Kampfer says -- Nobody here is trying...

Kampfer says -- Nobody here is trying to create any kind of fog

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Ratonian

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Mar 12, 2013
I have to chuckle (or perhaps gawk, wide-eyed?) at current city manager Pete Kampfer's latest quotes -- in the Raton Range newspaper's March 12, 2013 edition.

http://ratonrange.com/ag-city-violated-law-on...

His first great quote, from that ever-popular hometown newspaper's article:

"City Manager Pete Kampfer called the information in the attorney general’s letter "advice, instruction and comments on how we ought to be writing" closed-session items in meeting agendas. "It’s good advice," he said. "We’ll follow it."

Okay. One of my many questions in regards to that particular quote would be: Does this mean you are reversing your previously stated position in regards to the Attorney General, Mr. Kampfer? I refer specifically to an older issue of the Raton Range (anyone got the date handy? if not, I'll go look it up, later) in which you were quoted on the front page as having said, in some other context, that, "The Attorney General's opinion is contrary to law" or something very close to that. Sounds like a major reversal to me ... so, is it?

Let's move on the Kampfer's second great quote from the March 12th edition:

"There’s nobody here trying to create any kind of fog," said Kampfer...

The reason I have a question in regards to that quote is that, back when Pete Kampfer, Charles Starkovich, and the other sitting commissioners who were in place back around June and July of 2012, there were a LOT of veiled and/or brazenly open accusations made about just that ... BY city hall; AGAINST the management and/or other employees working at Raton Public Service. So, again, this very recent quote from our latest in a long string of short-timers in the city manager's office in Raton looks a lot like a reversal of a previously stated position. I see no way around it, given the language that Mr. Kampfer used. The man said, very specifically, that "there's NOBODY here trying to create any kind of fog" ... and yet he and the other so-called city leaders spent WAY too much of the taxpayer's money, last summer, trying to -- apparently, by his own latest admission?-- to falsely accuse other city employees of creating some kind of an extra-legal "fog" around their activities. If no one working at or near or for Raton's management and/or other staff, was ever creating any kind of a fog, in or around the time period of the AG's current report on city hall's bona-fide VIOLATIONS of Sunshine Laws, then why did ex-mayor Starkovich and current city manager Kampfer, and others working with them, spend so much last year claiming the opposite?

Considering that Gwyneth Doland of the aptly-named "NM FOG" (or "New Mexico Foundation for Open Government") just wrote up a report in Sunday's ABQ Journal (page B3), telling folks like me to keep on "fighting the good fight" in regards to questioning government agencies and pushing for more transparency, and she let it be known that this week is "Sunshine Week," the questions above seem to me to be right on the money. So, Mr. Kampfer: let's hear some good answers. As a public servant who just spent a LOT of taxpayer dollars unsuccessfully defending yourself against one non-lawyer'ed-up citizen's complaints about a percieved (and now proven) lack of openness, instead of simply showing up at the Attorney General's Roadshow events, where you and other city leaders could have been trained (as I was) for zero dollars about OMA and IPRA, I think you majorly owe it to every citizen in Raton to answer the several important questions above. The commission meeting tonight would be a great place to hear those answers.

-- Ward Shrake --
pops

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Mar 12, 2013
With all due respect, Mr Shrake, have you heard of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? Some day you'll have all the 'poop' on something really big, but no one will listen.

And it behooves you to develop a more concise writing style. Over 600 words in that post of yours, to say what?
robin

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Mar 12, 2013
pops wrote:
With all due respect, Mr Shrake, have you heard of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? Some day you'll have all the 'poop' on something really big, but no one will listen.
And it behooves you to develop a more concise writing style. Over 600 words in that post of yours, to say what?
just heard pete kampfer is leaving us. thank you mr. shrak!!! last day is march 27th
stupid

Santa Fe, NM

#4 Mar 12, 2013
might get someone worse u neer know.
Munckey

Colorado Springs, CO

#5 Mar 12, 2013
stupid wrote:
might get someone worse u neer know.
You might. And you might not.

Odds are on the latter.
No way jose

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Mar 12, 2013
OMG, you're right, we could get someone worse to come in here and screw up our town. Let's offer Kampfer more money and maybe he will stay>>>>>> >
stupid

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Mar 15, 2013
should take his son chris reed with him he has not done a thing for raton at 50 thousand a year...next city manager i heard.
Berta

Anonymous Proxy

#8 Mar 15, 2013
wow...love this site...made me so wet :)
jack

Clovis, NM

#9 Mar 28, 2013
He is not leaving. But he dumped Penny ....for Deb Harris
Jake Anderson

Lees Summit, MO

#10 Mar 28, 2013
robin wrote:
<quoted text>just heard pete kampfer is leaving us. thank you mr. shrak!!! last day is march 27th
Ole Pete got a high paying job with the FBI and he said he was glad to leave Raton.He sure is a good ole boy and I hate to see a good man leave but i know that much money is hard to pass up.Im sure the FBI is pleased to have you back so good luck to you in your new position.Raton will miss you Pete and we can only hope get a good man like you to fill your shoes.
Ratonian

Santa Fe, NM

#11 Mar 29, 2013
pops wrote:
With all due respect, Mr Shrake, have you heard of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? Some day you'll have all the 'poop' on something really big, but no one will listen. And it behooves you to develop a more concise writing style. Over 600 words in that post of yours, to say what?
The smart-a** in me wants to answer that last question with, "To say that you should go read a great book called, "The Shallows: What the Internet is doing to our brains"!

:-)

Actually, it just goes to show how little you're paying attention, and thinking about what things may mean, over the long term -- since, as city hall apparently figured out quite a long time ago, quite a lot of the time when some folks here can't figure out what the point is, I'm commenting on things about to happen; rather than (as most posters here do) commenting on past-tense events. If you go back and look, and see what happened and what I had said, a bit before it happened ... well, contrary to your point of view, I'd argue have one of the best prediction ratios around here!

Example: While everyone else was seeing Pete's job here, as city manager, as a constant that would absolutely never change; I long viewed it as a variable. Who ended up being right? I did!

Or looking in today's newspaper: while his cronies on the commission are trying (key word, methinks) to give Pete a second job in Raton, after he voluntarily quit his first one, I'm considering both that second job of Pete's, and the current jobs of his cronies on the commission, to be another variable.

And I'm betting that timestamps well into the future will show I was right on that, too.

A lot of the time, I'm just pointing my baseball bat over the park's walls, in a certain spot ... and if the only one that understands what's going on is the opposing team, that's fine with me. And if there's occasionally some misdirection ... well, it's all just a game. Looking back, later: it'll all sort itself.

But, hey: believe anything you want to believe. And read or don't read what's posted here, as you see fit. Suits me, either way.

-- Ward Shrake --

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