"Set Free Soldiers" backslide? 664/187 on Hells' Angels is downright unchristian

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By Tony Barboza and H.G. Reza, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers Long controversial for its aggressive evangelism aimed at those with a troubled past -- ex-convicts and drug addicts among them -- the ...

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Larry

Vancouver, WA

#1 Sep 14, 2008
I can't understand why a Christian motorcycle club would want to try and do harm to another motorcycle club. I know that the Hells Angels are not well received by the public but they did pave the way so that a lot of other MCs could form. For those who stabbed those two Hells Angels should read the book "Ridin', Living Free." There is a story of a bad man gone good. He was a biker who got caught in a bad scenario. He did prison time but got out and became a Christian biker who actually rides a Japanese motorcycle. It doesn't look like the Hells aGels discriminate agains those who believe in God. As a amn who is trying to work his way back to the Lord, I stand up for the Hells Angels. Love thy neighbor!
Larry

Vancouver, WA

#2 Sep 14, 2008
I can't understand why a Christian motorcycle club would want to try and do harm to another motorcycle club. I know that the Hells Angels are not well received by the public but they did pave the way so that a lot of other MCs could form. For those who stabbed those two Hells Angels should read the book "Ridin', Living Free." There is a story of a bad man gone good. He was a biker who got caught in a bad scenario. He did prison time but got out and became a Christian biker who actually rides a Japanese motorcycle. It doesn't look like the Hells Angels discriminate agains those who believe in God. As a man who is trying to work his way back to the Lord, I stand up for the Hells Angels. Love thy neighbor!
Sorry about the typo errors above.
Garnet

Thunder Bay, Canada

#3 Nov 4, 2008
I believe that the stabbing was not justified unless in self defence. Christ would not have warranted these actions. It demands in the Bible to love thy neighbor. It also says to not walk in the council of the un Godly. If a club is calling themselves Christian and acting in bad faith, this is destructive to the teachings of Christ. Hipocracy in the Church and the Body of Christ is the leading cause of losing souls today. I believe that even though the Hells Angels do what they do, and act as they do, that Jesus Christ loves them as much as he does any born again Christian today. Satan's lies only make it seem like they can not be saved or that they as a person do not deserve to be forgiven and have a chance to go to Heaven. Jesus made it easy for us today. Ask him into your heart, repent of your sins, and try your hardest not to do them again. Continue to pray every day, and ask for forgiveness for any sin you might commit, and your name will be written in the Lambs Book of Life. Heed this warning. Jesus is returning soon. And when he does, he is the only one who stands between you and Satan himself on Judgment day. If you are reading this than its not too late. Forgive these brothers. And remember do not hold Christ responsible for the actions of man. You will know a true representative when you see one. ATTENTION ALL HELL'S ANGELS---- JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR YOU TOO, AND HE DOESN'T wanna lose you to a lying dirty thief like satan. Satan is weak and has absolutely no power. Like an old tiger without any teeth. Jesus loves all of you no matter what you've done. Ask in his Name and you will recieve. JOHN 3:16. Its true. Roman's 3:23 and Roman's Chapters 7 and 8. Have all helped me in my life.
Texas

United States

#4 Nov 28, 2008
One Golden Rule:
Respect goes along way in life, so live by that, and you won't into trouble.
Texas

United States

#5 Nov 28, 2008
One Golden Rule:
Respect goes along in life, so live by that and you won't get into trouble.
Guaranteed to keep you from getting hurt.

Disrespect and you will get into trouble.
Keep your self safe!
Jimmy

United States

#6 Jan 13, 2010
The set free soldiers are not Christian. Just watch their videos and you will see that they are a outlaw motorcycle club hiding behind the cross for existence. The Hells Angels always wave a hand over Christian (real ones) motorcycle clubs. I am the national president of one and no that I have never had any problems with them. If you live by the sword you will die by it. Be real or real will find you out.
Mark

Adrian, MI

#7 Mar 28, 2010
Hey Jimmy what christian club are you the national president of? Before you start judging someone else do you know the whole story of what happened? I ride and I am a christian, I also have a concealed pistol permitt and if I ever had to use my gun to protect my family or myself I would according to the law. That is not living by the sword, that is called self defense weapon which I am legal to carry.
Jimmy wrote:
The set free soldiers are not Christian. Just watch their videos and you will see that they are a outlaw motorcycle club hiding behind the cross for existence. The Hells Angels always wave a hand over Christian (real ones) motorcycle clubs. I am the national president of one and no that I have never had any problems with them. If you live by the sword you will die by it. Be real or real will find you out.
Brother Dave

Surprise, AZ

#8 Jan 16, 2011
Jimmy... I doubt you're a leader of anything. IF you are, you can't be a very good one based upon the reasoning within your comment. In fact, I think you're probably not even a follower of Christ.
Jimmy wrote:
The set free soldiers are not Christian. Just watch their videos and you will see that they are a outlaw motorcycle club hiding behind the cross for existence. The Hells Angels always wave a hand over Christian (real ones) motorcycle clubs. I am the national president of one and no that I have never had any problems with them. If you live by the sword you will die by it. Be real or real will find you out.
GRIM

Enterprise, AL

#9 Nov 15, 2011
As usual so called CHRISTIANS are going to JUDGE. For 20 years these MEN have ministered to people you as a "CHRISTIAN" would not look in the eye much less try to reach out to, seems to me that someone mistook their KINDNESS for WEAKNESS.
Lone Wolf

Pefferlaw, Canada

#10 Feb 3, 2012
Jesus will save your soul...but that gun may save your life. The old west....many a preacher carried a gun..are times that different....David slew Goliath...had he a gun...probabley would have used it.....
Lone Wolf
rambo

Pompano Beach, FL

#11 Feb 27, 2012
Hey I am a christian biker and a supporter of a motorcycle ministry, I am taking courses in set free ministry and have talked to pastor Phil of set free soldiers and I am telling you and everyone else who judges another brother is committing a sin and is not acceptable in the eyes of the Lord. Set free's actions are their actions and if you weren't there as I was not there or you don't ride with them as I don't ride with them who is anyone to judge. This judgmental attitude by supposed Christians is exactly what is hurting our work to save souls. I am not going to get into the politics of any motorcycle club be it Christian,1%er or family club. That is that club's business not anyone else's. I say that the setfree soldiers M/C should be lefy alone on this incident and all should mind their business and save souls that is OUR primary job as Christians7154
Jeff

Orangevale, CA

#12 Feb 21, 2013
I know Phil and the original group Christ Sons. I would always be cautious of Phil Aguilar.
Rev Doc

Old Town, FL

#13 Oct 27, 2013
I came across this Blog looking for Christian MC's and I just have to comment.
As the National VP of Rugged Cross MC, and an ordained Minister, I must say, some people need to spend more time in their Bibles. Jesus calls for us to be Meek, not Weak. There is a big difference in the two. In the Bible most refer to judging others by Matthew 7:1-5 ESV “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother,‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. But this states we will be judged by how we judge others. In 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 ESV it says "For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside.“Purge the evil person from among you.” In Romans 16:17-18 ESV it says "I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. in Matthew 18:15-17 ESV it says “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. So in fact we are supposed to call out our Brothers in Christ when they backslide, or go the wrong way.
On self defense, First of all We'll begin by first looking at the Biblical obligation to preserve life. The Bible clearly teaches that we must preserve life; our own life and the lives of others. We have an obligation to preserve the body and life of other people. Psalm 82:4 even cites an obligation to protect those who are in danger: Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. Consider also Proverbs 24:11, which indicates we have a duty to preserve the lives of those who are harming themselves: Proverbs 24:11 Deliver those who are drawn toward death, And hold back those stumbling to the slaughter.
Ezekiel 33 is a well-known passage:'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.'
If you know danger is coming to others, and you deliberately fail to warn the others of the danger, you are guilty of harming the victims. Not to say that you can make people heed your warning. The surrounding verses also say that if the people refuse to heed the warning of the watchmen, the watchman is not guilty if they are harmed.
We also see principles in Mosaic law teaching that if we fail to guard the lives of others, we are guilty. In Deuteronomy 22:8, if someone falls from your roof, and you failed to install a safety fence around the edge, you would be held liable for the death of that person. Likewise, in Exodus 21:29-31, if a man has an ox which is prone to harm people, the owner is held liable if he fails to confine it and the ox harms or kills others.
The principle could hardly be stated more forcefully: you must protect your life and the lives of others.
I hope this clears up Biblical Self defense and Judgement. I can be reached at Cherokawa@aol.com fir further discussion. Put SFS Blog in the subject line. Be Blessed and True
jazpex

United States

#14 Mar 22, 2014
set frees rehab is full of homosexuality now. Bunch of gay things going on i got kicked out cuz i took a stand and was ignored by superiors and heads of the ranch . Shady homo activity is the norm stay far away from this "ministry"

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