Since: Dec 10

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#125 Mar 2, 2013
ACOG wrote:
Sept. 11th Open Records Request
Copies of each and every document the county has on the money that was refunded by the county employee for the money taken from the Golf Course while an employee of Union County, dates, payments, amounts, ect.
Sept. 13th,
Answer:Due to the workload this week, we have been unable to contact the staff at the Recreation Dept. We will attempt to get them early next week to ask about the information you have requested.
Sept. 20th.
Counties Answer: OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE ANY OF THE REQUEST DOCUMENTS.
It's amazing how this county just wants everyone to forget about this. They can't say it didn't happen. So they just say we can't locate any of the requested documents. What did the county do with the money that was paid back?
Just how many in Lamar's office are involved with this cover-up?
What else is Lamar Paris Office covering up?
Why should one county employee go to jail and not another?
What good are the County's sorry DA'S?
This County needs to make a better choice for the next 4 years.
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Lamar is covering up the crime. The County says they can not locate these request documents. Bull Crap.

This is our Tax Paying money and we have a right to know where it is going and how it is being spent.

Embezzlement may range from the very minor in nature, involving only small amounts, to the immense, involving large sums and sophisticated schemes.

Embezzlement of Public Money, Property or Records
Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or Whoever receives, conceals, or retains the same with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both

AIDING, ABETTING, ACCESSORY AND ACCOMPLICE CHARGES
Aiding, abetting, accomplice and accessory charges allege that you intentionally helped someone commit a crime, but didn’t actively commit it. That help can come before, during or after the crime. Examples:

Providing information and materials to someone you know will use them to commit a crime.
Acting as a lookout during a crime.
Driving someone to or from a crime.
Covering up for a loved one who you know committed a crime.

Time for this TOWN to Wake UP and quit putting your heads in the sands to all that is happening in our town.

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ACOG
P.O. Box 1266
Blairsville, Ga 30514

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Watcher

Talladega, AL

#126 Mar 2, 2013
UC Voter wrote:
<quoted text>
The President of the United States is doing it every day. Allowing your tax dollars to be stolen.
What's the difference?
Yes, administrations, whether local or national, do have the right to make those decisions. It is done all the time.
Like the person above stated. Move along. This is old news and has been over for a long time. No one needed to go to the DA for verification. Everyone in this town already knew about it and who the person is.
Anything to be a trouble-maker, huh, ACOG?
You would like it to be forgotten, right Lamer?
watching

Dahlonega, GA

#127 Mar 2, 2013
The M0untains V0ice wrote:
<quoted text>
I've read these Open Records Requests, and the replies do look rather evasive. I believe an investigation is warranted. If anyone knows anything they can contact me via the ACOG email, who can forward to me. Everything is confidential.
Let's start with the following:
Please tell me about Judy Spivey.
Please tell me about Larry Garrett.
Both of their names have come up in conversations.
I think you mean Judy Spiva. Maybe you should look at relationships.
Spiva => Garrett => Lamar
Spiva => Susie Phillips => Lamar

Chains of protection lead to the top. More dirt you have, the more you get protected. The road to Lamar will lead through Susie and Garrett. Pressure points.
watching

Dahlonega, GA

#128 Mar 2, 2013
Hints: You will find Spiva & Garrett were "pretty close". And Spiva / Susie might be found at the same family reunion - look at the tree.

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#129 Mar 2, 2013
Yep, personally I am unfamiliar with the details and time frame of this particular alleged crime. Various details have been brought to light from time to time. And yes, the embezzlement fiasco that we witnessed in the Tax Office appears to mirror the one at the Golf Course.

I guess the question in this case must be is there enough knowledge, information, and/or documentation to rise to the lever of being considered concrete or circumstantial evidence? While some may know, the answer is certainly unknown to me.

Nevertheless, particularly in light of what appeared to me, to be inappropriate efforts to allow reimbursement rather than prosecution in the case from the Tax Commissioners Office; that should lend credence to this one, in which the same mode of operation is alleged.

As we all know, after electing a different D A, and through the community applying extreme and constant pressure, a culprit in that case was finally indicted, prosecuted, and convicted. And even now controversy remains as to sentencing, and favoritism in internment institutional placement.

With that said, ACOG is indeed correct. Justice SHOULD be blind. Unfortunately, for those of us observing our past Governmental Administration, Law Enforcement, and Judiciary we know that has not been the case.

I disagree with those who maintain that certain crimes due to time or “circumstances” should just be ignored, or forgotten and we should just “move on.” Where is the “Justice in that?” What gives someone outside our criminal justice system the authority to determine who is charged or not, and goes before a grand jury for indictment or not, or goes before a judge or not?

In this case, depending upon any actual concrete or circumstantial evidence, and considerations given to statues of limitations, it appears to me, you may have two crimes.

The original offence, being a theft(embezzlement). And then since there are accusations that someone interfered with the evidence, discovery, or lawful investigation of the crime, the potential of an addition crime of complicity; which should be on a different time clock, depending upon the extent and time frame upon which the action of interference began and ended.

We do have a New Sheriff now. A sheriff is probably one of the most powerful (if not the most powerful) investigative arms within a County.

In my view, anyone with ANY actual knowledge and/or evidence of these crimes having been committed should take the matter to the Sheriff.

Give him the opportunity to respond. Ultimately, we will learn not only of where we have been, but also if we are making progress in where we wish to go with more responsive government.

But, then again these are only my views and opinions, I’m certain they will be challenged.
Fire them both

Dawsonville, GA

#130 Mar 2, 2013
I say if Lamar and Larry are doing there job, no onw would have to ask for the evidence they would have taken this to the D.A. themselves, it is obvious they are hiding it, so to keep their own job, either way they are not doing their job, if they knew and covered it up, they do not have the counties best interest at heart and should be fired, and if they did not know, they should have and should be fired for not being in top of thing, either way they are derelict in their duties.
truthful

Sylacauga, AL

#131 Mar 2, 2013
I think everyone knows who it was.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#132 Mar 2, 2013
Yep- wrote:
Yep, personally I am unfamiliar with the details and time frame of this particular alleged crime. Various details have been brought to light from time to time. And yes, the embezzlement fiasco that we witnessed in the Tax Office appears to mirror the one at the Golf Course.
I guess the question in this case must be is there enough knowledge, information, and/or documentation to rise to the lever of being considered concrete or circumstantial evidence? While some may know, the answer is certainly unknown to me.
Nevertheless, particularly in light of what appeared to me, to be inappropriate efforts to allow reimbursement rather than prosecution in the case from the Tax Commissioners Office; that should lend credence to this one, in which the same mode of operation is alleged.
As we all know, after electing a different D A, and through the community applying extreme and constant pressure, a culprit in that case was finally indicted, prosecuted, and convicted. And even now controversy remains as to sentencing, and favoritism in internment institutional placement.
With that said, ACOG is indeed correct. Justice SHOULD be blind. Unfortunately, for those of us observing our past Governmental Administration, Law Enforcement, and Judiciary we know that has not been the case.
I disagree with those who maintain that certain crimes due to time or “circumstances” should just be ignored, or forgotten and we should just “move on.” Where is the “Justice in that?” What gives someone outside our criminal justice system the authority to determine who is charged or not, and goes before a grand jury for indictment or not, or goes before a judge or not?
In this case, depending upon any actual concrete or circumstantial evidence, and considerations given to statues of limitations, it appears to me, you may have two crimes.
The original offence, being a theft(embezzlement). And then since there are accusations that someone interfered with the evidence, discovery, or lawful investigation of the crime, the potential of an addition crime of complicity; which should be on a different time clock, depending upon the extent and time frame upon which the action of interference began and ended.
We do have a New Sheriff now. A sheriff is probably one of the most powerful (if not the most powerful) investigative arms within a County.
In my view, anyone with ANY actual knowledge and/or evidence of these crimes having been committed should take the matter to the Sheriff.
Give him the opportunity to respond. Ultimately, we will learn not only of where we have been, but also if we are making progress in where we wish to go with more responsive government.
But, then again these are only my views and opinions, I’m certain they will be challenged.
Mr. Langley did admitted the theft did happen.

We asked for in a ORR "Copies of each and every document the county has on the money that was refunded by Judy Spiva for the money taken from the Golf Course while she was an employee of Union County; dates, amounts,payments, ect"

Langley said the money was paid back. By Lamar Paris not giving us the information we asked for in a Open Records Request shows he is still trying to cover it up.
Watch you step

Dahlonega, GA

#133 Mar 2, 2013
There is NO paper trail.
Money taken + money returned.
End of story.

There will be no prosecution because of the agreement.

Move on.

Nothing to see, here.

Watch who you write about because they will lawyer up in a fat minute. You are slandering family names, now.
NOT

Dawsonville, GA

#134 Mar 2, 2013
if it is true they are not being slandered, just the facts
NOT

Dawsonville, GA

#135 Mar 2, 2013
must have hit a little too close to home
watching

Dahlonega, GA

#136 Mar 2, 2013
Watch you step wrote:
There is NO paper trail.
Money taken + money returned.
End of story.
There will be no prosecution because of the agreement.
Move on.
Nothing to see, here.
Watch who you write about because they will lawyer up in a fat minute. You are slandering family names, now.
Was it returned? WAS IT RETURNED? Where did Judy Spiva get money to pay back money that was supposedly gambled away? District Attorney Langley on record now that the theft occurred. Did Larry Garrett cover it up? Why? Find the pressure point. Write the right Open Records Request and you will find what you are looking for. And lawsuits open doors that swing both ways. Who was the D.A. on duty at the time? It wasn't Langley.
NOT

Dawsonville, GA

#137 Mar 2, 2013
Watch you step wrote:
There is NO paper trail.
Money taken + money returned.
End of story.
There will be no prosecution because of the agreement.
Move on.
Nothing to see, here.
Watch who you write about because they will lawyer up in a fat minute. You are slandering family names, now.
what family is being slandered, and who are you to get on here and threaten, if you have a thief in your family, that is your problem not mine
BRKing

Dawsonville, GA

#138 Mar 2, 2013
Watch you step wrote:
There is NO paper trail.
Money taken + money returned.
End of story.
There will be no prosecution because of the agreement.
Move on.
Nothing to see, here.
Watch who you write about because they will lawyer up in a fat minute. You are slandering family names, now.
the money was also paid back by Joy Griggs, but she is still in prison, just the same, she is no better than Joy, if she did the crime she need to do the time, turn yourself in and take your punishment just like Joy did, Joy should sue the county for selective prosecution.

“Whine-It's all Bush's Fault”

Since: Feb 13

Blairsville

#139 Mar 2, 2013
Yep, two things immediately come to mind if indeed there is no paper trail as is claimed, and if there is/was someone who arranged an “agreement” that isn’t documented; then there certainly is serious problems in need of investigation.

We seem to revert back to an original crime of embezzlement; A crime against the State, and the people thereof.

Therefore, only an authorized agent of the State and the judicial system would be authorized to enter into such a so called “agreement” and that would have to be documented.

And in addition to that crime, if someone without authorization actually brokered any type of “deal” or “agreement” and concealed, destroyed, or by any other means obscured any “paper trail” of such action, then a crime of complicity is committed.

Once again, it appears to me, that certainly there is probable cause to believe crimes have been committed, which warrants further investigation by Law Enforcement as to the potential of arrests, bills of indictment, and prosecutions.

I understand the D A is up for re-election SOON.

Questions should continue, and answers demanded.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#140 Mar 2, 2013
UC Voter wrote:
<quoted text>
The President of the United States is doing it every day. Allowing your tax dollars to be stolen.
What's the difference?
Yes, administrations, whether local or national, do have the right to make those decisions. It is done all the time.
Like the person above stated. Move along. This is old news and has been over for a long time. No one needed to go to the DA for verification. Everyone in this town already knew about it and who the person is.
Anything to be a trouble-maker, huh, ACOG?
We will not move along. Four more years of Lamar could bankrupt our county.

If Lamar was a truthful, honest person for the last 11 years he would have been disclosing the county financial records to the Grand Jury. Instead most of the reports are missing and the others are just budget reports.

The law is plain and clear: O.C.G.A. 36-1-7

The return shall set forth a JUST and TRUE statement of the amount of money belonging to the county which was RECEIVED by them and the SOURCE from which the money was received, along with their EXPENDITURES, accompanied by a copy of the most recent financial statement or annual audit.

Lamar has passed off to the Grand Jury a BUDGET REPORT over the years. In July 2012 the Grand Jury accepted a 2011 Budget report. Now how do you pass off the years before budget report and NO ONE on the Grand Jury picked up on it.

When the returns provided for in subsection (a) of this code section have been made the grand jury shall ENDORSE it’s APPROVAL thereon and ATTACH the same to it’s general presentments to be filed in the office of the clerk of court of Superior Court.

IF the returns are found to be incorrect the grand jury through the foreman shall return them to the officer making the same, shall plainly and distinctly set worth in writing the grounds for it’s disapproval, and shall require the officer to appear before the grand jury and explain the errors.

We now know the Grand Jury HAS NOT been looking out for the counties well being.

It’s pretty scary to see in 2001 the county had a difference of over 2 1/5 million dollars OVER BUDGET. That’s the year the county submitted the budget VS Actual.

It’s now 12 years later. WHAT and WHERE is our money going. Only the loan shark running the county finances ws for sure.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#141 Mar 2, 2013
watching wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you mean Judy Spiva. Maybe you should look at relationships.
Spiva => Garrett => Lamar
Spiva => Susie Phillips => Lamar
Chains of protection lead to the top. More dirt you have, the more you get protected. The road to Lamar will lead through Susie and Garrett. Pressure points.
Do you have the Month and Year this happened?

To all the others that have sent us tips THANK YOU.

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ACOG
P.O. Box 1266
Blairsville, Ga 30514

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Funny

Opelika, AL

#142 Mar 2, 2013
Watch you step wrote:
There is NO paper trail.
Money taken + money returned.
End of story.
There will be no prosecution because of the agreement.
Move on.
Nothing to see, here.
Watch who you write about because they will lawyer up in a fat minute. You are slandering family names, now.
Thieves, family names and slandering. LMAO
Get over yourselves

Dahlonega, GA

#143 Mar 3, 2013
Y'all have something new to get all hot and bothered about. Lamar is here to stay for another four years and likely another four after that! The golf course is history. TOPIX misfits strike, again.
John

Dawsonville, GA

#144 Mar 3, 2013
Get over yourselves wrote:
Y'all have something new to get all hot and bothered about. Lamar is here to stay for another four years and likely another four after that! The golf course is history. TOPIX misfits strike, again.
I want to know who is in charge of watching our money. You had JW helping himself, Joy Griggs, Judy Spiva and who else. You only have one go to jail and if the county did not cry out that would have slipped by also.

So speak for yourself buster
Thanks acog for bringing this out in the open. We now know it was not just a rumor like they tried to pass it off as.

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