What about Obama's relatives...
DOO

San Antonio, TX

#21 Mar 7, 2013
itsme wrote:
Albert what is your obsession with monkeys? Can you give an intellegent response for once without mentioning monkeys? Let it go Albert...let it go.
My boyfriend spanks my monkey every day.
guest

Warrenton, VA

#22 Mar 7, 2013
itsme wrote:
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You are implying what I said. Lol! Why to back stroke. Glenn Beck...whats this got to do with him? Isnt he off tv now? This has nothing to do with Glenn Beck...there you go impling again. Lol...hahahahaha....bwaahahaha ha!
Oh, you also have difficulty with reading and comprehension, I can't help you there. Maybe it would help if you go back and read what was actually written in post #8,…..maybe…...(yes I post as guest too). You're showing signs of unraveling.
itsme

Chickamauga, GA

#23 Mar 7, 2013
guest wrote:
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Your point was obvious and remains pathetic. About as pathetically ignorant as your post regarding the facts of evolution.
The implication in your post is that America today is similar to Nazi Germany. That is pure insanity.
You mean this one.....
itsme

Chickamauga, GA

#24 Mar 7, 2013
First of all there never has been nor ever will be "facts" about evolution. That's why it has always been and always will be called a theory. Your statesment toward me always implied something...you should go back and read all your post again.
guest

United States

#25 Mar 8, 2013
itsme wrote:
First of all there never has been nor ever will be "facts" about evolution. That's why it has always been and always will be called a theory. Your statesment toward me always implied something...you should go back and read all your post again.
You obviously don't understand the difference between how science defines theory and the laypersons use of theory.

Do you consider the notion of gravity to be a theory? I don't expect a straight answer (or any answer really), but I thought I'd ask anyhow.
itsme

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Mar 8, 2013
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts.[1]

Each of the words evolution, fact and theory has several meanings in different contexts. Evolution means change over time, as in stellar evolution. In biology it refers to observed changes in organisms, to their descent from a common ancestor, and at a technical level to a change in gene frequency over time; it can also refer to explanatory theories such as Darwin's theory of natural selection which explain the mechanisms of evolution. Fact can mean to a scientist a repeatable observation that all can agree on; it can mean something that is so well established that nobody in a community disagrees with it; it can also refer to the truth or falsity of a proposition. To the public theory can mean an opinion or conjecture ("it's only a theory"), but in the scientific world it has a much stronger connotation of "well-substantiated explanation". With this number of choices, people often end up talking past each other, and meanings become the subject of linguistic analysis.

Evidence for evolution continues to be accumulated and tested. The scientific literature includes statements by evolutionary biologists and philosophers of science demonstrating some of the different perspectives on evolution as fact and theory.
Steve

Dalton, GA

#27 Mar 8, 2013
corporate wrote:
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Obama went into office with a 6 trillion debt and taken is to a 15 trillion debt. What an accomplishment.
What did you expect Obama to do ? Bush had two wars going ,there was no money and the people was loseing jobs left and right , businesses was closing .That means less tax money . Obama could not stand up and say I am sorry but all you troops fighting in the two countries are on your own .The U S A has no money to spend on you because we will have to barrow more money and I will not allow it . You can fight with your fists now and get home the best way you can. Obama had no choice but to barrow money and you know it .
Herbert

United States

#28 Mar 8, 2013
Didn't Charles Darwin write an entire book about Obama's ancestors?
corporate

Summerville, GA

#29 Mar 8, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>What did you expect Obama to do ? Bush had two wars going ,there was no money and the people was loseing jobs left and right , businesses was closing .That means less tax money . Obama could not stand up and say I am sorry but all you troops fighting in the two countries are on your own .The U S A has no money to spend on you because we will have to barrow more money and I will not allow it . You can fight with your fists now and get home the best way you can. Obama had no choice but to barrow money and you know it .
BS. All any body wants Obama to do is what he promised to do. He promised to close gitmo and didn't. He promised more to increase jobs. Still unemployment over 7%. He also said if didn't do these things in his first term that he didn't deserve to be re- elected but he whined his way into another four years. Now he brought UBLs son in law to New York to stand trial. How ignorant is that?
Steve

Dalton, GA

#30 Mar 8, 2013
corporate wrote:
<quoted text>
BS. All any body wants Obama to do is what he promised to do. He promised to close gitmo and didn't. He promised more to increase jobs. Still unemployment over 7%. He also said if didn't do these things in his first term that he didn't deserve to be re- elected but he whined his way into another four years. Now he brought UBLs son in law to New York to stand trial. How ignorant is that?
Its funny how you change things when you find out you are wrong .You make a comment about something and when you get the answer you change to something different .
corporate

Summerville, GA

#31 Mar 8, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>Its funny how you change things when you find out you are wrong .You make a comment about something and when you get the answer you change to something different .
I responded to your dumb remark. But you don't respond to mine. Why?
guest

United States

#32 Mar 8, 2013
itsme wrote:
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts.[1]
Each of the words evolution, fact and theory has several meanings in different contexts. Evolution means change over time, as in stellar evolution. In biology it refers to observed changes in organisms, to their descent from a common ancestor, and at a technical level to a change in gene frequency over time; it can also refer to explanatory theories such as Darwin's theory of natural selection which explain the mechanisms of evolution. Fact can mean to a scientist a repeatable observation that all can agree on; it can mean something that is so well established that nobody in a community disagrees with it; it can also refer to the truth or falsity of a proposition. To the public theory can mean an opinion or conjecture ("it's only a theory"), but in the scientific world it has a much stronger connotation of "well-substantiated explanation". With this number of choices, people often end up talking past each other, and meanings become the subject of linguistic analysis.
Evidence for evolution continues to be accumulated and tested. The scientific literature includes statements by evolutionary biologists and philosophers of science demonstrating some of the different perspectives on evolution as fact and theory.
It took me 10 seconds to find this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fac...
And you didn't even have the decency to use quotation marks.
Now read Gould's words in context and in their entirety: http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_...
Here's an excerpt (you really ought to read the whole thing)-
<"According to idealized principles of scientific discourse, the arousal of dormant issues should reflect fresh data that give renewed life to abandoned notions. Those outside the current debate may therefore be excused for suspecting that creationists have come up with something new, or that evolutionists have generated some serious internal trouble. But nothing has changed; the creationists have presented not a single new fact or argument. Darrow and Bryan were at least more entertaining than we lesser antagonists today. The rise of creationism is politics, pure and simple; it represents one issue (and by no means the major concern) of the resurgent evangelical right. Arguments that seemed kooky just a decade ago have reentered the mainstream.
The basic attack of modern creationists falls apart on two general counts before we even reach the supposed factual details of their assault against evolution. First, they play upon a vernacular misunderstanding of the word "theory" to convey the false impression that we evolutionists are covering up the rotten core of our edifice. Second, they misuse a popular philosophy of science to argue that they are behaving scientifically in attacking evolution. Yet the same philosophy demonstrates that their own belief is not science, and that "scientific creationism" is a meaningless and self-contradictory phrase, an example of what Orwell called "newspeak." ">
guest

Warrenton, VA

#33 Mar 8, 2013
Continued but not complete (see the website)-
<"In the American vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"—part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus creationists can (and do) argue: evolution is "only" a theory, and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is less than a fact, and scientists can't even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it? Indeed, President Reagan echoed this argument before an evangelical group in Dallas when he said (in what I devoutly hope was campaign rhetoric): "Well, it is a theory. It is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science—that is, not believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was."
Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered.
Moreover, "fact" does not mean "absolute certainty." The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are not about the empirical world. Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science, "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.
Evolutionists have been clear about this distinction between fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory—natural selection—to explain the mechanism of evolution. He wrote in The Descent of Man: "I had two distinct objects in view; firstly, to show that species had not been separately created, and secondly, that natural selection had been the chief agent of change.... Hence if I have erred in ... having exaggerated its [natural selection's] power ... I have at least, as I hope, done good service in aiding to overthrow the dogma of separate creations."
Thus Darwin acknowledged the provisional nature of natural selection while affirming the fact of evolution. The fruitful theoretical debate that Darwin initiated has never ceased. From the 1940s through the 1960s, Darwin's own theory of natural selection did achieve a temporary hegemony that it never enjoyed in his lifetime. But renewed debate characterizes our decade, and, while no biologist questions the importance of natural selection, many doubt its ubiquity. In particular, many evolutionists argue that substantial amounts of genetic change may not be subject to natural selection and may spread through the populations at random. Others are challenging Darwin's linking of natural selection with gradual, imperceptible change through all intermediary degrees; they are arguing that most evolutionary events may occur far more rapidly than Darwin envisioned.">
Wow

Chatsworth, GA

#34 Mar 8, 2013
Cody wrote:
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You and Trump should run for President the next time . Are you sure your not his twins ? You live in the U S and don"t know who won WW2 ? Where have you been living , I bet you are a Muslim .You said ! look at America under the leadership . Obama went into office with two wars going because of Bush , The country was broke , People had lost and was loosing jobs , people had lost their homes .Companies was shutting down .
Obama , has our troops at home from one of Bush"s war"s , and the other troop"s are coming home this year also . This means no more of our troop"s have to die for no reason .Jobs are picking up . Companies are starting to open up again . Health Insurance for everyone to be able to afford it . These are the difference between Bush and Obama .
I'm going to have to see that affordable insurance! Don't believe it yet.
itsme

Chickamauga, GA

#35 Mar 9, 2013
Thank you guest...your entire last post proved my point.
guest

Warrenton, VA

#36 Mar 9, 2013
itsme wrote:
Thank you guest...your entire last post proved my point.
Dang, if that's what you took away from the article then you're a lot further out there than I suspected. Surely you can't be that dense. Did you really read these two excerpts?-
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered."
<"Evolutionists have been clear about this distinction between fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. ">
If this (below) is the paragraph that you use to make your latest claim then you ought to read more slowly and maybe get some help with understanding just what he's saying.
<"Moreover, "fact" does not mean "absolute certainty." The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are not about the empirical world. Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science, "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.">
Gould is saying there that sure anything is possible, that pigs might possibly fly but the probability of that is so far out there that no one takes it seriously. Well I guess there may be some who are out there that far…
He's saying that the facts of evolution are so overwhelming that to deny them is (as I said before) akin to denying gravity. Which brings me back to the question that you didn't answer - Is the notion of gravity a fact? Come on give it a try….
Steve

Dalton, GA

#37 Mar 10, 2013
corporate wrote:
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BS. All any body wants Obama to do is what he promised to do. He promised to close gitmo and didn't. He promised more to increase jobs. Still unemployment over 7%. He also said if didn't do these things in his first term that he didn't deserve to be re- elected but he whined his way into another four years. Now he brought UBLs son in law to New York to stand trial. How ignorant is that?
You did"nt answer my question because you knowed I was right . You had to agree with my comment . Now you have come up with more questions . I will answer you the best I can .
I don"t know why Obama did"nt close the gitmo , Obama has and is still adding more jobs , if you watch the news you will find this to be true ,Obama did"nt whin his way back in office for four more years Obama was voted back in by the people in the United States .
Why Obama brought UBLs to New York to stand trail , I guess he had his reasons . I guess he did"nt think to call you and ask where you wanted the trial to be .Like it or not , Obama is the President . It is his job to do what he thinks is best for the U S A . Bring our troops home from wars they never should have been in to start with should count for something but you don"nt even give him credit for that . No matter what Obama does you will disagree because you don"t like him for some reason .
corporate

Tucker, GA

#38 Mar 10, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>You did"nt answer my question because you knowed I was right . You had to agree with my comment . Now you have come up with more questions . I will answer you the best I can .
I don"t know why Obama did"nt close the gitmo , Obama has and is still adding more jobs , if you watch the news you will find this to be true ,Obama did"nt whin his way back in office for four more years Obama was voted back in by the people in the United States .
Why Obama brought UBLs to New York to stand trail , I guess he had his reasons . I guess he did"nt think to call you and ask where you wanted the trial to be .Like it or not , Obama is the President . It is his job to do what he thinks is best for the U S A . Bring our troops home from wars they never should have been in to start with should count for something but you don"nt even give him credit for that . No matter what Obama does you will disagree because you don"t like him for some reason .
Knowed??? Really where are you from. And I don't like any democrats except my brother
Steve

Dalton, GA

#39 Mar 10, 2013
corporate wrote:
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Knowed??? Really where are you from. And I don't like any democrats except my brother
Well I guess we know your answer . God bless your brother .
Heaven

Griffin, GA

#40 Mar 10, 2013
Comparing Obama to a monkey is JUST NOT FAIR. Monkeys are much smarter, and I'm sure they're very insulted by your comments. BWAHAHAHAHA

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