You think the insurance and health system is in bad shape now?

Let the government take over, they'll really run it into the ground.

well if you think it is bad just waite until it's free

Hey at least the suicide option will be promoted heavily. That'll save the gov't tons of money. More for ACORN. Our best hope in toppling the Obama regime is to get BHO's college records opened so we can cee if he is a foreigner & the original BC would still be of some value. We might give him a pass on the namechange & Pakistan visit.

Soylent Green!

I have read where he applide for a fogin student loan and he could put a stop to the birthers if he would only show hi B.C.,HIS HEALTHCARE plain will coast all working mem/women across this country 1 trillion over the next 10 years and put employer base inc.com pany out of buussnes, there is aome problems with our curent healthcare but we do not need congress telling us what trement we need or when we can get trement

So as it appears to have gone is that the birthers got punked by a set-up Kenyan-BC that no sooner was it presented to the public than some guy in Australia just happened to be ready to claim it was fake. Oh well, that still doesn't change where BHO was actually born and we still haven't seen the original BC which was almost for sure once on file in Hawaii. Fact probably is that after Barry Soetoro was adopted in Indonesia he never legally changed his name or citizenship to American. He did manage to get a passport to Pakistan in 1981 probably as an Indonesian. BHO attended three expensive colleges also as an Indonesian(or some other Foreign Student status). The Kenyan birth Grandma Obama claims to have witnessed is just a red-herring to throw us off the scent of the Indonesian citizenship. Let's see the college records & that original BC would still be nice to look at. We haven't made much progress but don't lose heart. Pray the truth is revealed soon before anymore damage is done.

Look at factcheck. It answers all your questions in depth.(or other unbiased fact check sites)

To sum

The original is on file in Hawaii. The State of Hawaii has confirmed its authenticity. He HAS released the copy that the State of Hawaii issued to him.

Americans were allowed to travel to Pakistan. You can read the NY Times travel article from that time if you want to read about it. Also, the state dept has verfied travel was allowed.

If Obama produced his college records, it woujldn't prove anything one way or the other.

No matter what evidence is presented to the birthers, they ignore it.

BHO was never a natural-born U.S. citizen for even a minute. He was at best born with dual-citizenship to an underage mother who could not confer natural-born status under law at the time and a Kenyan-Brit father. Then at about five his Indonesian father adopted him, changed his name to Soetoro, etc. BHO went to Pakistan as a citizen of somewhere? Where? He attended college as a citizen of somewhere. Where? To the anti-birthers I ask this simple question: At what point did BHO(Soetoro) become an American (who doesn't place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem)? I believe more than ever BHO is hiding at least one major flaw in his citizenship status.

You go Diehard Birther! During his first 5yr as an Indonesian BHO learned his name was Barry Soetoro and learned to spell & write it that way. He retained the first name of Barry thru High School but I wonder which last name was on his HS diploma. Also did Lolo Soetoro continue to pay support for his adopted son? These factors would be of some significance in determining when BHO changed his name. I am guessing it wasn't until after the Pakistan trip and well into college where he was probably attending as an Indonesian. All we still have is a questionable Hawaiian COLB which we had a year ago. No progress for either side of the citizenship question has really been made.

Keep digging guys. Your getting closer than ever.

It doesn't matter if he was a chicken farmer in Khazakstan. The state of Hawaii has confirmed they have his 'real' birth cert on file and yes, the COLB you guys are so worried about is what is issued by the state when requested and yes, he was born there. Get over it.

I found proof that a birther was born in Kenya. An anonymous source sent me a copy of a legitmate Kenyan birth certificate.

http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/7f...

Let's just go ahead & suppose BHO was indeed born in HI. He would have started out in life w/dual-citizenship before being adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia where he stayed until age ten & was then sent to grandparents in HI. At what point did he choose to be an American? Before the Pakistan trip? After he started college as a 'foreign student'? He has never been natural-born for a second & probably has the name Barry Soetoro on his HS diploma. Like GunnyRed I too say "NULLIFY the USURPER!"

At what point did he choose to be an American?

I would say he chose to be an American pretty much when we all choose to be an American. When he was born in Hawaii.

And do a favor for your fellow birthers. Pass the word to the 12% of Republicans who think otherwise, that Hawaii is in fact one of the 50 states.

I think you are way off base Area Man & the good doctor makes a valid point concerning the citizenship (or lack thereof) of the Usurper who learned to write his name Barry Soetoro in Arabic & probably did attend HS & college as Barry Soetoro. Wish you could prove us wrong.

I heard that you are probably involved in the conspiracy of the murder of John Lennon. I wish you could prove me wrong.

Rather than wasting time going over the various pieces of 'evidence', and I feel generous calling it 'evidence', why don't you go here and check them out one by one.

http://factcheck.org/archives/search-results/...

just like the saying is going

OBAMA LIES AND GRANNY DIES...

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America Obama

GunnyRed we are having a mini-townhall mtg on UH & the Usurper at the bar that serves steak sandwiches downtown this Tues @7pm. I'd like to meet you & buy you a beer or 2. All patriots are invited. No news crews allowed. See ya'

I'm on duty that night but my old lady & her (single) teacher-friend are coming. I brought the flyer home from the department for her. They are writing an antiObama piece for the Bulletin. Even if he just resigns I'll be fine with that. Looks like no city guys will be there. Maybe one county jailer.

Clearly the usurper was an Indonesian & still is. And he never changed his name legally after graduating from high school & even started college as barry Soetoro. I look forward to this all blowing up in his face. Its just too bad so many liberals are in on it too.