and play sports I have zero tolerance. And if u other parents on the other teams stopped and put ur self in these parents shoes u would be right there fighting and supporting to SAVE UR TEAM AS WELL.
who is in charge

Abingdon, VA

#18 Mar 28, 2012
This is what happens when there is no governing body other than the good ole boy board. Our baseball/softball programs have the Little League Organization that sets rules and ensures fairness. Youth basketball, football, and even soccer has no governing body just a hand chosen few that make all the decisions. The Town of Richlands doesn't run any of these programs so there is really not much left to do for these parents. I think it is time that tax payers demand the town to take these programs over so a select few can't decide what's in the best interest of us all.
a parent as well

Stafford, VA

#19 Mar 28, 2012
VERY WELL SAID!!! I AGREE!!!
who is in charge wrote:
This is what happens when there is no governing body other than the good ole boy board. Our baseball/softball programs have the Little League Organization that sets rules and ensures fairness. Youth basketball, football, and even soccer has no governing body just a hand chosen few that make all the decisions. The Town of Richlands doesn't run any of these programs so there is really not much left to do for these parents. I think it is time that tax payers demand the town to take these programs over so a select few can't decide what's in the best interest of us all.
Outsider

Richlands, VA

#20 Mar 28, 2012
When you talk about roster size from my understanding the league for the last few years has had a draft. The draft is done to give each team the same number of players. Each team last year from my understanding all left with the same number of players. The key to the leagues success is for each team to keep their kids. With a draft being done on a yearly basis I would assume that there is kids from everywhere on each of these 4 teams. It's not the old days anymore where you played where you lived.

Also this is not about the Raiders, Blue Devils, or Cowboys. This is about Raven and I understand the concern from the Raven Parents in regards to this matter as well as any other team in the league.

The board I assume still does yearly elections which is open for all people to have the option to take a board position. Whether this is football, baseball, basketball, or soccer the parents should be thankful that some of the men & woman in this community take time out of their lives to ensure your child has a league to be part of!!!!!!!

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