Women in Combat?

[Floridian]

I was concerned about it until I found out the women’s Navy SEALS stands for SEwing And Laundry Specialist.

[ivy log leonard]

The ex wife was the toughest meanest bitch that ever walked on 2 legs. She would have those Arabs runnin away in no time. I say let ol hags like that fight.

[blairsville devil]

As a combat veteran of two wars I think allowing woman in the combat arms is a big mistake.This may seem for fetching ,but I must be honest .I had rather have a dead woman in my foxhole than a live one.At the least with a corpse ,you know what to xpect from them.The department of Defense is wrong and they will be proven as such

[Not the Average Local]

blairsville devil wrote:

As a combat veteran of two wars I think allowing woman in the combat arms is a big mistake.This may seem for fetching ,but I must be honest .I had rather have a dead woman in my foxhole than a live one.At the least with a corpse ,you know what to xpect from them.The department of Defense is wrong and they will be proven as such

BD, you probably sleep with corpses all the time... some of them may even be women...

[turniptown]

Times are changing whether you like it or not. Gays serve openly now. And it seems women will be in combat units. I personally thought women were special and should be protected, but it seems that the modern woman doesn't want this.If the woman knows the risk when joining than she should be allowed to fight as long as it doesn't put other soldiers at risk.

[blairsville devil]

Turnip town,I think that's the main problen.Will shooting the enemy be more important than protecting the female soldiers.I can't answer that question because I have been retired nearly 40 years .This is a very small time frame ,have people changed in such a short period ,I think not.Men are men and women are women.The demands in a combat situation requires that all be able to perform and I don't think women can carry the load physically or mentally.

[ivy log leonard]

And a woman thats on the rag???? Hell, they are bitchy enough plus those arabs can't get within a 100 miles of one. Shit, that makes me run too come to think of it.

[Floridian]

I'd be for it as long as they are as ugly as my ex. Can't have hot women running around in combat, men will be checking her out instead of who they are supposed to be worried about.

[UC Voter]

blairsville devil wrote:

Turnip town,I think that's the main problen.Will shooting the enemy be more important than protecting the female soldiers.I can't answer that question because I have been retired nearly 40 years .This is a very small time frame ,have people changed in such a short period ,I think not.Men are men and women are women.The demands in a combat situation requires that all be able to perform and I don't think women can carry the load physically or mentally.

That's your problem, old man, you think women need protecting. Women don't need a man's protection any longer. Forty years ago? Yes, people have changed that much. Women can do anything a man can do physically or mentally. Don't sell women short, old fella. You are so out of touch and that is why you smell like moth balls. Remember, I've met you.

Saying you'd rather have a dead women in a fox hole? Horrid. Horrid. So typical of the nastiness you ooze.

[turniptown]

UC Voter wrote:

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That's your problem, old man, you think women need protecting. Women don't need a man's protection any longer. Forty years ago? Yes, people have changed that much. Women can do anything a man can do physically or mentally. Don't sell women short, old fella. You are so out of touch and that is why you smell like moth balls. Remember, I've met you.
Saying you'd rather have a dead women in a fox hole? Horrid. Horrid. So typical of the nastiness you ooze.

I respectfully disagree with your statement a woman can do anything a man can do physically. While I will agree mentally women and men can be equals with even the woman sometimes surpassing them. Why would anyone want to put her self in a hand to hand combat situation with a man, or be killed, lamed , or raped. I am all for equal rights , but women should really think this through.

[turniptown]

I recall having a woman working for me once. The job had been typically a male job, because of continually heavy lifting through out the day. She bid on job and got it. She was an excellent worker, and put forth the effort. But over time the heavy lifting(50 pound bags of salt, as much as 1000-2000 pounds per day)took its toll on her. She hurt herself and had to transfer to a different job. Women sometimes just don't get it they are not as physically strong as a man. There isn't nothing sexist about that it is just a fact.

[UC Voter]

turniptown wrote:

<quoted text>I respectfully disagree with your statement a woman can do anything a man can do physically. While I will agree mentally women and men can be equals with even the woman sometimes surpassing them. Why would anyone want to put her self in a hand to hand combat situation with a man, or be killed, lamed , or raped. I am all for equal rights , but women should really think this through.

Why would a man want to put himself in this position to be killed or injured? Where is it written that men are the protectors of the world and women can't be? Why does rape come to mind? So, you think that men see women as an object to rape and victimize. I feel extremely sorry for you. If you recall, the male Ambassador in Libya was raped by Muslims. Can you explain that, please? Yes, the man was gay and Muslims are against that, but their actions proved to me that the enemy doesn't care who they torture or victimize.

I suspect you are older and another man who lives in the past. Yes, women are capable of doing what men do. Why wouldn't a woman want to be in the service, fly, use weapons, and defend what she believes in? If I was young, I wouldn't think twice about being on the front lines. Trust me, I would be dangerous to the enemy. You can't generalize about women these days. We aren't Betty Crocker any more and few of us want to be Martha Stewart.

[UC Voter]

turniptown wrote:

I recall having a woman working for me once. The job had been typically a male job, because of continually heavy lifting through out the day. She bid on job and got it. She was an excellent worker, and put forth the effort. But over time the heavy lifting(50 pound bags of salt, as much as 1000-2000 pounds per day)took its toll on her. She hurt herself and had to transfer to a different job. Women sometimes just don't get it they are not as physically strong as a man. There isn't nothing sexist about that it is just a fact.

One woman makes you an authority on all women's ability?
I can't begin to tell you how many men I know who have back troubles and work-related injuries from lifting. A fit woman is as strong as a man - she doesn't take her strength for granted like men do; therefore,a woman is often much stronger in the long run than men. In my prime, I could out work any man. I was raised that way by my daddy.

[big news]

Floridian wrote:

I'd be for it as long as they are as ugly as my ex. Can't have hot women running around in combat, men will be checking her out instead of who they are supposed to be worried about.

As a combat veteran, don't think sex [or lack of it] will not be an issue. Right or wrong, it will cause problems. So will gays, but how would our so called "Commander-in-Chief" know anything about that. It won't matter whether they are ugly or not, given enough time.

[Zoltar]

Even though women have served in support roles, they have, over the past several years found themselves in combat situations and have perfromed admirably. Women have served in combat in the armies of other countries such as Isreal, and in most cases have excelled.

Times are changing maybe faster than we would like but, changing none-the-less. I don't have a problem personally with women in combat. Some will be able to perform and some won't just as all men cannot handle combat either physically or mentaly.

The training standards absolutely have to be the same for both men and women.

As a parent, I would be concerned about the likelihood of my daughter being captured and abused as only a female can be.

If it were possible for me to speak to women who want to be in combat, I would just say, be very careful what you wish for. Beyond that, go for it.

[turniptown]

UC Voter wrote:

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One woman makes you an authority on all women's ability?
I can't begin to tell you how many men I know who have back troubles and work-related injuries from lifting. A fit woman is as strong as a man - she doesn't take her strength for granted like men do; therefore,a woman is often much stronger in the long run than men. In my prime, I could out work any man. I was raised that way by my daddy.

I am just stating my opinion . Years ago I would go to the woods with my grandparents as the cut pulpwood and heater wood for a living. I watched my grandmother work along side of her husband. Both doing very hard manual labor to make a living. She never once complained, but in her older years she had lots of health issues(female problems) I often wondered how much of this was due to her earlier years. I am glad we live in a world where women can be treated just like a man, but still a little part of me wonders why would they want to be. Your comment about rape shows your lack of understanding of men. Men have been bred to respect women, too care and provide for them. I don't think that will go away anytime soon. And when it does, I think as a race we will lose a little of our humanity.

[turniptown]

Zoltar wrote:

Even though women have served in support roles, they have, over the past several years found themselves in combat situations and have perfromed admirably. Women have served in combat in the armies of other countries such as Isreal, and in most cases have excelled.
Times are changing maybe faster than we would like but, changing none-the-less. I don't have a problem personally with women in combat. Some will be able to perform and some won't just as all men cannot handle combat either physically or mentaly.
The training standards absolutely have to be the same for both men and women.
As a parent, I would be concerned about the likelihood of my daughter being captured and abused as only a female can be.
If it were possible for me to speak to women who want to be in combat, I would just say, be very careful what you wish for. Beyond that, go for it.

You bring up a good point. As of now physical training requirements are different.

[Truthis Blairsville]

War has changed. In urban warfare there are no front lines per se. Women are on the front as are men.
Might as well recognize it react accordingly.

[turniptown]

big news wrote:

<quoted text>As a combat veteran, don't think sex [or lack of it] will not be an issue. Right or wrong, it will cause problems. So will gays, but how would our so called "Commander-in-Chief" know anything about that. It won't matter whether they are ugly or not, given enough time.

Yes I agree it is hard to fight nature. Looks don't really matter, straight , gay or what ever.

[Slowpoks Boy]

I agree. Women want the same rights as men and I have no problem with that. Along with rights come responsibility, so women also need to be required to register for the draft.

Truthis Blairsville wrote:

War has changed. In urban warfare there are no front lines per se. Women are on the front as are men.
Might as well recognize it react accordingly.