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Morales submits incomplete campaign finance report for council ...

There are 23 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Apr 5, 2010, titled Morales submits incomplete campaign finance report for council .... In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

City Council challenger Alex Morales filed an incomplete campaign finance report that didn't include any individual contributions or details on expenditures.

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Who is Henderson

Whittier, CA

#1 Apr 5, 2010
Its sad they are willing to serve themselves as oppose the entire community of Whittier.

I am ashamed of Mary Sullens. THis made no sense, as much as we dislike Nordbak she goes right ahead and endorses him.

This horrible. Never would have thought Whittier would turn into an elitist community. This is proof. I have been around the Hendersons and Sullens when speaking of Nordbak and it is not positive.

Sullens, Hendersons and Nordbaks are terrible.

Next thing you know Nordbak will be given an award by the Conservancy.
ole Bob

Whittier, CA

#2 Apr 6, 2010
I would rather elect someone with incomplete paperwork as opposed to Nordbak who encourages donors to give just under the limit for reporting so he can conceal for whom he carries the water.

Nordbak is offensive to the traditional notions of fair play and American justice. Throw him out at the plate.
Former Whittier resident

Lake Elsinore, CA

#3 Apr 6, 2010
I'm disappointed in Morales for submitting incomplete paperwork.

I truly think it's time for new leadership in Whittier, and Morales blew a golden opportunity.
Experience

La Habra, CA

#4 Apr 6, 2010
A challenger with the experience, qualifications and know how did not show up for this elections.
Henderson and Nordbak are experienced and real good councilman. You'll have a hard time finding someone as good as these two.
After over 30 years combined on the council there has never been a corruption charge against either of these two and there never will. These are good men and great representatives of our city.
Our council as a whole is a great group of caring people who despite their differences are recently working very well together through some difficult times and I believe Whittier will get better and greater if we leave them in place as a group for a few years more.
Nordbak

Whittier, CA

#5 Apr 6, 2010
is pro business but has had a business in Santa Fe Springs his entire Political career until his business fell on hard times and now he's running it out of his home.(Which may be illegal because of the chemicals in his business).

Is the the Nordbak you know?
Bullseye

Covina, CA

#7 Apr 6, 2010
Nordbak wrote:
is pro business but has had a business in Santa Fe Springs his entire Political career until his business fell on hard times and now he's running it out of his home.(Which may be illegal because of the chemicals in his business).
Is the the Nordbak you know?
You guys try to spin everything. There are no chemicals in his business you moron. And it's his wife's business. Read the endorsement by the Daily News one more time. One of the best councilman around.
I know him to be a very caring man, will answer his cell phone at any time for a resident of the city, will do his very best to help those in need and ask nothing in return, has so many accomplishments for the betterment of our city and I do no business at all with Nordbak Promotional Products.
You people can't possibly want Hawthorne or Morales and if you do it's obviously personal with you and Greg.These 2 challengers are no where near ready and if their horrible speaking and lack of knowledge they've shown so far at all the debates hasn't convinced you, their lack of detail and poor running of their campaigns should.
They can't answer a direct question because they don't have the answers. At least Morales will sometimes admit he doesn't know, but Hawthorne goes of subject and tells of his passion and wanting to Champion certain ideas with no know how of what's going on or how to do it.
Bullseye

Covina, CA

#8 Apr 6, 2010
Who is Henderson wrote:
Its sad they are willing to serve themselves as oppose the entire community of Whittier.
I am ashamed of Mary Sullens. THis made no sense, as much as we dislike Nordbak she goes right ahead and endorses him.
This horrible. Never would have thought Whittier would turn into an elitist community. This is proof. I have been around the Hendersons and Sullens when speaking of Nordbak and it is not positive.
Sullens, Hendersons and Nordbaks are terrible.
Next thing you know Nordbak will be given an award by the Conservancy.
You must be another save the hills fanatic.

Your hills will not be harmed. Drilling has gone on up there for years. Money will be spread out to parks and open space, so your hills will benefit from the oil revenue.
Am I to assume you walk or ride a bike and don't drive a car ?

Hypocrite.
You want gas and oil for your car and other products manufactured from petroleum as long as it comes from somebody else's community and not yours.
It can be done safely and if the EIR says it can't then it won't happen.
As representatives of the people of Whittier all council members need to be open minded enough to look into the possible revenue this could provide to better the City of Whittier. I for one will never vote for someone so close minded to not even consider it.

“Off The Cliff They Go.”

Since: Dec 09

Duarte, CA

#9 Apr 6, 2010
Alex Morales is not Pro-Business
Bullseye

Covina, CA

#10 Apr 6, 2010
NPRIP wrote:
Alex Morales is not Pro-Business
and Hawthorne knows nothing about business.
ole Bob

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Apr 6, 2010
Bullseye wrote:
<quoted text>
...And it's his wife's business..
California is a community property state.

Does anyone believe that little bit of fiction? It belongs to the wife so no charge of corruption can be brought against him Call him on that cell phone with an order, and I bet he takes it.

I would be amazed if the business is not using chemicals that are not labeled for sale to the public, and should not be used except in an industrial setting.

This Nordbak lacks the intelligence to do the job he has held for too long. While not a moron as you like to toss around, he did struggle to finish high school.

Vote anyone but Nordbak, there are several candidates to select from.
Nordbaks Neighbor

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Apr 6, 2010
I live near him. Vote Nordbak out of there. His sign is on my yard because I know him and he never asked me to put it up. Just woke up one morning and it was there (2 of them).

This was wrong
whittier res

La Habra, CA

#14 Apr 7, 2010
Nordbaks Neighbor wrote:
I live near him. Vote Nordbak out of there. His sign is on my yard because I know him and he never asked me to put it up. Just woke up one morning and it was there (2 of them).
This was wrong
You are Hawthorne or a Hawthorne friend trying to use fake names again. You have used the neighbor tag one too many times. Nice try but you're busted.
Merit less

La Habra, CA

#15 Apr 7, 2010
ole Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
California is a community property state.
Does anyone believe that little bit of fiction? It belongs to the wife so no charge of corruption can be brought against him Call him on that cell phone with an order, and I bet he takes it.
I would be amazed if the business is not using chemicals that are not labeled for sale to the public, and should not be used except in an industrial setting.
This Nordbak lacks the intelligence to do the job he has held for too long. While not a moron as you like to toss around, he did struggle to finish high school.
Vote anyone but Nordbak, there are several candidates to select from.
Look up all the succesfull business men and leaders who also struggled in school.
You'd be surprised.

The only ones lacking in intelligence and especially common sense are the 2 unqualified challengers running against him.

And I have been in their house and there are no chemicals of any kind so wrong again Ole bob. What BS you gonna try next.

Answer me this Ole Bob and keep in mind that I am a hispanic.
Why does an unqualified hispanic run every election thinking he can win just because he has a hispanic name? are they assuming we are that stupid to elect just by race ?
I would like a hispanic in city council, but I will not vote for one until one is qualified.
Merit less

La Habra, CA

#16 Apr 7, 2010
ole Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
California is a community property state.
Does anyone believe that little bit of fiction? It belongs to the wife so no charge of corruption can be brought against him Call him on that cell phone with an order, and I bet he takes it.
I would be amazed if the business is not using chemicals that are not labeled for sale to the public, and should not be used except in an industrial setting.
This Nordbak lacks the intelligence to do the job he has held for too long. While not a moron as you like to toss around, he did struggle to finish high school.
Vote anyone but Nordbak, there are several candidates to select from.
There are 2 to choose from and Hawthorne and Morales couldn't run a little taco shack much less a city.
somethings up

La Habra, CA

#17 Apr 7, 2010
NPRIP wrote:
Alex Morales is not Pro-Business
Something shady in his campaign finances. He's either incompetant or hiding something.
If some of you people want change, you better get some qualified challengers next time.
I can see Hawthorne and Morales cheating the system and pulling some Acorn actions to try to get some more votes.
I hope there is some agency keeping an eye on these guys before the election next week.
Zach

United States

#18 Apr 7, 2010
Nords may have had trouble with regular school but has used Whittier as his finishing school.

Nords entered politics as a trophy shop owner and has used his office to manipulate business interests for his personal gain. He now has a management position with a waste company.

Nords behavior is ridiculous.
Merit less wrote:
<quoted text>
Look up all the succesfull business men and leaders who also struggled in school.
You'd be surprised.
The only ones lacking in intelligence and especially common sense are the 2 unqualified challengers ...
somethings up

La Habra, CA

#19 Apr 7, 2010
Zach wrote:
Nords may have had trouble with regular school but has used Whittier as his finishing school.
Nords entered politics as a trophy shop owner and has used his office to manipulate business interests for his personal gain. He now has a management position with a waste company.
Nords behavior is ridiculous.
<quoted text>
He was also a general contractor.

Zach, I'm sorry you've jumped on the Ole Bob bashing spree. This city is far better off than most around us and is also a great place to live. At least some credit must go to Nordbak.

I'm sure you've been to a couple of debates and I can't believe you would prefer Morales or Hawthorne over a guy that is so well respected by many including Supervisor Knabe, the 27 city COG,
PIH, the Chamber of Commerce and many of us residence that he has taken the time to help out with numerous issues.

He is also incredibly more knowledgable than any candidate on all issues at the forums and Henderson as well. Throw in common sense and it should be a slam dunk come election day for Nordbak.
Zach

United States

#21 Apr 7, 2010
Sorry Something. Nords WAS a general contractor , third generation in a family business. Nords is living off the public good.

The council has difficulty in appointing anyone to our commissions and eliminated the Design Review Board altogether. How does anyone (Morales and Fred) gain public experience? Council is suffocating.

The council is responsible for establishing policy and the functioning of our city staff. The council is a detriment to our city, do you feel that our city is "business friendly"?

Why not ask residents and developers how they like our city? The developers of Whittwood couldn't wait to run from our city. I know this, consultants love our city., staff seems to need outside help more frequently than not. Our council needs change.
somethings up wrote:
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He was also a general contractor.
Zach, I'm sorry you've jumped on the Ole Bob bashing spree. This city is far better off than most around us and is also a great place to live. At least some credit must go to Nordbak.
I'm sure you've been to a couple of debates and I can't believe you would prefer Morales or Hawthorne over a guy that is so well respected by many including Supervisor Knabe, the 27 city COG,
PIH, the Chamber of Commerce and many of us residence that he has taken the time to help out with numerous issues.
He is also incredibly more knowledgable than any candidate on all issues at the forums and Henderson as well. Throw in common sense and it should be a slam dunk come election day for Nordbak.
somethings up

La Habra, CA

#22 Apr 7, 2010
Zach wrote:
Sorry Something. Nords WAS a general contractor , third generation in a family business. Nords is living off the public good.
The council has difficulty in appointing anyone to our commissions and eliminated the Design Review Board altogether. How does anyone (Morales and Fred) gain public experience? Council is suffocating.
The council is responsible for establishing policy and the functioning of our city staff. The council is a detriment to our city, do you feel that our city is "business friendly"?
Why not ask residents and developers how they like our city? The developers of Whittwood couldn't wait to run from our city. I know this, consultants love our city., staff seems to need outside help more frequently than not. Our council needs change.
<quoted text>
Your question was how does one gain public experience ?
I don't know about experience. Maybe joining or trying to get on some board but how about knowledge ? These 2 challenger should have been preparing for this 2 years ago by attending city council meetings, doing research on codes and procedures, meeting agendas and minutes, archived council meetings at the library etc. Hawthorne and Morales have not done their homework, due diligence, research and time necessary to run for a city council seat.
Zach, I've read a lot of your posts and have been impressed with your knowledge and insight on the workings of city government. You found a way to educate yourself and others who read these posts. All I'm saying is these 2 challengers should have done the same. It's painfull to listen to these guys and their lack of knowledge. On top of lacking the know how, they are just bad public speakers.
Nordbak and Henderson are clearly the most qualified to handle these difficult times and if you want change I suggest waiting for the next election when there might possibly be 1,2 or even 3 open uncontested seats available.But to have 1 or both of these unqualified guys in a recession is dangerous.
And I am a business owner. Built it from scratch and not only had no problem with build out, I got plenty of support from city officials. Greg Nordbak and Joe Vinitieri are the only council members who frequent my business and lots of others in Whittier. I see and hear of these two always shopping and supporting local small business in Whittier all the time and I will always support them. I have got to know Joe and Greg personally and am proud and honored to call them friends. They have completely different styles and personalities, but both are caring, honest, genuine representatives of our city and we are lucky to have them both.
Zach

La Habra, CA

#23 Apr 8, 2010
Yes, painful. I expected Morales to be a bit more savvy, and Fred? Well he just needs more time and opportunity. His energy would be best used on a Commission or time served on school board or service club.

Nords is especially fond of COG - there's business opportunity to exploit. I don't think the COG has been especially beneficial to our city. In concept COG sounds great end I'm sure they host wonderful conventions and seminars for our city council.

Our city has developed a structure that is corporate ; and not community/ resident friendly. Economic Development/ Community Development don't mesh with the needs of residents. Housing on the boulevard? Uptown revival without a fix for lower uptown? Nelles redevelopment without entitlements guaranteed?

Council change is necessary.
somethings up wrote:
<It's painfull to listen to these guys and their lack of knowledge. On top of lacking the know how, they are just bad public speakers.
Nordbak and Henderson are clearly the most qualified to handle these difficult times and if you want change I suggest waiting for the next election when there might possibly be 1,2 or even 3 open uncontested seats available.

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