Hardin residents push for vote on expanding alcohol sales

Feb 11, 2011 Full story: WAVE-TV Louisville 39

Alcohol -- and the issues surrounding it -- have divided a county. Hardin residents have debating the issue for years.

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guilty

Vine Grove, KY

#21 Sep 28, 2012
too late wrote:
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Does not matter what the paper reports. They have their liquor in spite of any bad things surrounding it.
Don't expect them to get on here and say yeah, we read that. They didn't care before the vote and they certainly won't give a flip now.
Chef

Vine Grove, KY

#22 Oct 2, 2012
Are DUI's up because of the availability of liquor in the three cities, or are there other factors at work here too? Article in the paper mentions better training by the police. Also, more of them because of revenue generated by alcohol sales. Plus larger population, soldiers home from deployment, drug related DUI's and what I believe are stepped up efforts to catch folks driving under the influence. Yes, you can buy a six-pack here now. Just like the rest of the country.

...and, all the good things surrounding it!
believe a caracker

Campbellsville, KY

#23 Oct 2, 2012
thought of you wrote:
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Bob, you sound so responsible that I am sure you don't get DUI's. The report today says DUI's are up 27%. Now for the safety of all of us on the road, I am glad (or did we) not have any tragic deaths as a result. People are getting rich; it's readily available. Wasn't that the priority? I have seen people with those huge packages of beer ( and not to judge), but I wonder how they afford it. Also, as long as we don't know 'the rest of the story' about domestic issues because those people get drunk, everyone should be very content AND it's LEGAL. Consequences are irrelevant.
i cant find a report saying "dui's up 27%" maybe you could point me in the right direction? i doubt it.
domino effect

Vine Grove, KY

#24 Oct 2, 2012
Chef wrote:
Are DUI's up because of the availability of liquor in the three cities, or are there other factors at work here too? Article in the paper mentions better training by the police. Also, more of them because of revenue generated by alcohol sales. Plus larger population, soldiers home from deployment, drug related DUI's and what I believe are stepped up efforts to catch folks driving under the influence. Yes, you can buy a six-pack here now. Just like the rest of the country.
...and, all the good things surrounding it!
What professionals do -- go get further training. Must know guidelines or we have seen on TV where that can lead if someone's rights are violated. Increased number in police as a result of the problems. Catch those DUI's before they hurt themselves or someone else. A problem with that one? Good things happen(which means ignoring the bad things)?
believe a caracker

Campbellsville, KY

#25 Oct 2, 2012
too late wrote:
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Does not matter what the paper reports. They have their liquor in spite of any bad things surrounding it.
dui's up 27 percent in hardin county is simply not true!
believe a cracker

Campbellsville, KY

#26 Oct 2, 2012
domino effect wrote:
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What professionals do -- go get further training. Must know guidelines or we have seen on TV where that can lead if someone's rights are violated. Increased number in police as a result of the problems. Catch those DUI's before they hurt themselves or someone else. A problem with that one? Good things happen(which means ignoring the bad things)?
dui's are not up 27% in hardin county.
just sayin

Burbank, IL

#27 Oct 2, 2012
If ya Wana drink go to Murray Marshall co dont understand I take my money to other countries to drink
suggestion

Vine Grove, KY

#28 Oct 2, 2012
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>dui's are not up 27% in hardin county.
Did you check article in Sunday's News Enterprise. I believe I remember reading that figure in the paper.
believe a cracker

Campbellsville, KY

#29 Oct 2, 2012
suggestion wrote:
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Did you check article in Sunday's News Enterprise. I believe I remember reading that figure in the paper.
thanks,you proved half of my point. the person i responded to posted on sept, 27. sundays paper came out on sept, 30. thanks
believe a cracker

Campbellsville, KY

#30 Oct 2, 2012
suggestion wrote:
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Did you check article in Sunday's News Enterprise. I believe I remember reading that figure in the paper.
post the link
look again

Vine Grove, KY

#31 Oct 2, 2012
believe a cracker wrote:
<quoted text>thanks,you proved half of my point. the person i responded to posted on sept, 27. sundays paper came out on sept, 30. thanks
I remember that Jenny Oldham was quoted for the source. I didn't look at the post. I do know she made a report at some point in time and it was in the paper. I read it also. I am not trying to prove anything myself. I am just saying it was in there.
believe a cracker

Campbellsville, KY

#32 Oct 2, 2012
look again wrote:
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I remember that Jenny Oldham was quoted for the source. I didn't look at the post. I do know she made a report at some point in time and it was in the paper. I read it also. I am not trying to prove anything myself. I am just saying it was in there.
i do not deny that it exist,but i want to read the stats. that is a very high increase,and i cant find the proof. im thinking it is state wide.
Bob

Vine Grove, KY

#33 Oct 3, 2012
domino effect wrote:
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What professionals do -- go get further training. Must know guidelines or we have seen on TV where that can lead if someone's rights are violated. Increased number in police as a result of the problems. Catch those DUI's before they hurt themselves or someone else. A problem with that one? Good things happen(which means ignoring the bad things)?
Increase in police not as a result of "problems", but because that's one of the few things the cities can do with the taxes collected on alcohol. And what's the answer, prohibition? We all know how THAT worked out. The alcohol was always here, and it always will be. Drinking and driving has more to do with stupidity than close availability. Hiding the booze in the next county never stopped anyone.
Big City Law

New York, NY

#35 Oct 4, 2012
We monitor this Post for Class Action Lawsuit

Any update on malfeasance?
Chef

Vine Grove, KY

#36 Oct 15, 2012
I got a petition to fill out from folks trying to get the vote County-Wide. What's up with that? Does anybody know about this?
in the know

Nashville, TN

#37 Oct 15, 2012
Signatures were turned in last week. Their will be a county wide wet/dry vote in hardin county in december or january.

It will remove 70/30 food to alcohol sale restriction in etown, remove 100 seat minimum requirement to serve alcohol and it will remove 5% city tax on alcohol in etown.
Chef

Vine Grove, KY

#38 Oct 24, 2012
Enough petitions for city vote! County had plenty of signautres, apparently, but they weren't enough from registered voters. That's a shame.

Meanwhile, nobody seems to care. In fact, most folks won't even notice if it changes here. Maybe a few smaller restaurants, hopefully downtown. Some say bars, but I don't thik this market would support a place where all you could get is alcohol. Seriously. There will only be limited numbers of licenses available anyway.

Any opinions out there? I, for one, would hope some of the decrepid old buildings on, and near, the square might become places like they've got in Bardstown.
in the know

Florence, KY

#39 Oct 24, 2012
It would be nice for something besides chains in etown. I know there are some people looking into a brewpub restaurant downtown. the city would need to put their money where their mouths are with low interest loans or forgivable grants. Renovating old buildings is more expensive than building new.
Chef

Vine Grove, KY

#40 Oct 25, 2012
in the know wrote:
It would be nice for something besides chains in etown. I know there are some people looking into a brewpub restaurant downtown. the city would need to put their money where their mouths are with low interest loans or forgivable grants. Renovating old buildings is more expensive than building new.
Amen to that. How great would it be to have something like a "Wick's Pizza" or "Jack Fry's" type restaurant downtown? Then there would be a reason to go there for something other than renewing your driver's license.

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