Minimum wage
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#41 Feb 14, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed.

There are hundreds of thousands of people who farm, or who own, or till land from 50 acres to 500 acres.
Because of taxpayer subsidies a/k/a welfare, these "operations" make money.

This is where the federal welfare flows in Georgia:

Georgia ranking: 16 of 50 States
70 percent of farms in Georgia did not collect subsidy payments - according to USDA.
Ten percent collected 82 percent of all subsidies.
Amounting to $4.44 billion over 17 years.
Top 10%:$34,680 average per year between 1995 and 2011.
Bottom 80%:$465 average per year between 1995 and 2011.

This is where the federal welfare flows in Texas - where they don't want all that welfare :

Texas Summary Information
2011
$25.9 billion in subsidies 1995-2011.
$15.3 billion in commodity subsidies.
$4.36 billion in crop insurance subsidies.
$2.91 billion in conservation subsidies.
$3.34 billion in disaster subsidies.
Texas ranking: 1 of 50 States
81 percent of farms in Texas did not collect subsidy payments - according to USDA.
Ten percent collected 78 percent of all subsidies.
Amounting to $16.7 billion over 17 years.
Top 10%:$41,496 average per year between 1995 and 2011.
Bottom 80%:$657 average per year between 1995 and 2011.
Just noticed the average size of a "farm" on Rhode Island is 71 acres, in Wyoming it's 3,701 acres. But of course that the size of the "farm" according to the "farmer". It's not the size of the "farm land" owned by the "owner".
UC Voter

Jefferson, GA

#42 Feb 14, 2013
We are too far in the pits to have a couple dollar min wage raise help people.
I had lunch with a business owner in Blue Ridge today and was told they can't afford health coverage and a raise in pay for all employees. They will lay off people or cut hours and the owners will work more hours.

“Dont care how you did it in FL”

Since: Oct 11

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#43 Feb 15, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post.
Most "farms" are about 5.000 to 8,000 acres and they are leased to local farmers in approximately hundred acre blocks. Land runs about $10K an acre. That means just the local operations for these multinational corporations are $50,000,000.00 to $80,000,000.00 operations.
"Mom & Pop" farms don't exist - not at $10K an acre. "Mom and Pop" have cashed out and made a fortune.
Sharecroppers made a comeback?
Union co

Dawsonville, GA

#44 Feb 15, 2013
Timmy_ wrote:
<quoted text>Sharecroppers made a comeback?
Timmy your to fat and lazy to work in a pie shop

“Dont care how you did it in FL”

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#45 Feb 15, 2013
Union co wrote:
<quoted text>
Timmy your to fat and lazy to work in a pie shop
I aint a bit fat and have worked hard in the fields.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#46 Feb 15, 2013
Timmy_ wrote:
<quoted text>Sharecroppers made a comeback?
Sounds like it.

But what crops would we grow in Rhode Island ?

“Dont care how you did it in FL”

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#47 Feb 15, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like it.
But what crops would we grow in Rhode Island ?
Pumpkins?
Floridian

Orlando, FL

#48 Feb 15, 2013
Timmy_ wrote:
<quoted text>Pumpkins?
And in Georgia you can grow Bumpkins, oh wait, there is already a bumper crop of those so no market for them.
Yep

Cleveland, GA

#49 Feb 16, 2013
froggy wrote:
<quoted text>Then when you dish it our quit whinin, baby when yous gets it back.
Hey froggy, as the name implies you are the one jumping, make no mistake I’m not whining.

It just appears I may be better at cutting your legs out from under you, than you are jumping.

So maybe you should just cool it, and slither on back into the sludge before you croak.
Yep

Cleveland, GA

#50 Feb 16, 2013
froggy wrote:
<quoted text>Youse postin under at least 2 names...how many more?
As many as I choose, and you?

Make it brief, really this is a waste of time. There are important matters at hand.
Yep

Cleveland, GA

#51 Feb 16, 2013
UC Voter wrote:
We are too far in the pits to have a couple dollar min wage raise help people.
I had lunch with a business owner in Blue Ridge today and was told they can't afford health coverage and a raise in pay for all employees. They will lay off people or cut hours and the owners will work more hours.
Point exactly.

Many who aren't working would be happy to work for as many hours as possible at $7.25 per hour, as opposed to unemployed = zero (0) hours @$9.

Economics 101
Chaos

Hoschton, GA

#52 Feb 17, 2013
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>
Point exactly.
Many who aren't working would be happy to work for as many hours as possible at $7.25 per hour, as opposed to unemployed = zero (0) hours @$9.
Economics 101
The great and powerful oz has spoken.
Curious

Ellijay, GA

#53 Feb 17, 2013
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>
Point exactly.
Many who aren't working would be happy to work for as many hours as possible at $7.25 per hour, as opposed to unemployed = zero (0) hours @$9.
Economics 101
All 7.25 does is prolong the agony. If you are in danger of losing your house etc. all a minimum wage job does is move it down the road a few months at best. With gas prices so high now you would be lucky to even break even if you had to drive very far to a job that paid minimum wage. It is a very depressing time for a lot of people now.
chevy

Homer, GA

#54 Feb 17, 2013
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>All 7.25 does is prolong the agony. If you are in danger of losing your house etc. all a minimum wage job does is move it down the road a few months at best. With gas prices so high now you would be lucky to even break even if you had to drive very far to a job that paid minimum wage. It is a very depressing time for a lot of people now.
You are right it is a very depressing time for a lot of people now.

That is except for Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and that big dummy, Biden. Those people don't have a worry in the world. Wait, I forgot, they are worried about the middle class, oh yes, sure they are. Its enough to make you wanna puke. That idiot Obama doesn't give a sh-it about anyone except his his pathetic and dumbass self and his golf score. Whay should he worry. everything is someone elses fault and the press lets him get away with it. sure wish we had a man for president. maybe in four more years we'll get one, you know maybe Hillary.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#55 Feb 17, 2013
chevy wrote:
<quoted text>You are right it is a very depressing time for a lot of people now.

That is except for Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and that big dummy, Biden. Those people don't have a worry in the world. Wait, I forgot, they are worried about the middle class, oh yes, sure they are. Its enough to make you wanna puke. That idiot Obama doesn't give a sh-it about anyone except his his pathetic and dumbass self and his golf score. Whay should he worry. everything is someone elses fault and the press lets him get away with it. sure wish we had a man for president. maybe in four more years we'll get one, you know maybe Hillary.
Wow !

And entire post without a single fact to support the ideological diatribe.

Yep, Presidents Cheney & Bush obviously cares for the middle class.

That's they:
Cut taxes for the rich;
Almost doubled the national debt;
Started three wars;
Failed to pay for any of their wars;
Allowed Wall Street to rape and devastate the economy;
Allowed the banking industry to implode; and
Shredded the Constitution.

Now please advisor which of these facts that anyone can dispute.

But hey, maybe you were posting Anti-Bush posts too ? Just kinda doubt it.
citizen

Hoschton, GA

#56 Feb 17, 2013
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>All 7.25 does is prolong the agony. If you are in danger of losing your house etc. all a minimum wage job does is move it down the road a few months at best. With gas prices so high now you would be lucky to even break even if you had to drive very far to a job that paid minimum wage. It is a very depressing time for a lot of people now.
So what would you have them do, kill themselves and their families and end the agony? If minimum wage had kept up with executive salaries it would now be $23 an hr.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#57 Feb 17, 2013
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>Point exactly.

Many who aren't working would be happy to work for as many hours as possible at $7.25 per hour, as opposed to unemployed = zero (0) hours @$9.

Economics 101
And many who employ Americans would be happy to pay $2.25 an hour and enjoy the excesses profits.

We taxpayers can pick up the medical bills, housing costs, food costs, etc. for those who work at a wage that cannot support life in America.

Ah, the Fascists dream - privatize privity and externalizing costs.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#58 Feb 17, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>And many who employ Americans would be happy to pay $2.25 an hour and enjoy the excesses profits.

We taxpayers can pick up the medical bills, housing costs, food costs, etc. for those who work at a wage that cannot support life in America.

Ah, the Fascists dream - privatize privity and externalizing costs.
Sorry. Spellcheck strikes again - privatize "profit."
chevy

Homer, GA

#59 Feb 17, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow !
And entire post without a single fact to support the ideological diatribe.
Yep, Presidents Cheney & Bush obviously cares for the middle class.
That's they:
Cut taxes for the rich;
Almost doubled the national debt;
Started three wars;
Failed to pay for any of their wars;
Allowed Wall Street to rape and devastate the economy;
Allowed the banking industry to implode; and
Shredded the Constitution.
Now please advisor which of these facts that anyone can dispute.
But hey, maybe you were posting Anti-Bush posts too ? Just kinda doubt it.
heres a big fact, Bush isn't the president and Cheny isnt vp. now thats a fact. maybe you didnt know that.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#60 Feb 17, 2013
chevy wrote:
<quoted text>heres a big fact, Bush isn't the president and Cheny isnt vp. now thats a fact. maybe you didnt know that.
Maybe you weren't around those eight years.

To those of us who paid attention -

Bush was the cowardly draft-dodging spoiled rich white boy that Wall Street and the oil companies made official president,
and
Cheney was the soulless Darth Vader tasked to keep Dufus in line, the de facto President.

Bush is obviously way to much of an incompetent buffoon to have so completely destroyed the average American to benefit the überrich.

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